SHOOTING IN FORT HOOD, Texas

[WHAMPOM]

Just heard a report they are locking down the nearby college. Too soon to find an online source, maybe some one in Texas can come up with a local report?

 

[boomerang]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/1/fbi-alert-former-army-recruit-planning-fort-hood-i/

Federal agents are actively seeking out a former Army recruit they believe is plotting a “Fort Hood-inspired jihad against U.S. soldiers,” they said.
The FBI sent out an alert for a man they identified as Booker, based on statements his friends made that he was intending “to commit jihad,” Fox News reported. The suspect also goes by Muhammad Abdullah Hassan.

He was recruited in February into the U.S. Army in Kansas City, Mo., and was supposed to have reported for duty at basic training on April 7, agents said. But after authorities learned of his alleged jihad, they discharged him, Fox News reported. Now both the FBI and the 902nd Military Intelligence Group at Fort Leavenworth are seeking his location.

Reports as of now are saying the guy who is the focus of the above story is not involved.

 

[nextJin]

We have already been brief here in Korea. 2 shooters with iirc 1 dead and multiple wounded. It might be old now as that was an hour ago. I'd imagine it will climb.

My HAAP is Fort Hood after this tour too.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Shooter is dead...unknown if it is self inflicted or if he was shot by law enforcement.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/fo...rt-hood-many-eight-wounded-gunman-dead-n70276

 

[Kadarin]

Shall we take bets on whether it was a Muslim (or Muslims) who did it?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Shall we take bets on whether it was a Muslim (or Muslims) who did it?

Wouldn't matter, at least not to me.

 

[allisolm]

Shall we take bets on whether it was a Muslim (or Muslims) who did it?

According to the news sites, his name is Ivan Lopez and "The initial report is the incident started as a soldier-on-soldier attack, law enforcement sources told CNN. The initial assessment is the incident is not terror-related, the sources said."

 

[Oldgamer]

They are saying the soldier enlisted who did the shooting is Ivan Lopez and there was a serious argument at the motor pool that erupted into gun fire. So it looks like this is not any terroristic thing.

haha posted at the same time as Allisolm

 

[MomentsofSanity]

They are also now saying multiple fatalities and injuries but haven't clarified if multiple fatalities is the shooter plus one or more.

 

[himkhan]

Shall we take bets on whether it was a Muslim (or Muslims) who did it?

:whiste:

 

[halik]

Shall we take bets on whether it was a Muslim (or Muslims) who did it?

I'll take the over on that. Not too many Amishs running around jeehading shit.

 

[shortylickens]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595654/Obama-We-bottom-Ford-Hood-shooting.html

How come obama comments on stuff like this?

 

[dmcowen674]

My Nephew and his wife are stationed there and this happened very close to where he was. He was stuck on location for 5 hrs and just got home.

He said the shooter killed himself.

This was too close. I knew they transferred from here in Indiana but didn't realize they went to Ft Hood.

 

[Stewox]

We might be looking at another false flag incident here, keep your eyes peeled.

 

[BoomerD]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595654/Obama-We-bottom-Ford-Hood-shooting.html

How come obama comments on stuff like this?

Because he's the President and Commander-in-Chief?

Would you feel better about yourself if he ignored it so you could bitch about "Why didn't O'Bummer even comment about the Fort Hood shooting?"

 

[Mai72]

Don't worry. By tomorrow it will be all forgotten.

Sad.

 

[Stewox]

My Nephew and his wife are stationed there and this happened very close to where he was. He was stuck on location for 5 hrs and just got home.

He said the shooter killed himself.

This was too close. I knew they transferred from here in Indiana but didn't realize they went to Ft Hood.

Can he provide more details and what was happening before the event, anything, even if doesn't seem important, very appreciated, thanks.

 

[brycejones]

We might be looking at another false flag incident here, keep your eyes peeled.

I can't wait for you to post the infowars article that says as much.

So what is your reasoning behind it possibly being "another" false flag incident?

 

[Kadarin]

Well, it definitely appears I would have been wrong about the Muslim jihadist attack.

 

[Kaido]

4 dead, including shooter:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/02/us/fort-hood-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

And here's the keyword, every time:

The suspect, a soldier who had served in Iraq, "had behavioral health and mental health" issues, Milley told reporters late Wednesday.

What our country needs is a better mental healthcare system. I have a lot of friends who have family members with serious mental health issues & often don't have many places to turn for the kind of help they need.

Regarding gun ownership, I'm not for or against it. I don't personally have one, but I have a lot of friends who do & who carry and it doesn't bother me. Although CNN article comments are barely a step above Youtube's garbage, there was one that was well-written:

In a nation of 316,975,000 people, of which 148,978,250 are gun owners, this kind of event, though terrible and unfortunate, is the very definition of ultra rare.

The fact of the matter is, 99.78% (see below) of gun owners are innocent law abiding citizens, and to punish, or discriminate against them based on the actions of others, is not only illogical, it is tyrannical. An extremely tiny fraction of the 0.22% are committing mass murder with guns.

*******************************************************
2011 crime statistics from FBI website:
______________

751,023 assaults -- 159,217 with guns
353,874 robberies -- 146,139 with guns
83,045 rapes -- 17,605 with guns
14,442 homicides -- 9633 with guns
______________

332,594 violent crimes committed with guns
316,975,000 US citzens
47% of US citizens own firearms (recent Gallup poll)
148,978,250 armed citizens

(148,978,250) - (332,594) = 148,645,656

99.7767% -- of US gun owners are innocent, law abiding citizens.

Assuming that number is correct, 99.7% of gun owners do not have a violent crime problem. Even if we banned guns, just look what happened in China - 28 dead in a freaking KNIFE attack:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/02/world/asia/china-railway-attack/index.html

I also don't think the issue is about security, either. You can have the best security in the world and a shooter could still shoot the guards at the entrance. I think this just further highlights our nation's need to get more serious about quality mental healthcare.

Also, my condolences to the families who lost loves ones in this tragic incident. I hate hearing about this stuff. I had a friend who's friend worked at the Hartford Distributors place where the shootings happened a few years ago - they gave a speech locally & it was scary hearing a first-hand account of someone just going crazy & shooting the place up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Distributors_shooting

I also had a friend who was in Columbine & witnessed some pretty bad stuff there. Guns can be scary stuff. I do think it makes it violence easier, but it doesn't really solve the problem that the media is always glamorizing.

 

[shortylickens]

Because he's the President and Commander-in-Chief?

Would you feel better about yourself if he ignored it so you could bitch about "Why didn't O'Bummer even comment about the Fort Hood shooting?"

Black people shoot each other all the time every day in America. he's also president.
He sure jumped on that white cop/black resident situation his first week in office pretty god damn fast.


And as for "Commander In Chief" why did he never comment on all the times some marine raped a little afghani girl or some bullshit like that?

ASSHOLE!

 

[Generator]

Looks like the base never bothered to replace Hasan. I really can't conceive what the biggest fort in the country means, supposedly its like some sort of city. With that being the case you just have to wonder how many lunatics are behind those walls. I'm listening to some retired military guy they bring in for stuff like this. Seems like their is some downsizing coming and with it the opportunity to drop off these defective, used up people on society. Typical military thinking. Why bother helping people when you can just throw in the gutter?

 

[Ruptga]

Black people shoot each other all the time every day in America. he's also president.
He sure jumped on that white cop/black resident situation his first week in office pretty god damn fast.


And as for "Commander In Chief" why did he never comment on all the times some marine raped a little afghani girl or some bullshit like that?

ASSHOLE!

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[Stewox]

I can't wait for you to post the infowars article that says as much.

So what is your reasoning behind it possibly being "another" false flag incident?

Well this will definitely be the top thing on the broadcast today (11-2PM CST), you want to tune in to get an indepth look and the history of these kinds of events as well.

There are various forms:

1. Let it happen
2. staged
3. Fully staged with actors (no deaths)
4. Piggybacking

1. Organic event that they knew ahead is about to happen and they could have stopped it, but they let it happen to support political interests (gun control) - the shooter it self is usually an unstable person who is under psychotropic drugs such as prozac, doesn't necessairly kill himself. It's a bit more organized and prepared than the piggybacking case, but with less influence and contact than the staged forms, something in between.


2. Artificially created. Only certain individuals are aware of the whole story, most of them only know half or a fraction of the story, or no story at all except just positioned there at the right time, the shooter/bomber is a patsy who is not doing this by him self, he is prepared into doing it, but he doesn't know he will be betrayed later (chased and put to prison etc)
Example of this is Boston Marathon Bombing False Flag. However it was later seen that it also included crisis actors, who used tubes of fake blood and the wheelchair guy was faked too, he was already without legs.


3. Fully staged acting. Most of the participants are paid-off in $ thousands or millions of dollars and trained to perfrom their duties, fake crying, fake emotions, the stories are all written months in advance into a script, it's all carried out in a format of a "fema drill" but it's all a movie scene too, there are hundreds of these drills every year in US, but some of them are converted for political purposes, for example gun control.
Example of this is Sandy Hook Shooting Hoax.
Smoking Gun: Same woman actor at Sandy Hook and Boston Marathon.


4. An organic event that is not planned and the govt doesn't now ahead, but they (corporate media) piggyback it as you never want any crisis go to waste. The media then makes up a big story out of it to fuel drama or panic and for social engineering. It doesn't have to be about shooters and religion, remember the trayvon martin thing, it was mostly about racial stuff in the media.




All those, the cause is not mental health as default, or mental health system not being good enouh lol, it's the drugs mostly either used as perscription or a cocktail of them forced by the perpetrators, the same system that the above poster said "our country needs better mental health system", it already works as it supposed to, giving hardcore perscription drugs in order to dumb down the youth and make the population more controllable and also to make them go out and do these crazy things under total out-of-mind hypnosis, the shooter most of the time is also a victim as he's being used by other higher more powerful criminals. The shooters/bombers are sometimes further brainwashed to kill them selfs, to ofcourse get rid of any chances the truth would get out once the shooter has sobered up, so he wouldn't be able to let something slip that would not work with the original story.

The patsy (homeless looking guy with long hair and beard) in Boston Marathon was not reported by the media, because of the fast counter-attack response and great work of the alternative media at the time, they had to go to plan B and probably change it quite a bit in the middle of it, confusing the media reports, so they let the primary patsy alone, not sure what happened to him, and went for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of them, I don't remember, was working for CIA for more than 5 years, they simply used one of their guys and sacrificed them, but that's nothign unusual to have fallback plans, the other one, was instructed just to "just go and watch boston marathon at finish line on this time and enjoy the show" as kind of a "mission", he didn't know anything else, he wasn't told to do anything, he received money for doing these little things such as showing at certain places at certain times, but ofcourse when they both saw the media got them both on the target, they probably realized they've been set up and ran away, as anyone would, and then martial law was declared for the whole area there, with the good ol corporate snotnose dinosaur media effort, pressure cookers are now the latest boogeyman, welcome to planet hoax.

 

[BoomerD]

Black people shoot each other all the time every day in America. he's also president.
He sure jumped on that white cop/black resident situation his first week in office pretty god damn fast.


And as for "Commander In Chief" why did he never comment on all the times some marine raped a little afghani girl or some bullshit like that?

ASSHOLE!

As much as we've fucked up Afghanistan over the past 13 years, Afghans still aren't US citizens for him to comment about...right?

Yes, people shoot each other all the time...black, white, Mexican...all the fucking time...still, ghetto gang-banger murders are still different than some asshole shooting up a US military facility...someplace that's SUPPOSED to be "safe."

You don't give two fucks about Afghani girls or the victims of black-on-black crime...you just blame O'Bummer for your problems. Did he personally turn you down for that job at Hooters?

Is that what's troubling you, fella?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKkazr8M-n4