Shoot Them in the Legs, Trump Suggested

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The Oval Office meeting this past March began, as so many had, with President Trump fuming about migrants. But this time he had a solution. As White House advisers listened astonished, he ordered them to shut down the entire 2,000-mile border with Mexico — by noon the next day.

The advisers feared the president’s edict would trap American tourists in Mexico, strand children at schools on both sides of the border and create an economic meltdown in two countries. Yet they also knew how much the president’s zeal to stop immigration had sent him lurching for solutions, one more extreme than the next.

Privately, the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate. He wanted the wall electrified, with spikes on top that could pierce human flesh. After publicly suggesting that soldiers shoot migrants if they threw rocks, the president backed off when his staff told him that was illegal. But later in a meeting, aides recalled, he suggested that they shoot migrants in the legs to slow them down. That’s not allowed either, they told him.

A complete shutdown of the border, Mr. Trump said, was the only way.
Ms. Nielsen had tried reasoning with the president on many occasions. When she stood up to him during a cabinet meeting the previous spring, he excoriated her and she almost resigned.

Now, she tried again to reason with him.
We can close the border, she told the president, but it’s not going to fix anything. People will still be permitted to claim asylum.
But Mr. Trump was unmoved. Even Mr. Kushner, who had developed relationships with Mexican officials and now sided with Ms. Nielsen, could not get through to him.
“All you care about is your friends in Mexico,” the president snapped, according to people in the room. “I’ve had it. I want it done at noon tomorrow.”

Ms. Nielsen, who regularly found herself telling Mr. Trump why he couldn’t have what he wanted, was an obvious target. When the president demanded “flat black” paint on his border wall, she said it would cost an additional $1 million per mile. When he ordered wall construction sped up, she said they needed permission from property owners. Take the land, Mr. Trump would say, and let them sue us.

When Ms. Nielsen tried to get him to focus on something other than the border, the president grew impatient. During a briefing on the need for new legal authority to take down drones, Mr. Trump cut her off midsentence.

“Kirstjen, you didn’t hear me the first time, honey,” Mr. Trump said, according to two people familiar with the conversation. “Shoot ’em down. Sweetheart, just shoot ’em out of the sky, O.K.?”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/trump-border-wars.html

What a surprise that Trump is always a sadistic dangerous lunatic with little regard for life or the laws of the nation he governs.
 
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interchange

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I think America has been doing a much better job of not becoming a dictatorship than I previously realized.
 

feralkid

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"Privately, the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators"

"You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done. Ah, would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? Throw me a bone here! What do we have?"
 

repoman0

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Snake and alligator-filled trench??? Are you frickin kidding me? Does this clown think we are living inside a cartoon? He’d be just another mentally deteriorating 70-something that seem to be in such large supply these days if he didn’t suggest truly evil shit like shooting civilians in the legs.
 
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What's crazy to me is all of these things come out, yet none of the people serving in this administration want to come out and say what it is going on. Why do they continue to brown nose, defend and keep quiet about this garbage person? I can't wrap my head around their unwillingness to speak up.

Because they have no real issues with what's going on?
 

Aikouka

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Every passing news article seems to affirm my belief that one of Trump's biggest problems is one thing that people praised about him... that he had business prowess and would run the country like a business. The problem is that Trump appears to be a CEO who does not like to be questioned. At least based upon the Twitter rants, he seems to get rather steamed whenever one of his aides publicly disagrees with him, and god forbid some "lesser employee" (e.g. the latest whistleblower, National Weather Service, etc.) go against him.
 
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Guessing Stephen Miller recommended aiming a little higher. Anyone who still likes Trump please explain how Stephen Miller is still one of his closest advisors.
 

sandorski

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"Privately, the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators"

"You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads! Now evidently my cycloptic colleague informs me that that cannot be done. Ah, would you remind me what I pay you people for, honestly? Throw me a bone here! What do we have?"

The future Movies of this time will certainly have material to inspire. Whether it's Comedy or Tragedy has yet to be written.
 

Linux23

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So what happens when there is no one left to tell him what he wants is illegal???
 
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It’s stories like this that make me both terrified of the guy we have in charge and thankful that he’s so incredibly stupid.

I think it's far more simple ignorance than it is stupidity. Your country elected a dictator and by this point in time should not be surprised that he's doing his damnedest to actually be a dictator. And, I believe that to a large degree he's been succeeding. He's certainly showing the way for those who will (not might) follow.
 

Jaskalas

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So what happens when there is no one left to tell him what he wants is illegal???

1: Congress.
2: Courts.

The President, alone, doesn't stand a chance at tying his own shoes, let alone fulfilling such policy.