Shocking new study, rich people really are different...

[Thump553]

I really have my doubts about this study. In my life I've met a lot of people (rich and poor) who are generous and giving, especially to family and friends and a lot of people (both rich and poor) who are miserable SOBs.

I never judge someone by their wealth or societal status or level of education, but by their actions.

The only real exception to my rule is doctors' wives. Almost universally they are nasty people.

 

[PokerGuy]

And that entire article is steeped in class warfare, typical. "look how bad these people are for not giving me more of their money!"

Pretty much. You can tell from the article that the author pretty much is pushing class warfare, a typical dimlib. Not surprising, I'd bet his "studies" are loaded and set up to prove his pre-determined conclusion.

 

[GT1999]

The second everybody understands that the rich don't care about anybody but themselves is when our country will be in a better place. My ex's family was worth 12m, complete and utter assholes. They almost drove me to suicide. Good riddance and glad I cut that one off and she's in another state, following her rich, snobby parents. I hate the rich.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

I hate the rich.

Do you hate black people too? Maybe gays or Jews?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Pretty much. You can tell from the article that the author pretty much is pushing class warfare, a typical dimlib. Not surprising, I'd bet his "studies" are loaded and set up to prove his pre-determined conclusion.

Yeah, it's not like you guys are in here posting every single day validating these conclusions.

 

[GT1999]

Do you hate black people too? Maybe gays or Jews?

Nope... probably like them more than my own race/ethnicity actually, seeing most rich people are white.

 

[Spikesoldier]

rofl @ MSNBC, you guys, along with the partisan hacks here are great for a good laugh.

first it was 250K, now we've stooped to demonizing those 'wealthy' people making 90K. you realize that to gross 90K, probably like 20K or 25K of that is taken by the government, which is probably more than entire gross YEARLY salary for those bottom 50% earners who pay NOTHING.

don't worry 'rich' guys, we'll be sure to take 30K or 35K out of your 90K next year so we can pay for those pesky entitlements you'll never qualify for.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBS

This is just one small example of how millions of Americans are INDEED maliciously and malevolently breaking the law.

Show me where there are millions of Americans with offshore holdings. There are about 1,500,000 American households with incomes of more than $250,000/year combined. If you think that 2/3 of people in this country who make more than $250,000/year are lawbreakers, you're not worth my time in further discussing this matter.

 

[spidey07]

rofl @ MSNBC, you guys, along with the partisan hacks here are great for a good laugh.

first it was 250K, now we've stooped to demonizing those 'wealthy' people making 90K. you realize that to gross 90K, probably like 20K or 25K of that is taken by the government, which is probably more than entire gross YEARLY salary for those bottom 50% earners who pay NOTHING.

don't worry 'rich' guys, we'll be sure to take 30K or 35K out of your 90K next year so we can pay for those pesky entitlements you'll never qualify for.

Nailed it. 90k puts you around top 10%, and according to libtards that makes you rich and a bad person for not giving more to others. Remember to vote, taxpayers are being outnumbered.

 

[JockoJohnson]

We went from a society that cared about the middle class achieving the American dream to one that only cares about the rich staying rich and getting richer at the expense of everyone else. The results of that moral corruption are on display. This country is turning into a cheap labor, tax haven banana republic.

I agree. But what can we do about it? CEO's salaries have gone through the roof while worker's pay has stagnated. I am not going to put the argument of CEO salary = 500 x Worker Pay or whatever...it's not right when comparing WalMart CEO to cashier.

But what have CEO's done to be able to earn so much more than in previous years? Did they pick up a PhD or multiple degrees? I tend to think they learned how to game the system better and fuck over the company they work for and regular workers. Both sides (R and D) have allowed this--and to be honest, I don't think there is anything they could have legally done anyway.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Nope... probably like them more than my own race/ethnicity actually, seeing most rich people are white.

Gays and Jews are far more likely to be wealthy than straights and gentiles. I think you should start talking about how you hate them.

 

[spidey07]

I agree. But what can we do about it? CEO's salaries have gone through the roof while worker's pay has stagnated. I am not going to put the argument of CEO salary = 500 x Worker Pay or whatever...it's not right when comparing WalMart CEO to cashier.

But what have CEO's done to be able to earn so much more than in previous years? Did they pick up a PhD or multiple degrees? I tend to think they learned how to game the system better and fuck over the company they work for and regular workers. Both sides (R and D) have allowed this--and to be honest, I don't think there is anything they could have legally done anyway.

You know what they do? They make the company and other people money. Their salary is but a very small chunk of the amount of money they create for others.

 

[GT1999]

Gays and Jews are far more likely to be wealthy than straights and gentiles. I think you should start talking about how you hate them.

Never had a problem with either... I may actually be getting married by a gay priest next year. SO yeah, I must really hate gay people. Don't really see the correlation between me not liking rich people and other ethnicities or sexual orientation.

 

[JockoJohnson]

Show me where there are millions of Americans with offshore holdings. There are about 1,500,000 American households with incomes of more than $250,000/year combined. If you think that 2/3 of people in this country who make more than $250,000/year are lawbreakers, you're not worth my time in further discussing this matter.

You obviously don't know who you are arguing with. He loves to stereotype and won't back it up one bit. From the religious republican hillbillies in Alabama to the Mexican hating Texans, he hasn't missed a single opportunity to stereotype anyone he disagrees with.

 

[senseamp]

You know what they do? They make the company and other people money. Their salary is but a very small chunk of the amount of money they create for others.

That's rightwing thinking in a nutshell. It's not engineers, employees, etc that are creating value with their work. It's CEOs with their "leadership."

 

[JockoJohnson]

You know what they do? They make the company and other people money. Their salary is but a very small chunk of the amount of money they create for others.

But what extra have they done to make that extra amount of money? Believe me, I am conservative but not blind. I can see how much money top level execs get--when they get to create their own salaries, they usually don't take just enough and then re-invest it back into the company. They'll take as much as they can get, it's human nature. But the regular worker doesn't have a say in it. They have to report to their managers who help in determining their salary.

There's no good argument for why they get compensated so much but when they fuck up they pay no penalties. HP's Carly Fioriono or whatever, she drove the company down pretty good. I bet she isn't broke. How many CEO's receive "golden parachutes" after screwing over a company?

 

[spidey07]

That's rightwing thinking in a nutshell. It's not engineers, employees, etc that are creating value with their work. It's CEOs with their "leadership."

The engineer doesn't make money for the company or anybody. He just does what he is told, he's a sunk cost, an expense, he doesn't generate revenue. Sales and executives are what actually make the company money and in turn money for shareholders. The engineer and regular staff level employees creates none of this, they only do what they are told.

 

[JockoJohnson]

That's rightwing thinking in a nutshell. It's not engineers, employees, etc that are creating value with their work. It's CEOs with their "leadership."

Holy shit, agreeing twice in a day. But CEOs are some super-intelligent beings from another planet. They can do the job of all of the company's peons put together.

 

[JockoJohnson]

The engineer doesn't make money for the company or anybody. He just does what he is told, he's a sunk cost, an expense, he doesn't generate revenue. Sales and executives are what actually make the company money and in turn money for shareholders. The engineer and regular staff level employees creates none of this, they only do what they are told.

Are you dense? You think sales people and marketing people are going to design and create complex systems? Without engineers, there is nothing to sell or market.

One is just as valuable as another.

 

[JD50]

Wait a minute. You guys think that someone earning 90k per year is rich? loliberals.

 

[senseamp]

The engineer doesn't make money for the company or anybody. He just does what he is told, he's a sunk cost, an expense, he doesn't generate revenue. Sales and executives are what actually make the company money and in turn money for shareholders. The engineer and regular staff level employees creates none of this, they only do what they are told.

Keep it coming. Really saves me the time of typing up what rightwing mentality is when we can hear it straight from the horse's mouth. :thumbsup:

 

[JD50]

The engineer doesn't make money for the company or anybody. He just does what he is told, he's a sunk cost, an expense, he doesn't generate revenue. Sales and executives are what actually make the company money and in turn money for shareholders. The engineer and regular staff level employees creates none of this, they only do what they are told.

bullshit.

 

[JockoJohnson]

Wait a minute. You guys think that someone earning 90k per year is rich? loliberals.

Damn, I am shy of being rich by just a few thousand a year. Hope nobody tells my wife.

 

[spidey07]

bullshit.

No, it's called reality. Why do you think sales and marketing make all the money? Because they actually make the company money. Engineers and staff don't, it really is that simple. Once you learn this you can start making real money.

And that may get to the heart of the article. Those rich people know how the real world works, which can be perceived as selfish, but they have it figured out.

 

[JD50]

No, it's called reality. Why do you think sales and marketing make all the money? Because they actually make the company money. Engineers and staff don't, it really is that simple. Once you learn this you can start making real money.

Well, according this article and some of the loliberals here I'm already rich. Anyways, without the engineers and staff, sales and marketing has nothing to sell or market.