Shock Rocker Alice Cooper on Rock stars and Politics

[ScoobMaster]

Shock-rock legend Alice Cooper calls rock stars campaigning for Democrat John Kerry treasonous morons:

"To me, that's treason," Cooper told the Canadian Press. "I call it treason against rock 'n' roll because rock is the antithesis of politics. Rock should never be in bed with politics."

"If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal."



Full Article here

 

[CPA]

Bruce Springsteen are you listening?

 

[ShotgunSteven]

The members of R.E.M. could stand to learn a thing or two from him.

 

[Megatomic]

MTV are YOU listening?

 

[mflacy]

Same goes for many movie and Tv stars

 

[GoingUp]

:thumbsup:

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

The rock community against Bush has always been laughable.

"I just woke up in puddle of my own vommit, took a dump out my hotel window, knowingly gave a girl herpes two nights ago, still owe 17 months of child support, spit on two security guards, and threw a $4,000 guitar through a $20,000 speaker last night...but LIKE HELL would I use military force to overthrow Saddam Hussein."

:roll:

 

[Ausm]

Alice Cooper Rocks!!

Ausm

 

[MaxDepth]

Heh heh, the MTV and VH1 fans never vote anyway...

 

That's right, because your profession makes your opinion either less or more valid. :roll:

 

[Kilgor]

Originally posted by: SampSon
That's right, because your profession makes your opinion either less or more valid. :roll:

No their way of life to me makes their opinion less than valid. Actors, Rock stars and Pro Athletes don't live the way we do, they live in a different world than we do. Theirs is a fantasy world riding on top of ours and people support it. I?ll give you an example if you ask a Hollywood actor what they think of Gun Control they would be all for it but you need to ask yourself how they came about their conclusion. They don?t need guns they have bodyguards to protect them, when you have 6 ft 5in tall 350 lb Brutis the bodyguard with his Uzi why would you need a gun. But little people like 99% of us don?t have Brutis, if a group of hooligans wants to beat you down unless you have a weapon you get beat down. The police will come but usually the beat down will already have happened.

 

[gururu]

if we can't trust rock stars, who can we trust?

 

[Thump553]

Please-this is the same joker that made a political song into a hit ("Elected") over thirty years ago. I guess politics in rock and roll is fine so long as you are exploiting politics for commercial gain but not if you are actually expressing an opinion. Alice Cooper is a hypocritical, washed-up has-been several decades beyond his fifteen minutes of fame.

 

Originally posted by: Kilgor

Originally posted by: SampSon
That's right, because your profession makes your opinion either less or more valid. :roll:

No their way of life to me makes their opinion less than valid. Actors, Rock stars and Pro Athletes don't live the way we do, they live in a different world than we do. Theirs is a fantasy world riding on top of ours and people support it. I?ll give you an example if you ask a Hollywood actor what they think of Gun Control they would be all for it but you need to ask yourself how they came about their conclusion. They don?t need guns they have bodyguards to protect them, when you have 6 ft 5in tall 350 lb Brutis the bodyguard with his Uzi why would you need a gun. But little people like 99% of us don?t have Brutis, if a group of hooligans wants to beat you down unless you have a weapon you get beat down. The police will come but usually the beat down will already have happened.

So the same goes for politicians. Nearly none of them lead anything CLOSE to the lives we lead. Their opinions are therefore less valid than ours.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ScoobMaster
Shock-rock legend Alice Cooper calls rock stars campaigning for Democrat John Kerry treasonous morons:

"To me, that's treason," Cooper told the Canadian Press. "I call it treason against rock 'n' roll because rock is the antithesis of politics. Rock should never be in bed with politics."

"If you're listening to a rock star in order to get your information on who to vote for, you're a bigger moron than they are. Why are we rock stars? Because we're morons. We sleep all day, we play music at night and very rarely do we sit around reading the Washington Journal."



Full Article here

I agree, Alice Cooper is a Moron. He sold out before anybody else sold out. WTF, Hollywood Squares? Jesus fsckin Christ, Elvis is spinning in his grave.

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Thump553
Please-this is the same joker that made a political song into a hit ("Elected") over thirty years ago. I guess politics in rock and roll is fine so long as you are exploiting politics for commercial gain but not if you are actually expressing an opinion. Alice Cooper is a hypocritical, washed-up has-been several decades beyond his fifteen minutes of fame.

pfft - he's a legend, a god among rockers.

 

[kaizersose]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Kilgor

Originally posted by: SampSon
That's right, because your profession makes your opinion either less or more valid. :roll:

No their way of life to me makes their opinion less than valid. Actors, Rock stars and Pro Athletes don't live the way we do, they live in a different world than we do. Theirs is a fantasy world riding on top of ours and people support it. I?ll give you an example if you ask a Hollywood actor what they think of Gun Control they would be all for it but you need to ask yourself how they came about their conclusion. They don?t need guns they have bodyguards to protect them, when you have 6 ft 5in tall 350 lb Brutis the bodyguard with his Uzi why would you need a gun. But little people like 99% of us don?t have Brutis, if a group of hooligans wants to beat you down unless you have a weapon you get beat down. The police will come but usually the beat down will already have happened.

So the same goes for politicians. Nearly none of them lead anything CLOSE to the lives we lead. Their opinions are therefore less valid than ours.

agreed, i think we should be rid of them all. they dont pay social security and have a 4-year window on repercussions for anything idiotic they do.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: Thump553
Please-this is the same joker that made a political song into a hit ("Elected") over thirty years ago. I guess politics in rock and roll is fine so long as you are exploiting politics for commercial gain but not if you are actually expressing an opinion. Alice Cooper is a hypocritical, washed-up has-been several decades beyond his fifteen minutes of fame.

which is, I think, the exact point he was trying to make. He certainly doesn't put himself up above anyone else, according to the quote.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Thump553
Please-this is the same joker that made a political song into a hit ("Elected") over thirty years ago. I guess politics in rock and roll is fine so long as you are exploiting politics for commercial gain but not if you are actually expressing an opinion. Alice Cooper is a hypocritical, washed-up has-been several decades beyond his fifteen minutes of fame.

Yeah, this is the kind of cutting-edge mentality that has kept Alice Cooper fresh and relevant for the last 30 years. :roll:

Newsflash: There is a longstanding tradition of using music to promote political ideals (remember the Star Spangled Banner, Woody Guthrie, or Bob Dylan?), and I think this is the right time for artists of all mediums to come out and say how they feel. The point is not that their opinions mean more than the rest of us, but that they can speak to the feelings and frustrations of their audience. This is pretty much the reason punk rock originated, almost 30 years ago now.

Whatever one thinks of their music (and I'm not a fan, particularly), neither Bruce Springsteen nor R.E.M. are morons, regardless of what Alice Cooper might think. I recall seeing a Springsteen interview on Charlie Rose, and he was amazingly facile and well-spoken.

I guess if people prefer hearing songs about love and the weather, that's their right, but Alice Cooper has no credibility to tell other musicians how to practice their craft.

BTW, is there such a thing as the "Washington Journal" anyway?

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Thump553
Please-this is the same joker that made a political song into a hit ("Elected") over thirty years ago. I guess politics in rock and roll is fine so long as you are exploiting politics for commercial gain but not if you are actually expressing an opinion. Alice Cooper is a hypocritical, washed-up has-been several decades beyond his fifteen minutes of fame.

Cooper's song "elected" mocked politics, pretty much like he's doing to the "Rock for Kerry" crowd. :roll:

 

[phantom309]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
The members of R.E.M. could stand to learn a thing or two from him.

They were a much better band when nobody could understand Stipe's lyrics.

And I agree about celebrities and politics. Most celebrities are famous for their looks, or for a very narrow range of talent. A lot of them are incredibly ignorant and uneducated - you just don't see it because most things they say in public are scripted by people who ARE educated.

On the other hand, I do understand that Bono is very intelligent and informed, and his opinions are respected by a surprising number of political figures.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Corn

Cooper's song "elected" mocked politics, pretty much like he's doing to the "Rock for Kerry" crowd. :roll:

I'd say this is more an effort to get some of the publicity table scraps from the upcoming tour by Springsteen et al than anything else. The Rock-For-Kerry artists can still fill huge venues, whereas Alice Cooper is lucky to get booked at the State Fair. By commenting on them, he can ride their coattails to get his interviews published/aired. The only thing "shocking" about this "shock rocker" is that he's still ambulatory.

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
MTV are YOU listening?

Are you kidding?....they don't even play music anymore. LOL

I knew Cooper would have something cool to say like that. :thumbsup:

 

[DougK62]

I don't mind the musicians/actors supporting the politics they believe in. It just bothers me that Joe Moron will agree with them just because "The Boss supports Kerry so I should too!"

I usually find celebrity interviews about politics to be insanely funny since most of them are so obviously off in their little world with no connection to reality.

 

[ThaPerculator]

Lol... Cooper rocks...

People are like 'Cooper is a sellout' well no crap, he's not an idiot. What would you do if you had the chance to make some serious bank and be financially stable for the rest of your life, while sitting on your ass and being a rock star? Cooper has always paid full respect to his influences, and you can tell he has done stuff in his career out of the sheer enjoyment of it (his numerous roles in horror b-flicks, etc.).

Anyone who thinks that Dave Matthews or Don Henley or any of those hippies knows exactly what they are talking about is an idiot. Based on who they are, they immediately get a skewed view on politics, seeing as they are in a position to persuade massive amounts of people very easily.

Cooper says it best by basically telling people to turn off MTV and quit listening to rock stars for their beliefs, because he knows from experience exactly what it is like to be one. Basically he says if you want to learn about politics, actually research politics. Don't base your vote on what the 'bandwagon' wants you to use it for.