Shithole state does shithole thing

[dawp]

I'm in Iowa, while they just passed laws to allow permit less carry, I'd prefer what Missouri did.

I guess if someone believes in freedom they are in a shithole state. Ok. Gotcha.

state laws can not weaken federal laws, they can supersede federal laws when they are stronger than the fed version.

 

[shortylickens]

I'm in Iowa, while they just passed laws to allow permit less carry, I'd prefer what Missouri did.

I guess if someone believes in freedom they are in a shithole state. Ok. Gotcha.

well, that argument has slowly become shit over the last few years.
Most of the people who claim to believe in freedom and guns making America free have been actively oppressing anyone who disagrees with them, or doesn't blindly support their agenda. They try and succeed and suppressing votes they don't think will go to them. And they tried to forcibly overthrow a legitimate government, because a bunch of professional liars told them the election was bogus. And they brought guns with them. They routinely attempt and succeed to prevent a woman's right to abortion. So no, they don't love freedom. They love guns because guns make them feel powerful. I'd say out of all the 2nd Amendment lovers we have in this country only a tiny portion (like maybe 1 percent) actually understand its historical significance and their duty to use it responsibly.

If you look at it from a national standpoint we may have run out of reasons to support the 2nd Amendment. It was supposed to prevent things exactly like what happened on January 6th. It was military/government agents armed with guns who stopped the traitors, not private citizens with guns.

If we keep up this bullshit we ARE going to lose our right to own weapons.

 

[shortylickens]

state laws can not weaken federal laws, they can supersede federal laws when they are stronger than the fed version.

that only applies to things you DON'T have a constitutional right to.
You do not have a constitutional right to a car. Or to alcohol. Or about a thousand other things.
You do (currently) have a right to own weapons, to get an abortion, to vote, a speedy trial, a jury of your peers, some privacy especially with regards to property and police touching, opening, or seizing your property, and right now a lot of those freedoms are in jeopardy and frankly I don't see enough politicians or private citizens fighting to keep those rights.

 

[dawp]

that only applies to things you DON'T have a constitutional right to.
You do not have a constitutional right to a car. Or to alcohol. Or about a thousand other things.
You do (currently) have a right to own weapons, to get an abortion, to vote, a speedy trial, a jury of your peers, some privacy especially with regards to property and police touching, opening, or seizing your property, and right now a lot of those freedoms are in jeopardy and frankly I don't see enough politicians or private citizens fighting to keep those rights.

the feds beg to differ

DOJ warns Missouri officials state can’t ignore federal gun laws

The Department of Justice (DOJ) is warning Missouri state officials that they can’t ignore federal gun laws, The Associated Press reported Thursday.In a letter obtained by the news service, DOJ off…

thehill.com

 

[Meghan54]

that only applies to things you DON'T have a constitutional right to.
You do not have a constitutional right to a car. Or to alcohol. Or about a thousand other things.
You do (currently) have a right to own weapons, to get an abortion, to vote, a speedy trial, a jury of your peers, some privacy especially with regards to property and police touching, opening, or seizing your property, and right now a lot of those freedoms are in jeopardy and frankly I don't see enough politicians or private citizens fighting to keep those rights.

Wrong, young man. Supremacy Clause in Constitution. Article VI, section 2.

In Altria Group vs. Good, 555 U.S.70 (2008), about preemption doctrine: “state laws that conflict with federal laws are without effect.”

AZ vs. U.S., 567U.S.387 (2012), Supreme Court upheld federal immigration law preempted state law.

Feds and states can share the same legal spheres, such as levying taxes, but states can’t print their own currency, for example.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

the feds beg to differ

DOJ warns Missouri officials state can’t ignore federal gun laws

The Department of Justice (DOJ) is warning Missouri state officials that they can’t ignore federal gun laws, The Associated Press reported Thursday.In a letter obtained by the news service, DOJ off…

thehill.com

Seems as if the Guv'nuh'd like a word ....

Missouri governor, AG send defiant response to Justice Department over gun law

Schmitt and Parson wrote that they will “fight tooth and nail” to defend the right to own guns as spelled out in the state constitution and the new law

www.ksdk.com

 

[HomerJS]

I'm in Iowa, while they just passed laws to allow permit less carry, I'd prefer what Missouri did.

I guess if someone believes in freedom they are in a shithole state. Ok. Gotcha.

They said the same thing for states that refused to enforce civil rights laws, asshole

Freedom? You mean like Texas where you can now carry without a permit but can't buy beer on Sunday? That kind of freedom?

 

[dawp]

They said the same thing for states that refused to enforce civil rights laws, asshole

Freedom? You mean like Texas where you can now carry without a permit but can't buy beer on Sunday? That kind of freedom?

i used to live in TX, you can buy beer on sunday after 12, just not booze

 

[feralkid]

i used to live in TX, you can buy beer on sunday after 12, just not booze

It varies by county; several Texas Counties are completely dry.

 

[dawp]

It varies by county; several Texas Counties are completely dry.

yup, fort worth is wet and haltom city is dry, you can cross beach street and go from dry to wet

 

[JTsyo]

I bet they'll have no issue enforcing gun laws on some people and not others.
If they just stopped arresting people, probably not much could have been done but by making it a law, it opens up legal avenues. Wonder if they'll go as far as stopping federal agents enforcing gun laws in the state.

 

[MtnMan]

i used to live in TX, you can buy beer on sunday after 12, just not booze

I live in NC, beer after 10AM Sunday, (this used to be noon till a couple of years ago) no bottle of booze. You can get mixed drinks on Sunday.

 

[FelixDeCat]

While I do not support the weakening of gun control laws, I did not see the OP crying when many states no longer enforced the criminalization of weed.

In my opinion weed is harmful to everyone. I was in Walmart the other day and half the automated kiosks were broken because the working ones took cash only and most people do not carry cash. They few human cashiers they had left were busy trying to ring people out. When I was near checkout myself I was stuck behind a couple who were stoned silly and could barely function.

After 20 mins of waiting on their antics of changing their mind about buying, not buying, buying then not buying and constantly asking basic questions all while laughing I finally had to leave. Everyone behind me was furious.

Yeah, lets legalize weed nationwide. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[nickqt]

While I do not support the weakening of gun control laws, I did not see the OP crying when many states no longer enforced the criminalization of weed.

In my opinion weed is harmful to everyone. I was in Walmart the other day and half the automated kiosks were broken because the working ones took cash only and most people do not carry cash. They few human cashiers they had left were busy trying to ring people out. When I was near checkout myself I was stuck behind a couple who were stoned silly and could barely function.

After 20 mins of waiting on their antics of changing their mind about buying, not buying, buying then not buying and constantly asking basic questions all while laughing I finally had to leave. Everyone behind me was furious.

Yeah, lets legalize weed nationwide. What could possibly go wrong?

Your anecdote is dogshit, as is your opinion on most things. Thanks for stopping by.

 

[shortylickens]

They said the same thing for states that refused to enforce civil rights laws, asshole

Freedom? You mean like Texas where you can now carry without a permit but can't buy beer on Sunday? That kind of freedom?

And again, since you didnt see it the first time:
You do not have a constitutional right to alcohol.

 

[nickqt]

And again, since you didnt see it the first time:
You do not have a constitutional right to alcohol.

The Constitution wasn't meant as a delineation of rights.

We also don't have a "constitutional right" to computers or shag carpeting.

 

[shortylickens]

The Constitution wasn't meant as a delineation of rights.

We also don't have a "constitutional right" to computers or shag carpeting.

The point, you missed it completely.

If a state decides to take away something NOT federally protected they can do that. Homer was saying its not freedom that you cant buy beer on Sunday. I say thats tough toboggans.
If we wants to march on the capitol and ask for the right to buy beer on Sunday, he's free to do that.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Your anecdote is dogshit, as is your opinion on most things. Thanks for stopping by.

You know you agree with me. Just admit it.

 

[NWRMidnight]

While I do not support the weakening of gun control laws, I did not see the OP crying when many states no longer enforced the criminalization of weed.

In my opinion weed is harmful to everyone. I was in Walmart the other day and half the automated kiosks were broken because the working ones took cash only and most people do not carry cash. They few human cashiers they had left were busy trying to ring people out. When I was near checkout myself I was stuck behind a couple who were stoned silly and could barely function.

After 20 mins of waiting on their antics of changing their mind about buying, not buying, buying then not buying and constantly asking basic questions all while laughing I finally had to leave. Everyone behind me was furious.

Yeah, lets legalize weed nationwide. What could possibly go wrong?

When did not enforcing a federal law, become invalidation of that federal law? Also, did you pass your Civics courses in high school? Because you seem to not understand who is responsible for enforcing state level laws, vs federal laws. (guess what, in all 50 states, weed can still be prosecuted at the federal level, including those states that have legalized weed at the state level, it's up to the federal authorities to enforce it).

Besides, your example really has nothing to do with weed, and has everything to do with how indecisive we humans are when it comes to food, and how much people lack patience due to their own selfishness (that would be you). Maybe you should go smoke some weed so you can relax and not be such a selfish, impatient prick. Or maybe crack open another ice cold beer since you think weed is harmful to everyone.

 

[BoomerD]

I have a more tit for tat idea.

Since Guv'nuh Cancel Culture wants to cancel Federal laws, I propse the Feds cancel all support of Misery State and local police. That means no more support from FBI for crime scene work, no access to NCIC or AFIS (Fingerprinting), no service from BATF on explosives, no DHS support, no aid from the US Marshal Service for fugitive recovery or transportation and so on.

While we're at it, cut off ALL sources of federal funds...highways, ATC, everything that doesn't go directly to the people, such as food stamps, WIC, and aid to families with children.

 

[soundforbjt]

I was in Walmart the other day

You're first mistake.
Going to Walmart and expecting upstanding examples of anything related to normal citizen behavior.

 

[HomerJS]

And again, since you didnt see it the first time:
You do not have a constitutional right to alcohol.

Requiring a permit does not take away a right to own a firearm. Even 1A isn't absolute

 

[ch33zw1z]

While I do not support the weakening of gun control laws, I did not see the OP crying when many states no longer enforced the criminalization of weed.

In my opinion weed is harmful to everyone. I was in Walmart the other day and half the automated kiosks were broken because the working ones took cash only and most people do not carry cash. They few human cashiers they had left were busy trying to ring people out. When I was near checkout myself I was stuck behind a couple who were stoned silly and could barely function.

After 20 mins of waiting on their antics of changing their mind about buying, not buying, buying then not buying and constantly asking basic questions all while laughing I finally had to leave. Everyone behind me was furious.

Yeah, lets legalize weed nationwide. What could possibly go wrong?

Yep, cuz this makes sense. Lol

Remember bowling Greene? Dozens murdered by joints. Horrible.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

You do not have a constitutional right to alcohol.

Well, there IS the 21st.

 

[MrSquished]

Yep, cuz this makes sense. Lol

Remember bowling Greene? Dozens murdered by joints. Horrible.

The right is so far gone.

Hell when they sell someone a gun it should come with a joint. You are probably less likely to shoot someone stoned and chill than sober or when drinking.