Shinedown - If You Only Knew

[irishScott]

Why is this just getting popular now? Don't get me wrong it's a good song, but suddenly it's hit the radio (billed as "the latest thing from Shinedown" like it's actually new) over the last couple of months, over a year after the album came out. What the hell?

For the unenlightened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvMyb1GxFjA

 

[FoBoT]

their A&R man?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist_and_repertoire

 

[Saint Nick]

John Mayer's first CD, Room for Squares, had a single off of it ("Why Georgia") released a couple of weeks before his sophomore CD, Heavier Things, came out.

Room for Squares was released in 2001...Heavier things in 2003. Incubus had this happen with "Drive". Released in 1999, I think, came out in 2001.

I think they delay the release of singles to keep the CD alive a while longer while they tour and record a new disc.


BTW: Sound of Madness is a lot better than their first two albums.

 

[Oil]

That is a good song?

 

[darkswordsman17]

John Mayer's first CD, Room for Squares, had a single off of it ("Why Georgia") released a couple of weeks before his sophomore CD, Heavier Things, came out.

Room for Squares was released in 2001...Heavier things in 2003. Incubus had this happen with "Drive". Released in 1999, I think, came out in 2001.

I think they delay the release of singles to keep the CD alive a while longer while they tour and record a new disc.


BTW: Sound of Madness is a lot better than their first two albums.

If you really enjoy that generic modern rock sound. Granted, I didn't find their other two great, and the one was depressing as fuck, but now they sound just like all the others (Nickelback/Daughtry/Hinder/etc). Between the compression and weird tones that make no sense to be putting in music (Second Chance has this really annoying ringing for instance), they're practically unlistenable beyond background music in a car.

OP, there are some bands that will release a single years later after having already released it as a single before, like Hey There Delilah. It didn't do well enough the firs time so they pimped it again. I thought I was going crazy and that someone had literally just done the same song the same way. The worst part is the people who liked it were not aware that it was the same exact song from before, and some of them said they hated it then, but then loved it later.

 

[Platypus]

lol shinedown

 

[krylon]

If you really enjoy that generic modern rock sound. Granted, I didn't find their other two great, and the one was depressing as fuck, but now they sound just like all the others (Nickelback/Daughtry/Hinder/etc). Between the compression and weird tones that make no sense to be putting in music (Second Chance has this really annoying ringing for instance), they practically unlistenable beyond background music in a car.

Tell us how you really feel. How about your opinion on beer, pizza, and Jessica Alba?

 

[lokiju]

If you really enjoy that generic modern rock sound. Granted, I didn't find their other two great, and the one was depressing as fuck, but now they sound just like all the others (Nickelback/Daughtry/Hinder/etc). Between the compression and weird tones that make no sense to be putting in music (Second Chance has this really annoying ringing for instance), they practically unlistenable beyond background music in a car.

Ah, the never ending response that always comes up with anything on ATOT that's opinion based.

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[gorcorps]

It's a terrible fucking song... and I actually liked that album as a whole. There are a good 6 MUCH better choices to put out as a single.

 

[irishScott]

If you really enjoy that generic modern rock sound. Granted, I didn't find their other two great, and the one was depressing as fuck, but now they sound just like all the others (Nickelback/Daughtry/Hinder/etc). Between the compression and weird tones that make no sense to be putting in music (Second Chance has this really annoying ringing for instance), they practically unlistenable beyond background music in a car.

Sounds awesome to me, and they sound nothing like Nickelback and especially not Daughtry.

And I just listened to Second Chance on some very nice nice-canceling headphones, I hear no ringing whatsoever. Check your speakers? Brain Tumor?

 

[irishScott]

It's a terrible fucking song... and I actually liked that album as a whole. There are a good 6 MUCH better choices to put out as a single.

It's better than the title track IMO, but yeah it's far from the best on the Album.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Sounds awesome to me, and they sound nothing like Nickelback and especially not Daughtry.

And I just listened to Second Chance on some very nice nice-canceling headphones, I hear no ringing whatsoever. Check your speakers? Brain Tumor?

You're right, autotuned restrained scream/howl vocals, compressed distorted guitar all over the place, among many other formulaic rock staples. Nothing alike. Fact is they do a lot of similar things and none of them really stand out much to people who don't listen to this music much (which is true of most genres/subgenres). Personally, I find them ok, but cannot listen to them a lot and often get tired of them all very quickly, if I don't outright dislike the song in the first place. My disdain largely stems from the fact that I used to be a big fan of this type of music before it got particularly bad (autotune and compression being too easy to point out culprits). It doesn't help that its labeled as hard rock/metal but shares more in common with pop music these days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtqKiCLVG3c

At 50 seconds, there's the ringing I'm talking about. It gets much fainter in that version. Listening to it on the radio and an MP3 of it I had, it was much more pronounced.

Noise-cancelling is actually not a good thing in audio, and is used on a lot of fairly crappy equipment that at best tends to perform well below its price point (even with Sennheiser). Perhaps you're meaning noise-isolating like IEMs?