Sharpie Marker to label CD & DVD ? ? ?

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  1. are34

    are34 Member

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    I have been using a Sharpie Black Marker to label my cd's and dvd's . A buddy recently
    told me that the ink from the marker would degrade the cd or dvd and destroy it
    eventually. Is there any truth to this ?
     
  2. Blain

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    National Institute of Standards and Technology
    "Care and Handling of CDs and DVDs - A Guide for Librarians and Archivists"
    Page 21... 5.2.5 Marking
     
  3. Idontcare

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    I use sharpie permanent markers but I intentionally buy the CD and DVD's that are intended to be written on or printed on (so they have a solvent barrier already). If you are using those all-shiny silvery sided DVD's then you need to make sure your specific markers are water-based if possible to minimize the chances of having issues:

    Specifically page 21 (physical page 29):

     
  4. conlan

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    Been using Sharpies to mark our CDs and DVDs for a decade with nary a problem.
     
  5. geokilla

    geokilla Golden Member

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    So you're suppose to use those CD markers? I need to get myself a Sharipie because my markers dried out, and all I have left are those Crayola ones. I thought the Sharpie and CD Markers by Sharpie are the same, just different naming and stuff so they can charge more.
     
  6. RebateMonger

    RebateMonger Elite Member

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    If people stopped using Sharpies to label CDs, Sharpie would probably go out of business.
     
  7. imported_wired247

    imported_wired247 Golden Member

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    According to the article linked above, alcohol based markers are sort of ok. Sharpees are alcohol based. Also, once the solvent evaporates, that's it. No more solvent. So there is no residual solvent to eff things up.

    Conclusion... sharpees (non-extra fine) are the way to go
     
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    hehehehe
    I have to agree
     
  9. Blain

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    Great link, thanks for that.
     
  11. taltamir

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    one of the things you can do, is label the disk first with a rapid dry marker... if you look at a burned disk you can see the concentric rings of the burn, if a part of the disk is bad it will just skip it and leave a blank spot (say, if you have a piece of goo stuck to the bottom, don't ask :p).
     
  12. Idontcare

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    I use Nero CD-DVD Speed to verify the integrity of everything I burn, no eye-test required.
     
  13. taltamir

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    i didnt mean to suggest eye testing, i meant to point out that it SKIPS areas that are unwriteable, and yet the CD remains readable, if you have a full CD and there are predamaged areas, writing will fail, but otherwise it will dynamically reallocate to skip the defective area, leaving "holes" in the "rings" you can see on a burned disk
     
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    CD burners do not just "skip" unburnable sections, I don't know where you got that idea from.

    The reason that CDs seem to still be readable, even if there is a bit of goo stuck to the burning surface that blocks writing, is because of the powerful ECC codes used in CD media.

    If the bit of goo was a bit larger, you can bet that the CD wouldn't be readable.
     
  15. taltamir

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    I put a CD in, it had some goo on it... it left an area which was clearly not burned on, yet it passed verification, all my data was there.
    Thats where I got the idea... it was a pretty big bit too... I guess I can do some experimentation and let you know how it worked out :)
     
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    Same here. If I couldn't use Sharpies for this, I would be stuck with a mass of un-labeled CDs and DVDs. It would be chaos.
     
  17. Blain

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    Epson makes printers that print on "printable" CD's & DVD's.
     
  18. taltamir

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    printable disks simply have PAPER on one side... you can write on them with ANYTHING
     
  19. Blain

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    Ok, I'm going to need a link for that one.
     
  20. taltamir

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    Well, it looks and feels like paper... and acts like paper...
    A little googling found me this:
    http://www.osta.org/technology/dvdqa/dvdqa9.htm

    Saying it is "inkjet absorption layer", but it feels and looks like paper, and I have yet to see the actual description of its exact composite...

    And this:
    http://www.wisegeek.com/can-i-...ker-on-a-cd-or-dvd.htm

    Saying it is paper.


    also according to wiki the definition of paper is "Paper is thin material mainly used for writing upon, printing upon or packaging. It is produced by pressing together moist fibers, typically cellulose pulp derived from wood, rags or grasses, and drying them into flexible sheets."
     
  21. LOUISSSSS

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    we all know we're going to continue using sharpie markers regardless of what people say
     
  22. Idontcare

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    But your 0.05$ CD's and 0.25$ DVD's will be in teh jeopardy!
     
  23. are34

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    I looked at the package that my DVD's came in an it does not mention anything about using a special markers to write on the label.
    You would think they would specify that. I also noticed that there is a area on the DVD media lableled "Title" that you write on has a mate type finish
    on it. Wonder if that area is coated with something so the inks won't penetrate the media?
     
  24. Idontcare

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    Mine are the same way, in fact I intentionally look for the media which has these label "areas" on them as I assumed they would have some protective underlayer involved.
     
  25. Modelworks

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    The inkjet printable DVD are going to have the best protection from any kind of marking. Seems putting stick on labels on a DVD causes the most failures, way more than a sharpie.