Sharon likely to be indicted

[digitalsm]

Might be a repost. Might not.

Israel's chief prosecutor has drafted an indictment against Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in a long-running corruption scandal that could drive him from office, Israel's Channel 2 television said on Saturday.

The report said State Attorney Edna Arbel plans to submit the charge sheet within days to Attorney General Menachem Mazuz, who will make the final decision on whether to put the 76-year-old leader on trial.

Channel 2 said it could take Mazuz months to decide whether to accept Arbel's recommendations, adding to a cloud of political uncertainty that has enveloped Sharon.

Prosecutor recommends charging Sharon

 

[Painman]

What goes around, comes around?

 

[rickn]

good, he's a criminal, treat him as such

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Painman
What goes around, comes around?

Now if Arafat would just croak. Although the power vaccum such a death would create might create a big problem.

 

[Tab]

Interesting, I wonder if he will get indicted though.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Tabb
Interesting, I wonder if he will get indicted though.

Even if he is never offically indicted he is practically done now.

 

[tnitsuj]

Sharon should be shot not indicted. Line up Arafat as well.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Let us pray for peace in Jerusalem.

 

[dahunan]

I think he is already indicted by Belgium for atrocities in Beiruit - he will be tried after his term ends in Israel.

http://indictsharon.net/press/030213compile.shtml

http://www.pmwatch.org/pmw/features/sharonlawsuit.html

 

[0roo0roo]

course, no mention of forbes list rich arafat or his endless crimes against civilians and well..his own people

 

[EagleKeeper]

Arbel's draft concluded there were sufficient grounds to charge Sharon with bribery in connection with a real estate deal involving his son, Gilad, and land developer David Appel, a stalwart of the prime minister's right-wing Likud party, the report said.

[/Q
This has nothing to do with the Political situation involving Israel vs Arabs.

 

[chess9]

I'd ditto what Justin said. But I get to shoot. Those two are so mushy headed one bullet would be enough.

-Robert

 

[Jhhnn]

Dunno what Arafat has to do with the allegations of corruption against Sharon- I think we need to leave him out of this, unless he's a co-conspirator, which seems unlikely.

There's been a lot of talk for months, and a lot of backroom maneuvering and footdragging- lots of folks apparently want the whole thing to just fade away, quietly. Too late for that.

Get on with it, or let it go... Either Sharon is above the law, or he's not- time for the Israelis to invoke whatever principles they have, or simply admit to being a corrupt ethnic oligarchy...

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: rickn
good, he's a criminal, treat him as such

What crime was he convicted of??

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Sharon should be shot not indicted. Line up Arafat as well.

Why??

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Sharon should be shot not indicted. Line up Arafat as well.

Why??

Because, like Arafat, Sharon has a history of being every bit as much a terrorist. Here's one relevant link:

Sharon's history is a record of terrorism is well documented going back to the early 1950s. In 1953, he was a commander of a unit known as "Force 101," whose mission was supposedly retaliation against Arab attacks on Jewish villages. In fact, as can be seen from two terrible onslaughts, one of them very well known, Force 101's purpose was to instill terror by inflicting murderous violence not only on able bodied fighters, but on the young, the old, and the helpless.

Sharon's first documented sortie in this role was in August of 1953 on the refugee camp of El-Bureig, south of Gaza. An Israeli history of the 101 unit records 50 refugees as having been killed; other sources allege 15 or 20. Major-General Vagn Bennike, the UN commander, reported that "bombs were thrown" by Sharon's men "through the windows of huts in which the refugees were sleeping and, as they fled, they were attacked by small arms and automatic weapons".

In October of 1953, Sharon's unit attacked the Jordanian village of Qibya. Israel's foreign minister at the time, Moshe Sharett, wrote in his diary that the "stain would stick to us and not be washed away for many years."

As Israeli historian Avi Shlaim describes the massacre, "Sharon's order was to penetrate Qibya, blow up houses and inflict heavy casualties on its inhabitants. His success in carrying out the order surpassed all expectations. The full and macabre story of what happened at Qibya was revealed only during the morning after the attack. The village had been reduced to rubble: forty-five houses had been blown up, and sixty-nine civilians, two thirds of them women and children, had been killed. Sharon and his men claimed that they believed that all the inhabitants had run away and that they had no idea that anyone was hiding inside the houses."

The UN observer on the scene reached a different conclusion. He wrote, "One story was repeated time after time: the bullet splintered door, the body sprawled across the threshhold, indicating that the inhabitants had been forced by heavy fire to stay inside until their homes were blown up over them."

The slaughter in Qibya was described contemporaneously in a letter to the president of the United Nations Security Council dated 16 October 1953 from the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of Jordan to the United States. On 14 October 1953 at 9:30 at night, he wrote, Israeli troops launched a battalion-scale attack on the village of Qibya in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan (at the time the West Bank was annexed to Jordan).

According to the diplomat's account, Israeli forces had entered the village and systematically murdered all occupants of houses, using automatic weapons, grenades and incendiaries. On 14 October, the bodies of 42 Arab civilians had been recovered; several more bodies were still under the wreckage. Forty houses, the village school and a reservoir had been destroyed. Quantities of unused explosives, bearing Israel army markings in Hebrew, had been found in the village. At about 3 a.m., to cover their withdrawal, Israeli support troops had begun shelling the neighbouring villages of Budrus and Shuqba from positions in Israel.

Here's another from an October 2, 2000 report on CNN

A retired army general, Sharon's prominent role in the conflict dates to 1953 when he was a young army officer who formed Force 101. The unit raided Palestinian strongholds in retaliation for terrorist attacks. Palestinians feared and hated Force 101, charging that its targets were often innocent civilians.

Don't take it from just these sources. Just search on Google for "Ariel Sharon" "Force 101" (both in quotes) for more info.

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: rickn
good, he's a criminal, treat him as such

What crime was he convicted of??

did I say he was a convicted criminal. you don't have to be convicted to be a criminal. some of his actions are criminal, and no worse than what the palestinians do

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Sharon should be shot not indicted. Line up Arafat as well.

Why??

Because, like Arafat, Sharon has a history of being every bit as much a terrorist. Here's one relevant link:

Sharon's history is a record of terrorism is well documented going back to the early 1950s. In 1953, he was a commander of a unit known as "Force 101," whose mission was supposedly retaliation against Arab attacks on Jewish villages. In fact, as can be seen from two terrible onslaughts, one of them very well known, Force 101's purpose was to instill terror by inflicting murderous violence not only on able bodied fighters, but on the young, the old, and the helpless.

Sharon's first documented sortie in this role was in August of 1953 on the refugee camp of El-Bureig, south of Gaza. An Israeli history of the 101 unit records 50 refugees as having been killed; other sources allege 15 or 20. Major-General Vagn Bennike, the UN commander, reported that "bombs were thrown" by Sharon's men "through the windows of huts in which the refugees were sleeping and, as they fled, they were attacked by small arms and automatic weapons".

In October of 1953, Sharon's unit attacked the Jordanian village of Qibya. Israel's foreign minister at the time, Moshe Sharett, wrote in his diary that the "stain would stick to us and not be washed away for many years."

As Israeli historian Avi Shlaim describes the massacre, "Sharon's order was to penetrate Qibya, blow up houses and inflict heavy casualties on its inhabitants. His success in carrying out the order surpassed all expectations. The full and macabre story of what happened at Qibya was revealed only during the morning after the attack. The village had been reduced to rubble: forty-five houses had been blown up, and sixty-nine civilians, two thirds of them women and children, had been killed. Sharon and his men claimed that they believed that all the inhabitants had run away and that they had no idea that anyone was hiding inside the houses."

The UN observer on the scene reached a different conclusion. He wrote, "One story was repeated time after time: the bullet splintered door, the body sprawled across the threshhold, indicating that the inhabitants had been forced by heavy fire to stay inside until their homes were blown up over them."

The slaughter in Qibya was described contemporaneously in a letter to the president of the United Nations Security Council dated 16 October 1953 from the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of Jordan to the United States. On 14 October 1953 at 9:30 at night, he wrote, Israeli troops launched a battalion-scale attack on the village of Qibya in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan (at the time the West Bank was annexed to Jordan).

According to the diplomat's account, Israeli forces had entered the village and systematically murdered all occupants of houses, using automatic weapons, grenades and incendiaries. On 14 October, the bodies of 42 Arab civilians had been recovered; several more bodies were still under the wreckage. Forty houses, the village school and a reservoir had been destroyed. Quantities of unused explosives, bearing Israel army markings in Hebrew, had been found in the village. At about 3 a.m., to cover their withdrawal, Israeli support troops had begun shelling the neighbouring villages of Budrus and Shuqba from positions in Israel.

Here's another from an October 2, 2000 report on CNN

A retired army general, Sharon's prominent role in the conflict dates to 1953 when he was a young army officer who formed Force 101. The unit raided Palestinian strongholds in retaliation for terrorist attacks. Palestinians feared and hated Force 101, charging that its targets were often innocent civilians.

Don't take it from just these sources. Just search on Google for "Ariel Sharon" "Force 101" (both in quotes) for more info.

I don,t need to read all your linkage to understand your passion.

I took this from your first link


"It can be strongly argued that Sharon represents the long-term policy of all Israeli governments"

and no doubt arafat represents the long-term policy of all palestine governments(whatever that would be.)

Maybe we should just line up all the jews and palastinians and shoot them all.

That would definately solve the problem also, and it would follow the
method you propose....

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: rickn
good, he's a criminal, treat him as such

What crime was he convicted of??

did I say he was a convicted criminal. you don't have to be convicted to be a criminal. some of his actions are criminal, and no worse than what the palestinians do

In our society, and the power we project throughout the world, there is a common theme.
Everyone gets a trial before they get the label.

You do have to be convicted of a crime to earn the title of criminal, that or be declared
criminally insane.

 

[Shuxclams]

Why not take him out with a cruise missle?














SHUX

 

[rickn]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: rickn

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: rickn
good, he's a criminal, treat him as such

What crime was he convicted of??

did I say he was a convicted criminal. you don't have to be convicted to be a criminal. some of his actions are criminal, and no worse than what the palestinians do

In our society, and the power we project throughout the world, there is a common theme.
Everyone gets a trial before they get the label.

You do have to be convicted of a crime to earn the title of criminal, that or be declared
criminally insane.

so if you steal something, and don't get caught, you're not a criminal. Would it help if I said his Criminal ACTIONS

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Ozoned
Maybe we should just line up all the jews and palastinians and shoot them all.

That would definately solve the problem also, and it would follow the
method you propose....

Actually, it wouldn't. I was just replying to your question, "Why?" That would only be another example of sinking to their level of violence as a solution.

What I actually believe is, Sharon should be brought before the World Court and tried for crimes against humanity for some of the things he has done, and so should Arafat. So far, all they've manged for the latter was a Nobel Peace Prize. What a joke!

< sarcasm > There are times I believe the problem is that the Isrealis and Arabs all live in a desert, they spend far too much time in the sun, and they're all too brain fried to ever behave as rational, compassionate human beings. < /sarcasm >

If they're ever going to get beyond it, they have to start by realizing they're all stuck in the same piece of realestate, and they're going to have to figure out how to live with each other and respect each other's civilizations. Of course, that gets back to one of my other pet peeves, the ridiculousness of using religion as a political force.

Meanwhile, getting back to the topic at hand, Sharon has more to answer for than getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Shuxclams
Why not take him out with a cruise missle?

You'd probably need more than one.

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Shuxclams
Why not take him out with a cruise missle?

You'd probably need more than one.

Nahhh wait until he gets to his ranch. I'm sure we could take him out with a cruise missile. Send one to the Muqata as well.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Shuxclams
Why not take him out with a cruise missle?

You'd probably need more than one.

Nahhh wait until he gets to his ranch. I'm sure we could take him out with a cruise missile. Send one to the Muqata as well.

What I meant was, he'd have to lose alot of weight before one missle would do him in. The guy has his own zip code.