Shadow of war pc performance

[siveshen]

Hello I was wondering how well a gtx 1050ti and core 2 quad q9450 would do in shadow of war at 720p?

 

[Guru]

That CPU is way too old to be any decent. Unfortunately it's going to bottleneck the 1050ti, even though it's only a low end card.

So yeah, it would probably do okayish at 720p with a mix of low and medium settings.

 

[psolord]

I am going to try some heavy speculation by using some Shadow of Mordor performance data I have handy..

This is my Q9550 @4ghz + GTX 970 @ 1.5Ghz benchmarking video, at a point that there is some action (be careful of my spicy wallpaper if you move the slider-don't let grandma see it xD)

https://youtu.be/deuAytjMtbY?t=320

No need to watch it however. I can tell you what's going on. The game runs at 50-60fps, with 70-80% gpu load. Therefore the run is already cpu limited, even with the cpu at 4GHz. All that a Ultra preset.

I am mentioning the cpu first and will move on to the gpu later. Now the Q9450 runs at 2,66Ghz. Since it retains the 12MB L2 cache, we can do a division of 4 / 2,66=1.50 therefore the cpu I am using in this already cpu limited run, is 50% faster than your Q9450.

As a result, you would be looking at 1/3 less performance. You would already be looking at 33-40fps compared to my 50-60, from the lower cpu clock alone.

Now the 970@1.5Ghz is also around 40% faster than the 1050Ti, however since it was cpu limited in that run there was still a 20% performance left on the table. I am not going to do more calculations, but with some graphics tweaking (lower than Ultra of course), the 1050Ti could even hit 60fps. Your 720p resolution is quite lower than my 1080P, so for the sake of the argument lets consider the gpu part as 1:1 between 970 OC 1080P and 1050Ti 720P.

Now the problem with all that, is that Shadow of War, will leave behind the solitary single player experience of the Shadow of Mordor and will move towards a more large scale battlefront focused gameplay, which will make the game more complex and therefore more demanding in both gpu and cpu power. So taking the above example of 33-40fps of Shadow of Mordor on your system, will mean that the Shadow of War would most certainly go even lower. Dipping below 30fps is a no no for most gamers.

What we can hope for however, is that the Shadow of War will be built on a newer more optimized LithTech engine which should help with overall performance.

Also lowering graphics settings, also helps cpu performance, due to lower draw calls and consequently lower cpu overhead. Especially distance related graphics settings, work miracles on weak cpus.

All in all, I'd say you'd be looking at 30fps with sensible tweaking of the graphics settings.

 

[siveshen]

Psolord you're a boss for all those calculations thanks bro. Shadow of mordor runs at 75fps most of the time and drops to about 59 or 60 fps at ultra settings im hoping to play shadow of war at atleast high settings at 720p. Thank you for your very informative response really appreciate it

 

[siveshen]

Could anyone recommend the cheapest cpu upgrade that'll give the most performance. I was thinking brand new I3 for gaming but games might not launch as HT isnt always supported

 

[Guru]

Could anyone recommend the cheapest cpu upgrade that'll give the most performance. I was thinking brand new I3 for gaming but games might not launch as HT isnt always supported

I3's are a terrible value, especially since Ryzen launched.

If you want the cheapest decent performance its gotta be the G4560 that goes for about $60-70. Its 2 core part, so you are essentially looking at a decent performance now, no futureproofing.

Much better processor would be the Ryzen 3 1200, but its also more expensive at about $100-110.

No matter what though, you are looking at spending money for new motherboard, processor and ram. Even the cheapest parts would cost you over $150.

 

[psolord]

Could anyone recommend the cheapest cpu upgrade that'll give the most performance. I was thinking brand new I3 for gaming but games might not launch as HT isnt always supported

I have never had a problem with my secondary system which has a hyperthreaded core i7-860.

If some game do not run on the i3 it is a different matter. It is because they are reading it as a dual core and have a quad core as a minimum requirement.

I would also recommend a Ryzen too or maybe wait to see the new Intel offerings.

However, it wouldn't be too bad to look for a second hand Sandy Bridge. Preferably with fast RAM. It would be a huge upgrade compared to the Q9450 and it still does an admirable job.

 

[siveshen]

Hi so I took your advice and ordered a ryzen 3 1200 and a320m mobo I was wondering if it would work right off the bat if I hooked it up to the same pc loaded with win7

 

[siveshen]

Basically want to know if itll just work after I set everything up like bios would load normally and just work im not that sure of how bios works when jumping to a whole new system

 

[EXCellR8]

unfortunately it's not that easy. you'll want to do a fresh install of the choice OS; the older hardware is MUCH different than the Ryzen spec stuff especially when considering the motherboard.

you can however, use software like Acronis True Image to migrate the old OS onto the new hardware. you'll want to have a CD or USB disk that contains drivers for the new board though, so the software knows to install them when it moves Windows.

 

[psolord]

Hi so I took your advice and ordered a ryzen 3 1200 and a320m mobo I was wondering if it would work right off the bat if I hooked it up to the same pc loaded with win7

Why not a B350 board so you can take advantage of the unlocked nature of Ryzens down the road? Even at stock it will work fine for sure, but I like to keep OC as an option for possible difficult situations in the future.

Also I would go for Windows 10.

Usually when upgrading, you need a clean install. In theory, devices that are not detected will be disabled and replaced by the new devices that will be detected. However it's not smooth sailing most of the times. It has worked a couple of times in the past, but I ended up reinstalling and starting the system with a clean slate.

Especially going from something very old to something very new, will probably give you bsods due to the difference in the storage controllers.

Have fun with your new system mate.

 

[siveshen]

So I move my gpu into my new pc setup connect dvi and boot up system? then from there install windows? and drivers

 

[psolord]

Yeap, pretty much.

You can also copy the c:\users\yourusername and the c:\programdata to another disk and copy them back after you have finished installation of the OS.

Also I think Microsoft is not providing Windows 7 support for new computer systems any more. For Ryzen, Kabylake and the lot.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Could anyone recommend the cheapest cpu upgrade that'll give the most performance. I was thinking brand new I3 for gaming but games might not launch as HT isnt always supported

Irrelevant now, since you already bought ryzen, but I am not aware of any games that wont launch on and i3. With hyperthreading, the OS sees it as a quad core. Some pentiums wont launch, but I have never heard of that on an i3.

 

[siveshen]

Thanks for all the help guys. patiently awaiting the release of Shadow Of War!!!!

 

[psolord]

Your ryzen 3 1200 seems to be running the game fine.

http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-test-gpu-cpu



The 1050Ti at 1080p is around 30fps, but since you aim for 720p things will be quite easier. Still I am afraid you will not be able to hit 60fps without some fine tuning of the settings.