...Sh*tty civics and NOS =\ [Pic of my car included]

[Mill]

I had never heard NOS used for nitrous until the Fast and the Furious. I dunno maybe you should surf more car related websites or actually have little knowledge in the area. Me saying Kleenex was a monopoly was NOT misleading. I backed up my statements. You are just saying stuff without any proof. You are the one getting all butt hurt and calling me a moron. I am keeping this civil. Sucks being wrong doesn't it?

 

[Balthazar]

<< "I need NOS! I need NOS!" - Fast&Furious
"He's got enough nitrous to blow himself up.." - F&F

Nitrous isn't cheating. It's just another way to add oxygen to an engine to build horsepower, instead of using a belt-driven air pump (supercharger) or a turbine that runs off of exhaust gas velocity (turbocharger). In fact, nitrous has the horsepower advantage over both other power-adders due to the fact that nitrous oxide is stored in liquid form under high pressure, and goes through a phase change (from liquid to gas) when it's injected into the motor. This helps keep the air/fuel mixture cooler (and therefore denser).

However, running nitrous oxide on some pile of crap Civic is kind of silly. >>



Yes, no, and kinda.

First off, don't be a putz, say Supercharger and Turbocharger, I thinkwe know what they are, second your comment about it having the advantage is kinda crap.
The amount of HP gained by nitrous entirely depends on the amount you inject, and that number is final, hence, if you add a set amount of boost from a turbo or change the pulley on a supercharger, you get X amount of increase, same as you would by injecting X amount of Nitrous.
Add the weight of the tanks, the cost of refilling, and the enhanced danger in using it and you don't really find much of an advantage.

Nitrous is an easy way of doing what you COULD do with mechanics. Hence ricers love it because if it requires much more than applying a sticker it's too much work.

After all they still gotta replace the tailights.

 

[pyonir]

"Arguing on the internet is like the Special Olympics. Win or lose, you're still retarded."

 

[Balthazar]

P.S.

As for keeping the air mixture cooler....that's what we have intercoolers for.

 

[Mill]

<< Add the weight of the tanks, the cost of refilling, and the enhanced danger in using it and you don't really find much of an advantage. >>



Tank doesn't weigh that much even with 10-20lbs of nitrous in it. What enhanced danger? Cost of refilling is usually 30 bucks. I don't pay 30 though. I pay around 15. It lasts me a good 7-10 1/4 mile passes.

 

[Mill]

The amount of nitrous you inject can be changed much easier than a pulley on a supercharger. A turbo would be much easier due to just playing with boost controller. All you have to do to change nitrous is change the jet size. Takes all of about a minute.

 

[notfred]

<< P.S.

As for keeping the air mixture cooler....that's what we have intercoolers for. >>


Who is this "we" who have intercoolers? Does your car have an intercooler? If not, I sugest you say that "they" have intercoolers....

 

[Lucky]

What enhanced danger?


Are you serious?

 

[Mill]

Yes I am. What enhanced danger?

 

[Lucky]

<< Yes I am. What enhanced danger? >>



The danger of a 250hp shot with no internal upgrades.

 

[notfred]

<<

<< Yes I am. What enhanced danger? >>



The danger of a 250hp shot with no internal upgrades. >>



you missed this line, huh?



<< Sean Hyland 69000 GT Longblock new 2001 longblock with Cobra forged crank, SHM forged rods and pistons, topped with ported power heads and stock cams >>

 

[Mill]

The danger of not reading signatures?

Sean Hyland 69000 GT Longblock new 2001 longblock with Cobra forged crank, SHM forged rods and pistons, topped with ported power heads and stock cams.

 

[Lucky]

<< The danger of not reading signatures?

Sean Hyland 69000 GT Longblock new 2001 longblock with Cobra forged crank, SHM forged rods and pistons, topped with ported power heads and stock cams. >>

Thats exactly why I wrote what I did. You post as if there is *no* danger to installing nitrous. In a 50-60hp shot, properly installed, lower-milage car? Not really.

 

[Mill]

<< In a 50-60hp shot, properly installed, lower-milage car? Not really. >>



That would be perfectly safe on a 4 cylinder. On a V8 a 125-150 would be perfectly safe. All you have to worry about is fuel! As long as you have injectors and a pump to support the additional fuel needed then you have NO problems. I never said to run a 250 shot on a stock engine. All I said it that what dangers? Dangers that people are stupid and think they can add a 250 shot to a civic with a stock engine? Sure. If you buy nitrous and don't know what you need to do, then that is your problem. All it takes it a little research, a good mechanic and common sense. Talk to people before you get it. I cannot stress this enough. Get a window switch. Make sure you don't accidently arm it. Make sure you have the window switch cut off way before your rev limiter. Make sure you don't spray it below 2800 RPM(windows switch will handle this for you). Make sure you don't spray in the rain or while on someone's ass. Do we really need a disclaimer for this crap? Nitrous is NO more dangerous than a supercharger or turbo. Both increase the amount of power by adding colder denser air. If you have more power you need more fuel. Not exactly rocket science. Do I need to put a disclaimer in my signature?

 

[Lucky]

No, all Im stressing is that there can be dangers, as you admitted. Thats it!

 

[notfred]

Is your car done yet?

 

[Mill]

Hell No! I am getting pissed that it is not ready. Freakin' tranny blows then I am now waiting on the Lentech one. AH!!! Buying from Canadians scare me!!! It has taken so long. I miss my car.

 

[Ultima]

<< wow
you coulda really hurt someone by racing.

why do you have to do that? are you overcompensating for something else?
this thread is SO NOT eakers approved. >>



It's just competition, sport. Not any different than when you're on a bike, running, swimming,.... whatever.
You're a woman so you don't get any of that... j/k ;P
Anyway I agree it can be dangerous, but from light to light on a main arterial the risk is mainly personal. Especially late at night

 

[Ultima]

<<

<< In a 50-60hp shot, properly installed, lower-milage car? Not really. >>



That would be perfectly safe on a 4 cylinder. On a V8 a 125-150 would be perfectly safe. All you have to worry about is fuel! As long as you have injectors and a pump to support the additional fuel needed then you have NO problems. I never said to run a 250 shot on a stock engine. All I said it that what dangers? Dangers that people are stupid and think they can add a 250 shot to a civic with a stock engine? Sure. If you buy nitrous and don't know what you need to do, then that is your problem. All it takes it a little research, a good mechanic and common sense. Talk to people before you get it. I cannot stress this enough. Get a window switch. Make sure you don't accidently arm it. Make sure you have the window switch cut off way before your rev limiter. Make sure you don't spray it below 2800 RPM(windows switch will handle this for you). Make sure you don't spray in the rain or while on someone's ass. Do we really need a disclaimer for this crap? Nitrous is NO more dangerous than a supercharger or turbo. Both increase the amount of power by adding colder denser air. If you have more power you need more fuel. Not exactly rocket science. Do I need to put a disclaimer in my signature? >>



below 2800 RPM.. why not? Just curious

As for other dangers with nitrous.. you're pretty fvcked if you get in a bad accident. BOOM!

 

[Jzero]

<< I had never heard NOS used for nitrous until the Fast and the Furious. I dunno maybe you should surf more car related websites or actually have little knowledge in the area. >>


Perhaps you should STFU instead of criticizing me. I have ALWAYS known ever since I knew what a nitrous system was which was at LEAST 10 years ago that NOS was a manufacturer of nitrous systems.
And in those 10 years, I have heard COUNTLESS uninformed dolts use NOS to describe ANY nitrous system. It did NOT start with that lame movie.
Maybe that's the first time YOU heard of it hehehe


<< Me saying Kleenex was a monopoly was NOT misleading. I backed up my statements. You are just saying stuff without any proof. >>


Ok, sure. If you think a company driving less than 1/2 the market is a monopoly, that's your own problem.
Go look up Microsoft's market share of the OS and office software market and get back to me.


<< You are the one getting all butt hurt and calling me a moron. I am keeping this civil. Sucks being wrong doesn't it? >>


Did I EVER call you a moron? You better go back and read my posts.

 

[Lucky]

Boy, I just read the kleenex debate.

49% is NOT a monopoly. And jzero did NOT call you a moron.


Monopoly: 3 : a commodity controlled by one party. By your own figures, the market is not even halfway controlled by one party. So who's the wrong one now?

(as if any of this matters)

 

[esc]

this thread is pretty interesting..

 

[Mill]

About microsoft's market share...I have had a hard time finding current data but this is pretty current: During 2000, the various versions of Windows represented half of total industry revenues for client, server, and host operating systems. In shipments of new licenses, Microsoft secured 41 percent of the total market in 2000. (Linux had 27 percent.) Source:Advisor.com

I can't believe you are denying that you called me a moron or that Lucky didn't see it either. WTF? Well let me quote it for you and take a screenshot in case you edit it.



<< I heard NOS used interchangeably with nitrous systems years before the fast and the furious brought it to the mainstream moron. >>

 

[ThaGrandCow]

<< wow
you coulda really hurt someone by racing.

why do you have to do that? are you overcompensating for something else?
this thread is SO NOT eakers approved. >>

 

[Jzero]

<< About microsoft's market share...I have had a hard time finding current data but this is pretty current: During 2000, the various versions of Windows represented half of total industry revenues for client, server, and host operating systems. In shipments of new licenses, Microsoft secured 41 percent of the total market in 2000. (Linux had 27 percent.) Source:Advisor.com >>


I did some of my own research and I, too, had a hard time finding any real estimates of MS's market share.
I will say that there is an Article in TheReg that fixes Internet Explorer's market share "in the high 80s" which I'd say is much closer to a monopoly.
Then again, the content of the article is about AOL endorsing Netscape in the next release of CompuServe....since this could lead to AOL bundling Netscape with AOL itself, it could change all that.
So since stiff competition is mounting it's questionable even then that the vast dominance of IE represents a monopoly....



<< I can't believe you are denying that you called me a moron or that Lucky didn't see it either. WTF? Well let me quote it for you and take a screenshot in case you edit it.



<< I heard NOS used interchangeably with nitrous systems years before the fast and the furious brought it to the mainstream moron. >>

>>



LOL....I'm hesitant to even touch this one, but I'll oblige what appears to be an honest misinterpretation:
If there was a comma between "mainstream" and "moron." Then I'd be calling you a moron.
Since there is no comma, "mainstream" modifies "moron." I'm not calling you a moron, I'm saying F&F brought it [NOS/Nitrous confusion] to mainstream morons.
Sorry if you thought I was calling you a moron. Not my intention at all.