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SGI is bankrupt :(

Wow... I used to rock an Origin 2000 and an Indy back in the day. Sad to hear this...
 
Originally posted by: Vinfinite
never heard of em
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SGI = tons of cool but proprietary equipment that costs 5-10 times the competition for the same performance.

It was inevitable. I've been saying for years in threads here that SGI and Sun are eventually going to disappear. Sure they'll struggle for years, maybe a decade. But they are on their way out. Small batches of specialized electronic equipment just doesn't cut it in this economy. The R&D costs are just too prohibitive.
 
Originally posted by: Vinfinite
never heard of em
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never heard of Silicon Graphics?

where have you been under a rock?

this sucks.. SGI rocked.. but they spent way too much on all thier flashy campus's in Silicon valley.. I swear half the buildings out there seem to belong to them an HP.



 
It's sad to see one of the biggest pioneers in CG go south like this. But I'm also impressed that standard PC's can now take the place of these workhorses, which I'm assuming is the main cause of SGI's fall - no need for ultra-expensive proprietary equipment.
 
Silicon Graphics will rise again!

....but in name only, as the existing stakeholders will get screwed and some other company picks up the brand name only leaving substantially all other assets to be eaten by the vultures for pennies on the dollar. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Vinfinite
never heard of em
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SGI = tons of cool but proprietary equipment that costs 5-10 times the competition for the same performance.

It was inevitable. I've been saying for years in threads here that SGI and Sun are eventually going to disappear. Sure they'll struggle for years, maybe a decade. But they are on their way out. Small batches of specialized electronic equipment just doesn't cut it in this economy. The R&D costs are just too prohibitive.
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I don't think Sun will end the same way.
Chances are, they'll eventually turn into a smaller version of HP, selling system, small and big, storage, etc, but all using IA32/AMD64 CPU's, keeping the SPARC legacy around for as long as there's a need, then canning it.

SGI...who knows, restructuring, getting bought out...
 
Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Vinfinite
never heard of em
Click to expand...
SGI = tons of cool but proprietary equipment that costs 5-10 times the competition for the same performance.

It was inevitable. I've been saying for years in threads here that SGI and Sun are eventually going to disappear. Sure they'll struggle for years, maybe a decade. But they are on their way out. Small batches of specialized electronic equipment just doesn't cut it in this economy. The R&D costs are just too prohibitive.
Click to expand...

I don't think Sun will end the same way.
Chances are, they'll eventually turn into a smaller version of HP, selling system, small and big, storage, etc, but all using IA32/AMD64 CPU's, keeping the SPARC legacy around for as long as there's a need, then canning it.

SGI...who knows, restructuring, getting bought out...
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suns new TI chip changed my whole view on the company..that thing is wickedly fast.....
 
Originally posted by: Aquila76
It's sad to see one of the biggest pioneers in CG go south like this. But I'm also impressed that standard PC's can now take the place of these workhorses, which I'm assuming is the main cause of SGI's fall - no need for ultra-expensive proprietary equipment.
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Exactly. You used to need that high-end gear to do heavy graphic stuff for film.

Now you can do all that on a $1000 PC.
 
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Vinfinite
never heard of em
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never heard of Silicon Graphics?

where have you been under a rock?

this sucks.. SGI rocked.. but they spent way too much on all thier flashy campus's in Silicon valley.. I swear half the buildings out there seem to belong to them an HP.
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Have you seen how HUGE the Cisco campus is?
 
Originally posted by: Sunner
I don't think Sun will end the same way.

Chances are, they'll eventually turn into a smaller version of HP, selling system, small and big, storage, etc, but all using IA32/AMD64 CPU's, keeping the SPARC legacy around for as long as there's a need, then canning it.
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Even if Sun does all that, the Sun as we know it would be gone (which is basically my point).

For the heck of it, I just looked up Sun's financial info:

Year: Net income (losses in parenthesis)
2001: $927M
2002: ($587M)
2003: ($3,384M)
2004: ($388M)
2005: ($107M)

So maybe for now, they might have stemmed the losses. But it still is 4 straight years without a profit. A business like that won't stay around forever in its current state. Sure, Sun has tons of assets, so it'll be around for a long time. I just can't see it staying for 20 years without a massive overhaul into a completely different company from what we know now.
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Sunner
I don't think Sun will end the same way.

Chances are, they'll eventually turn into a smaller version of HP, selling system, small and big, storage, etc, but all using IA32/AMD64 CPU's, keeping the SPARC legacy around for as long as there's a need, then canning it.
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Even if Sun does all that, the Sun as we know it would be gone (which is basically my point).

For the heck of it, I just looked up Sun's financial info:

Year: Net income (losses in parenthesis)
2001: $927M
2002: ($587M)
2003: ($3,384M)
2004: ($388M)
2005: ($107M)

So maybe for now, they might have stemmed the losses. But it still is 4 straight years without a profit. A business like that won't stay around forever in its current state. Sure, Sun has tons of assets, so it'll be around for a long time. I just can't see it staying for 20 years without a massive overhaul into a completely different company from what we know now.
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Yeah true, a brand new Sun, was merely pointing out that ch11 for Sun is unlikely 🙂
Guess IBM is the only company around with the resources, technical and financial, to keep a viable in house architecture alive.
 
Originally posted by: dullard
I just can't see it staying for 20 years without a massive overhaul into a completely different company from what we know now.
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They've pretty much already begun revamping a lot of their business model.

Also, SUN's financials are somewhat skewed because they can't pull an HP and hide their server losses behind their printer and desktop revenue.

 
Without SGI we might not have high-performance hardware-independent 3D programming. SGI created SGL which led to OpenGL which prompted MS to create Direct3D.
 
i wonder if now is a good time to pick up their stock. it has already dropped 84% today and is currently at .05 and the company just finished a re-org.
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Without SGI we might not have high-performance hardware-independent 3D programming. SGI created SGL which led to OpenGL which prompted MS to create Direct3D.
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A lot of the original Tech companies are gone.

I used to design Modems at Hayes Modems back in the 1990's.

R.I.P.

Hayes

SGI

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maan, i remembered back when they were contracted by Nintend oto design the n64. That, and Jurassic Park really put them on the cutting edge. So sad to see them go...
 
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