SFP-like concept for motherboards

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Hey Guys,

There's obviously a trend toward more compact computing, with the rise in popularity of not only mobile devices like smart phones, tablets and ultrabooks, but also in smaller form factor desktops. One thing that is often sacrificed with smaller form factor desktop computer is a lack of expandability or configurability. Take Mini-ITX for example. It only has 1x PCI-e slot, but there's nothing that can be done about that because we're limited by the sheer size of the expansion card format we use, the smallest of which is half-height PCI. Sure, there's Mini-PCIe, but this is internal only with no external facing IO ports.

One common work-around to this are USB dongles. You can currently get 'thumb drive' format TV tuners, wireless adapters, sound cards, flash storage, and quite a bit more. The main problem here, besides the USB interface, is that the devices sit external to the chassis which is ugly, prone to damage, plus a few additional drawbacks. Most of these dongles are also slightly oversized meaning many can't be used side-by-side.

There's an additional problem all of this causes, which is that because of the limited expandability options on smaller motherboards, motherboard manufacturers are compelled to cram more features onto the motherboard - features that everyone has to pay for but not necessarily need, like wireless adapters, higher quality sound cards, etc.

All this makes me wonder whether the PC industry could adopt a SFP-style expansion standard (think SFP modules for higher end switches). Motherboard's could implement the most common IO needs like USB, display ports and perhaps ethernet, and then leave six or more vacant SFP-style module ports. These could each connect to a dedicated PCI-e 1x bus. The ports could come with dust covers, but would not be "divided" per-say. By not physically dividing the ports, it allows for dual-width and triple-width adapters among other configuration, which is necessary for those modules that need to provide more IO ports or require more bandwidth; sound cards may require more IO port space for example. This format would would work equally well for laptops, as long as they're not impractically thin.

The only issue would be that these modules would have to be at least a couple of inches deep which may initially pose a challenge to board designers.

This would not replace the need for full-size PCI-e slots and there will always be the likes of graphics cards that need to PCB space, power and higher bus speed, besides a few more exceptions, most scenarios could be satisfied by this idea. I would imagine the module format to be a little bit larger than SFP modules. They would also be square in shape as to accommodate as many standard IO sizes as possible.

I'm curious to hear what others think? I really think this work.
 

BrightCandle

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I would like to have the expandability back without a doubt. Its very hard to find mITX motherboards that are good for everything and with a single PCI-E slot to make up what is missing often isn't enough. But the trade off would be that less features would be available in total as the modules would have to take up more space than a fully integrated part.
I like the idea, anything that improves expandability in ever smaller designs is important, I don't like the fact that as parts got smaller we got less choice about what went in them. Given the option I wouldn't have chosen the same storage device that Google chose in my nexus 7, I wouldn't have chosen to have an eSata output on my mITX motherboard powering my HTPC and expansion is the only way to fix the issues. I guess its just too small a market right now for them to care.
 

piasabird

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I think you might see some options on the bottom of the motherboard soon like MSATA or Centrino or SATA ports freeing up more real estate on the top of the motherboard. I think one big problem is the bulkiness of the power supply. When it comes down to it Most options involve Video cards and things like e-sata. On my gigabyte Z87N Wifi motherboard is wireless and it works great.

Mostly Physics keeps us from making smaller MINI-ITX computers. If you gotta have a Video Card and an after-market Cooler, then smaller is not going to happen.

I am just using a DVD, HD, CPU and RAM. In reality the Power supply and the cables take up too much room.
 
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