SFF that support X2 (939) and AGP

[imported_OrSin]

I know I said X2 in the title but i just got an Opt 175 (= to X2 4400).
This is for my GF and all she does is play kids games (so no real graphics) and I have a 9600 card for here now. But she does do alot of dvd encoding and watches alot of movies so the dual CPU will help her out alot.

So I basicly want to keep my AGP card because on board video is pretty slow and takes up alot of ram and ram is crazy high now. Right now she is using Vista RC2 and loves it so i can't go back to XP.I need to keep as mich memory free as possible. Right now 512 works ok. Yes people Vista works fine with 512 ram. The CPU is the real bottle neck in all her apps and I tested them with 1 GB and the apps was still just as slow with 100% cpu in both cases.

I know nforce 3 uses 939 and AGP but I'm not sure if they support X2 or Opt.
Any old shuttle biostar ASUS or any other sff barebones that support this configuration?Any suggestions?

PS
MAXT might not work because she likes the system small and most Matx cases are too wide. Do they make MATX cases in mini-towers.

 

[sanai79]

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbar...t/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856101002</a>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856101002
I think this one support X2 and AGP. Hope that helps.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Look at the Ultra Microfly case at ZipZoomFly or TigerDirect, then try to find a decent mATX motherboard with AGP instead of PCI-E.

If you give up on the 9600, you can get a Biostar TForce 6100-939 with onboard nvidia 6100 graphics. The 6100 might not be enough but it does have a PCI-E slot for adding a real video card later.

 

[imported_OrSin]

Not to sound ungrateful but did either of you guys really read my post.
Niether one has agp and stated why I dont want on onbaord video.
Also i said M-ATX could only owrk if I it had a town case.

People on these baords need to actually listen to people when suggetion things, in stead of just saying hey this is what I like even if it dont work for you. This i not really a rant about this post only. I'm pretty much up on SFF systems. I doubted I would get much help, since i know as much as most here.

 

[Aarondeep]

You aren't going to find a barebones with an AGP slot. You will only find PCIE. Your only option is to buy a motherboard and build your own SFF. If you can even find that.

Here is the only motherboard on newegg that even meets those specs. Text
Next time before you ask a qsn on this board do some research first instead of bagging on people only trying to help. Now go run along and buy your old hardware or look for something used on the FS/FT forum.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Look at the Ultra Microfly case at ZipZoomFly or TigerDirect, then try to find a decent mATX motherboard with AGP instead of PCI-E.

If you give up on the 9600, you can get a Biostar TForce 6100-939 with onboard nvidia 6100 graphics. The 6100 might not be enough but it does have a PCI-E slot for adding a real video card later.

A microfly and TForce should cost under $160, and you can get a PCI-E nv 7300LE or GS card for under $50, so around $200 for a solution that meets your requirements.

If you can find a 939 cube that has an AGP slot and supports Opterons for $200, great, if not, try "really reading" my post

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

Originally posted by: OrSinMAXT might not owrk befauce she likes the sytem small and most Matx cases are too. Do they make MATX cases in mini-towers.

Not really understanding this statement too well... "most Matx cases are too"... what? Big? Of course they make mATX cases in mini-towers. Didn't you say you were up on SFF? If you really were "up on SFF", you wouldn't need to ask these questions.

What's a "town case"?

Before ranting about people not listening, try learning to communicate in comprehendable English. :disgust:

 

[VooDooAddict]

I think a good question would be how much are you lookgin to spend on this SFF upgrade?

Price sounds more the issue as you don't want to add more RAM or get a new PCIe card.

Some SFF barebone setups are prohibatively expensive ... to the point where you could get a slim mATX mini tower system with a 6100 mATX motherboard AND upgrade the RAM.

 

[imported_OrSin]

Sorry for typo but i'm sure most user understood "town" meant tower.

I dont really care about my post. I care about the dozen of other users that ask question and they never get a good reply. It because users care less about the users questions and more about what they have want. I'm only asking if you want to state other things fine but first try to help the user.

The users that "answer" my question both answer with items I said would not work for me. It would be different if I didn't say this will not work. I took the time to research and still didn't find what I wanted. I ask only after I research things. And I answer people only after I do the same.

And as far aaron their are plenty of SFF that have AGP slots. I just dont know if they support X2. And yes a X2 system is so very old. I going to leave the rest of your little childest statement alone.

Dave did make a good point in buying a cheap PCI card in his second post. But if you look at his first post it basicly the exact system I said would not work for me.

One again i not trying to start a flame war jsut asking people to ready some post entirely before giving a reply. Anyway be good.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: OrSin
Sorry for typo but i'm sure most user understood "town" meant tower.

I dont really care about my post. I care about the dozen of other users that ask question and they never get a good reply. It because users care less about the users questions and more about what they have want. I'm only asking if you want to state other things fine but first try to help the user.

The users that "answer" my question both answer with items I said would not work for me. It would be different if I didn't say this will not work. I took the time to research and still didn't find what I wanted. I ask only after I research things. And I answer people only after I do the same.

And as far aaron their are plenty of SFF that have AGP slots. I just dont know if they support X2. And yes a X2 system is so very old. I going to leave the rest of your little childest statement alone.

Dave did make a good point in buying a cheap PCI card in his second post. But if you look at his first post it basicly the exact system I said would not work for me.

One again i not trying to start a flame war jsut asking people to ready some post entirely before giving a reply. Anyway be good.

I have SFF, agp, and X2. My mobo is still available on newegg last I checked.

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

http://eu.shuttle.com/it/DesktopDefault...noblendout-1/tabid-391/636_read-11484/

 

[VooDooAddict]

Originally posted by: OrSin
I took the time to research and still didn't find what I wanted. I ask only after I research things.

OrSin,

You are definitely the exception to the rule. Many times those of us that answer forum posts here (or on other boards) need to act like a level 1 tech support and be sure the poster has considered all the options and/or simply get more information before we can help.

Please, don't be offended if someone suggests something counter to the OP. There are many here trying to help. The other issue is that answers and suggestions don't only help you, but may also help others looking for similar help/information that may not have the exact same requirements as yourself.

I hope you've either found what you needed or you are at least closer to a solution.

 

[imported_OrSin]

Thanks all for the help.

I will omit I over reacted. It good that shuttle updated thier Nforce 3 Bios. Usually EOM baords dont updates so long after they stop making them. I do have to give shuttle credit for that.

And for DaveSimmons that configure you gave is not bad but I own a Xpack case (about the same as the Microfly) and a NV 6150 board in it. I do like the set and is very good deal, but my Gf hates it . She thinks they are jsut oo wide so that why i was lookign for something else.

And thanks all for the help.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Unfortunately, cost goes way up as the size goes down. Mac Mini would be perfect if it didn't have non-upgradeable awful intel graphics.

$1,000? Look at the Shuttle X100.
$300+? A shuttle cube and probably a PCI-E video card

Less than that and you're back to a wide mATX cube or relatively big mATX tower.