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SFF suggestions for gaming...

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yokomo

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Is there an SFF that will take all the goodies for high end gaming as in full hight video cards and such or do they all I just don't see how that little guy can do all the big ones can and do you still get overclock options just fill in a new guy like he has never seen one before?
 
OH yea and I have a 9800pro, Kingston HyperX pc3500 2x256, and an AMD xp2400 that I would like to use in this little monster and I have a xp3000 on the way.. so suggest some good ones that I can use for Lan parties... Games will be it's only job..
 
If this is for games then I would think you would need at least a gig of ram and a little bit faster processor.
 
Originally posted by: yokomo
OH yea and I have a 9800pro, Kingston HyperX pc3500 2x256, and an AMD xp2400 that I would like to use in this little monster and I have a xp3000 on the way.. so suggest some good ones that I can use for Lan parties... Games will be it's only job..
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Hi yokomo, I am considering doing a similar thing, but I am quite wary of buying pre-built SFFs as they are cramped and not very upgradeable. What I would suggest doing is purchasing a micro-ATX motherboard and using this Chenming cube case to put your components in - it has a 120mm fan for good cooling, takes standard ATX power supplies (provided your DVD drives are ~7" long or less), and supports all m-ATX motherboards while having 4 slots for PCI and AGP/PCI-E. The windowed version is OOS, but the non-windowed version is $82 at Newegg. (search for Chenming 118). Also, there is a rebadged version of this case selling under the Aspire X-QPACK name, it uses a different PSU and simply has 3 windows rather than 1 or none (2 on sides, 1 on top). This is probably the best m-ATX cube case I have seen, the Aria is a little limited and thermally inefficient. Good luck...
 
Shuttles have great build quality, but they are not as upgradeable as Micro-ATX systems, but they are smaller and quieter.
 
millero I actually had a gig of value ram before I got this hyperx and my system is night and day faster with what I have now so the gig of ram just for braggin I would have to say is just that? "for bragging". and ariafrost what mobo are you considering getting that is really a sweet looking little box..?
 
Originally posted by: yokomo
millero I actually had a gig of value ram before I got this hyperx and my system is night and day faster with what I have now so the gig of ram just for braggin I would have to say is just that? "for bragging". and ariafrost what mobo are you considering getting that is really a sweet looking little box..?
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I'm going socket 754 (A64) so I'm using this motherboard: AOpen s760GXm-S. Has everything I want, uses high quality components (like steel backplate) and has SilentTek (BIOS and windows software fan speed control). I don't know about Socket A motherboards, but this MSI m-ATX board looks good: Link to MSI Socket A motherboard

Good luck in your build!
 
XP 3000 CPU is fine for gaming. The video card is 80% of the setup.
Your current parts are ok for a game computer don't believe the hype that you need the news parts o have fun gaming. If you was happy wiht your only system then you will be happy with those parts in SFF.

I do like the chemming case, but I like the SHuttle and Biostar case better. Just my option on cases. If you have not gotten the 3000XP cpu I would hold off on that.
Athlon 64 would cost little more, but would be upgradable for year.
If you already got the 3000xp then go for a system where you can have 3-4 ram slots.
moving for 512 to 756 or 1024 MB of ram would help your system. Not sure if any of the prebuild SFF have more then 2 slot for ram. But it would checking out.
Either way have fun.
 
Originally posted by: ariafrost
Originally posted by: yokomo
OH yea and I have a 9800pro, Kingston HyperX pc3500 2x256, and an AMD xp2400 that I would like to use in this little monster and I have a xp3000 on the way.. so suggest some good ones that I can use for Lan parties... Games will be it's only job..
Click to expand...

Hi yokomo, I am considering doing a similar thing, but I am quite wary of buying pre-built SFFs as they are cramped and not very upgradeable. What I would suggest doing is purchasing a micro-ATX motherboard and using this Chenming cube case to put your components in - it has a 120mm fan for good cooling, takes standard ATX power supplies (provided your DVD drives are ~7" long or less), and supports all m-ATX motherboards while having 4 slots for PCI and AGP/PCI-E. The windowed version is OOS, but the non-windowed version is $82 at Newegg. (search for Chenming 118). Also, there is a rebadged version of this case selling under the Aspire X-QPACK name, it uses a different PSU and simply has 3 windows rather than 1 or none (2 on sides, 1 on top). This is probably the best m-ATX cube case I have seen, the Aria is a little limited and thermally inefficient. Good luck...
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Hey ariafrost, can you please tell me the name of the Chenming case you were trying to link there? I looked around newegg but the only other Chenming cube I see listed is the 118 which you also mentioned, but that takes a 80mm fan instead of the 120mm.

Have you read any reviews on the Antec Aria? I like the clean Shuttle like looks of it but I also like the Chenming's 2 5 1/4 bays. If the Aria is really that bad on cooling I'll pass on it.

Now I just need to find a decent s939 motherboard 🙂
 
Originally posted by: paperfist
Originally posted by: ariafrost
Originally posted by: yokomo
OH yea and I have a 9800pro, Kingston HyperX pc3500 2x256, and an AMD xp2400 that I would like to use in this little monster and I have a xp3000 on the way.. so suggest some good ones that I can use for Lan parties... Games will be it's only job..
Click to expand...

Hi yokomo, I am considering doing a similar thing, but I am quite wary of buying pre-built SFFs as they are cramped and not very upgradeable. What I would suggest doing is purchasing a micro-ATX motherboard and using this Chenming cube case to put your components in - it has a 120mm fan for good cooling, takes standard ATX power supplies (provided your DVD drives are ~7" long or less), and supports all m-ATX motherboards while having 4 slots for PCI and AGP/PCI-E. The windowed version is OOS, but the non-windowed version is $82 at Newegg. (search for Chenming 118). Also, there is a rebadged version of this case selling under the Aspire X-QPACK name, it uses a different PSU and simply has 3 windows rather than 1 or none (2 on sides, 1 on top). This is probably the best m-ATX cube case I have seen, the Aria is a little limited and thermally inefficient. Good luck...
Click to expand...


Hey ariafrost, can you please tell me the name of the Chenming case you were trying to link there? I looked around newegg but the only other Chenming cube I see listed is the 118 which you also mentioned, but that takes a 80mm fan instead of the 120mm.

Have you read any reviews on the Antec Aria? I like the clean Shuttle like looks of it but I also like the Chenming's 2 5 1/4 bays. If the Aria is really that bad on cooling I'll pass on it.

Now I just need to find a decent s939 motherboard 🙂
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Hmmm... the windowed case no longer seems to be available (darn) - the non-windowed version has 120mm fan though, as reviews around the web confirm - if you'll look the PSU has a 80mm and the case fan is significantly bigger. (Rear). Yeah, still looking for a decent s939 mobo here too... supposedly more good ones coming out towards end of this month. I'm going to hold off my build until mid-July.
 
Originally posted by: ariafrost
Originally posted by: paperfist
Originally posted by: ariafrost
Originally posted by: yokomo
OH yea and I have a 9800pro, Kingston HyperX pc3500 2x256, and an AMD xp2400 that I would like to use in this little monster and I have a xp3000 on the way.. so suggest some good ones that I can use for Lan parties... Games will be it's only job..
Click to expand...

Hi yokomo, I am considering doing a similar thing, but I am quite wary of buying pre-built SFFs as they are cramped and not very upgradeable. What I would suggest doing is purchasing a micro-ATX motherboard and using this Chenming cube case to put your components in - it has a 120mm fan for good cooling, takes standard ATX power supplies (provided your DVD drives are ~7" long or less), and supports all m-ATX motherboards while having 4 slots for PCI and AGP/PCI-E. The windowed version is OOS, but the non-windowed version is $82 at Newegg. (search for Chenming 118). Also, there is a rebadged version of this case selling under the Aspire X-QPACK name, it uses a different PSU and simply has 3 windows rather than 1 or none (2 on sides, 1 on top). This is probably the best m-ATX cube case I have seen, the Aria is a little limited and thermally inefficient. Good luck...
Click to expand...


Hey ariafrost, can you please tell me the name of the Chenming case you were trying to link there? I looked around newegg but the only other Chenming cube I see listed is the 118 which you also mentioned, but that takes a 80mm fan instead of the 120mm.

Have you read any reviews on the Antec Aria? I like the clean Shuttle like looks of it but I also like the Chenming's 2 5 1/4 bays. If the Aria is really that bad on cooling I'll pass on it.

Now I just need to find a decent s939 motherboard 🙂
Click to expand...

Hmmm... the windowed case no longer seems to be available (darn) - the non-windowed version has 120mm fan though, as reviews around the web confirm - if you'll look the PSU has a 80mm and the case fan is significantly bigger. (Rear). Yeah, still looking for a decent s939 mobo here too... supposedly more good ones coming out towards end of this month. I'm going to hold off my build until mid-July.
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Ah you're right about the 120mm fan, I was checking Chenming's site and they list it as such. I guess if you want a window then the Aspire cases are the way to go. The only thing that would make either of those cases perfect though is if you could get them w/o a PSU 🙂

I'll have to wait a little longer as well if some more mATX boards are due out. So far I only see a couple of ATi chipset based boards which I'm not sure I'd buy and a couple of Foxconn nForce4 based boards which look all right. I just wish the Foxconn?s had 2 PCI slots instead of 1 PCI & 2 PCI-E slots.

Anyway thanks for all the info, I?ve been looking all around for alternatives to the Shuttle box which could use more then 2 slots and I wasn?t aware that these cube cases existed. I had been leaning toward Monarch Computer?s Hornet cases up to this point.


 
I like the ATI 200 Express board the fit in the micro cases. First they all take 4 dimm slot s you can keep you memory and just add more. Second I like have On baord Video. I kniow I might not need it but I recycle my old computer to family so I can usually keep my video card and let them use my old system. I also don't need any of the "extra" feature of the Nforce 4 mother boards, so in the end I perfer the ATI 200 express.

They have it newegg for around 80 (when last I looked). Good luck
 
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