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13Gigatons

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http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/10/06/contraceptive.resignation.reut/index.html

Second expert resigns over FDA delay
Says contraceptive's over-the-counter status mired by politics

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- A second medical expert has resigned to protest the Food and Drug Administration's failure to allow over-the-counter sales of a "morning-after" contraceptive made by Barr Pharmaceuticals Inc.

Dr. Frank Davidoff, an internal medicine specialist, said Thursday he stepped down from his position as a consultant to the FDA's Nonprescription Drugs Advisory Committee about a month ago. Members of that panel and another committee of outside experts voted 23-4 in December 2003 to recommend non-prescription sales of the contraceptive, called Plan B.

The FDA so far has rejected that advice, as well as support from the agency's scientific staff. Then-FDA Commissioner Lester Crawford announced August 26 he was postponing a decision indefinitely and taking public comment for 60 days.

That delay "crossed the line for me," Davidoff said in an interview.

In his resignation letter, Davidoff said he wrote: "I can no longer associate myself with an organization that is capable of making such an important decision so flagrantly on the basis of political influence, rather than the scientific and clinical evidence."

Some conservative groups have lobbied fiercely to keep Plan B as a prescription-only product. Plan B is a set of pills that can prevent pregnancy if taken within 72 hours of sexual intercourse.

An FDA spokeswoman said Davidoff had been "a valued member of FDA's advisory committee" since 2001, and the agency "had hoped to continue using his services as an FDA consultant" after his term expired this year.

"His decision to resign as a consultant is an unfortunate loss of expertise as we work toward solving the complex policy and regulatory issues related to Plan B," she said.

Crawford said in August that officials still were grappling with how to keep a prescription requirement for girls younger than 17 while easing access for older women.

Davidoff's resignation, reported earlier this week by the Hartford Courant newspaper, follows the departure of Dr. Susan Wood, the FDA's top women's health official. Wood, who has a doctorate in biology, quit in August to protest the Plan B decision.

Davidoff, editor emeritus of the journal Annals of Internal Medicine, said he felt Plan B met all the criteria for an over-the-counter drug, including the requirements that users could understand instructions and use it properly without a doctor's guidance.

"As far as I was concerned, all the evidence presented to the committee, and we got a lot of it, ... was fully consistent with those requirements," he said.

For two years they have blocked it, pretty amazing that they can get away with these things.
 
Originally posted by: Warthog912
never, NEVER underestimate the religious right in this country-

No kidding. AFAIK, the egg has barely started to develop but it's considered an abortion.
 
It wont be long before they consider masturbation an abortion. We are killing all those poor defensless sperm!!
 
Based on this article, it sounds like the problem is not approving the drug - but rather, making it readily available off the shelf as opposed to needing a prescription.

This pill doesn't just magically make the fertilized egg go away. It is quite traumatizing to your body when you take it, and takes some time to get over it. I can understand from a completely scientific and clinical perspective why you wouldn't want people to pick it up without doctor intervention.

We really need to come up with a better way than condoms, oral contraceptives, and morning after pills. If we could just find out what chemical or enzyme could suppress sperm production and egg release without interfering with the rest of the hormones, then everyone could get an implant at puberty...
 
Politics should not play a role in how the FDA handles the regulation of medicines etc, it should be based on scientific principles. Clearly, politics is playing a huge role in this process, a miserable failure of the FDA.
 
Originally posted by: Warthog912
never, NEVER underestimate the religious right in this country-


Geez... I've been saying that for years...

IMHO.... it is far worse to be indifferent, apathetic or to do absolutely nothing and stand by as these things happen. Better to take a stand and do something, anything, no matter which side you stand on in this issue.

People in our country had just become to apathetic and feel that they have no voice anymore, but in fact they do! I just don't understand our younger generation anymore...

Write letters, emails, protest in the streets, talk about it with friends and neighbors and educate people on it. But don't be afraid to get out there and do something about it.

Everyday we lose another opportunity to a freedom or choice that should be ours by right.
 
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/10/06/contraceptive.resignation.reut/index.html

Second expert resigns over FDA delay
Says contraceptive's over-the-counter status mired by politics

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- A second medical expert has resigned to protest the Food and Drug Administration's failure to allow over-the-counter sales of a "morning-after" contraceptive made by Barr Pharmaceuticals Inc.

Dr. Frank Davidoff, an internal medicine specialist, said Thursday he stepped down from his position as a consultant to the FDA's Nonprescription Drugs Advisory Committee about a month ago. Members of that panel and another committee of outside experts voted 23-4 in December 2003 to recommend non-prescription sales of the contraceptive, called Plan B.

The FDA so far has rejected that advice, as well as support from the agency's scientific staff. Then-FDA Commissioner Lester Crawford announced August 26 he was postponing a decision indefinitely and taking public comment for 60 days.

That delay "crossed the line for me," Davidoff said in an interview.

In his resignation letter, Davidoff said he wrote: "I can no longer associate myself with an organization that is capable of making such an important decision so flagrantly on the basis of political influence, rather than the scientific and clinical evidence."

Some conservative groups have lobbied fiercely to keep Plan B as a prescription-only product. Plan B is a set of pills that can prevent pregnancy if taken within 72 hours of sexual intercourse.

An FDA spokeswoman said Davidoff had been "a valued member of FDA's advisory committee" since 2001, and the agency "had hoped to continue using his services as an FDA consultant" after his term expired this year.

"His decision to resign as a consultant is an unfortunate loss of expertise as we work toward solving the complex policy and regulatory issues related to Plan B," she said.

Crawford said in August that officials still were grappling with how to keep a prescription requirement for girls younger than 17 while easing access for older women.

Davidoff's resignation, reported earlier this week by the Hartford Courant newspaper, follows the departure of Dr. Susan Wood, the FDA's top women's health official. Wood, who has a doctorate in biology, quit in August to protest the Plan B decision.

Davidoff, editor emeritus of the journal Annals of Internal Medicine, said he felt Plan B met all the criteria for an over-the-counter drug, including the requirements that users could understand instructions and use it properly without a doctor's guidance.

"As far as I was concerned, all the evidence presented to the committee, and we got a lot of it, ... was fully consistent with those requirements," he said.

For two years they have blocked it, pretty amazing that they can get away with these things.

Did you RTFA? 😕
 
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Based on this article, it sounds like the problem is not approving the drug - but rather, making it readily available off the shelf as opposed to needing a prescription.

This pill doesn't just magically make the fertilized egg go away. It is quite traumatizing to your body when you take it, and takes some time to get over it. I can understand from a completely scientific and clinical perspective why you wouldn't want people to pick it up without doctor intervention.

We really need to come up with a better way than condoms, oral contraceptives, and morning after pills. If we could just find out what chemical or enzyme could suppress sperm production and egg release without interfering with the rest of the hormones, then everyone could get an implant at puberty...

it's not significantly more traumatizing then the regular birth control pill... same chemicals, same fundamental mechanism. i think you're probably confused with RU-486, which is an abortion pill?
 
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/10/06/contraceptive.resignation.reut/index.html

Crawford said in August that officials still were grappling with how to keep a prescription requirement for girls younger than 17 while easing access for older women.

For two years they have blocked it, pretty amazing that they can get away with these things.

Did you RTFA? 😕

Sorry, but I can figure out a way around that problem in less than one minute. That's not a reason to delay this for 2 years.
 
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/10/06/contraceptive.resignation.reut/index.html

Crawford said in August that officials still were grappling with how to keep a prescription requirement for girls younger than 17 while easing access for older women.

For two years they have blocked it, pretty amazing that they can get away with these things.

Did you RTFA? 😕

Sorry, but I can figure out a way around that problem in less than one minute. That's not a reason to delay this for 2 years.

Your solution?
 
I just don't get why people feel the need to impose their beliefs on others. If you don't believe in contraception, then don't use it. If you don't believe in abortion then don't have one, but there are 300 million people in this country. Why not let everyone choose what is right for them?
 
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/10/06/contraceptive.resignation.reut/index.html

Crawford said in August that officials still were grappling with how to keep a prescription requirement for girls younger than 17 while easing access for older women.

For two years they have blocked it, pretty amazing that they can get away with these things.

Did you RTFA? 😕

Sorry, but I can figure out a way around that problem in less than one minute. That's not a reason to delay this for 2 years.

Your solution?

How do you prevent minors from obtaining alcohol?
 
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/10/06/contraceptive.resignation.reut/index.html

Crawford said in August that officials still were grappling with how to keep a prescription requirement for girls younger than 17 while easing access for older women.

For two years they have blocked it, pretty amazing that they can get away with these things.

Did you RTFA? 😕

Sorry, but I can figure out a way around that problem in less than one minute. That's not a reason to delay this for 2 years.

Your solution?

How do you prevent minors from obtaining alcohol?

How do you make exceptions for minors, especially in cases of rape and incest? The alcohol control regulations make none - should there be none for this medication?
 
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
I just don't get why people feel the need to impose their beliefs on others. If you don't believe in contraception, then don't use it. If you don't believe in abortion then don't have one, but there are 300 million people in this country. Why not let everyone choose what is right for them?

Because that would be too much like PERSONAL RESPONSABILITY! and we all know that is not something that is politically correct at this time in our country! 🙁
 
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Based on this article, it sounds like the problem is not approving the drug - but rather, making it readily available off the shelf as opposed to needing a prescription.

This pill doesn't just magically make the fertilized egg go away. It is quite traumatizing to your body when you take it, and takes some time to get over it. I can understand from a completely scientific and clinical perspective why you wouldn't want people to pick it up without doctor intervention.

We really need to come up with a better way than condoms, oral contraceptives, and morning after pills. If we could just find out what chemical or enzyme could suppress sperm production and egg release without interfering with the rest of the hormones, then everyone could get an implant at puberty...


You mean like...not having sex?
:roll:

I dunno about you, but I don't like the idea of ingesting drugs that counteract my reproductive system, and I most definately am not letting -anyone- implant -anything- into me. They'll lose their hand before they do.
 
Originally posted by: sixone
How do you make exceptions for minors, especially in cases of rape and incest? The alcohol control regulations make none - should there be none for this medication?

That's not the point. I was simply stating that not agreeing on how/whether to make this available only to adults is not a reason to hold it up for two years.

There are many ways exceptions could be made.
1) doctors permission
2) parent or guardians permission
3) pharmacist could provide based on analyzing the situation

Personally, I think a minor should be allowed to obtain this with a doctor?s permission or possibly even less.


 
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