Sex offender sentencing

6000SUX

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It's very simple: what do you think should happen to someone who rapes a child? Just so that there is no discussion involving edge cases, such as 18-year-olds sleeping with their 17-year-old significant others (which are quite easy to solve anyway), I will stipulate that the crime in question is the rape of a ten-year-old boy or girl by a forty-year-old man or woman.
 

Mrvile

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To me, it really depends on the situation. The 10-40 one to me deserves life in prison. I don't believe in the death sentance unless a first degree murder is involved.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: Mrvile
To me, it really depends on the situation. The 10-40 one to me deserves life in prison. I don't believe in the death sentance unless a first degree murder is involved.

I think that raping a child usually destroys their life in a worse way than merely killing them. It usually creates a lifetime of pain.
 

Mrvile

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: Mrvile
To me, it really depends on the situation. The 10-40 one to me deserves life in prison. I don't believe in the death sentance unless a first degree murder is involved.

I think that raping a child usually destroys their life in a worse way than merely killing them. It usually creates a lifetime of pain.

It is scarring but it's still not murder. If no deaths occurred, the death sentance should not be considered. An eye for an eye, but not any more.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: Mrvile
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: Mrvile
To me, it really depends on the situation. The 10-40 one to me deserves life in prison. I don't believe in the death sentance unless a first degree murder is involved.

I think that raping a child usually destroys their life in a worse way than merely killing them. It usually creates a lifetime of pain.

It is scarring but it's still not murder. If no deaths occurred, the death sentance should not be considered. An eye for an eye, but not any more.

"An eye for an eye" was the basis of the first legal system, the Code of Hammurabi. Sadly, it fails in many situations: fails to correctly punish, to serve as a deterrent, and to even be applicable. One of these cases is rape, especially the rape of a child. You cannot revert a child rapist to childhood and rape them, and it would serve no purpose to do so.

Here the functioning of society and the rights of law-abiding citizens should outweigh all. Child rape should be prevented at all costs. The crime is too horrible to let it be repeated, as is genocide.
 

illusion88

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The death sentance hardly detours crime anyways. It's not going to slow the ammount of statutory rape incidents.
 

SampSon

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That's one of the most extreme cases of sexual assult, though I do not think a death penalty is necessary.
 

The Batt?sai

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
It's very simple: what do you think should happen to someone who rapes a child? Just so that there is no discussion involving edge cases, such as 18-year-olds sleeping with their 17-year-old significant others (which are quite easy to solve anyway), I will stipulate that the crime in question is the rape of a ten-year-old boy or girl by a forty-year-old man or woman.

what about a 25 year old man and a 16 year old that looks 21?

:confused:
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: SampSon
That's one of the most extreme cases of sexual assult, though I do not think a death penalty is necessary.

Agreed. It would serve society well to just have a mandatory life sentence for rape of a child, as it would avoid distressing those who are against capital punishment. The number of pedophiles out there is not too large to support this. I'd gladly pay an extra tax for such sentencing.
 

Mrvile

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As in the discussion over this earlier this week, it's agreeable that no punishment can or will work effectively as a deterent for most criminals. They commit crime on the basis that they will not get caught, and with this mentality no punishment will stop them.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
It's very simple: what do you think should happen to someone who rapes a child? Just so that there is no discussion involving edge cases, such as 18-year-olds sleeping with their 17-year-old significant others (which are quite easy to solve anyway), I will stipulate that the crime in question is the rape of a ten-year-old boy or girl by a forty-year-old man or woman.

what about a 25 year old man and a 16 year old that looks 21?

:confused:

Squarely off topic. I hope you didn't choose a soft sentence on this basis. I am unambiguously talking about the rape of a child by an adult.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: Mrvile
As in the discussion over this earlier this week, it's agreeable that no punishment can or will work effectively as a deterent for most criminals. They commit crime on the basis that they will not get caught, and with this mentality no punishment will stop them.

How can you say that? A mandatory life or death sentence absolutely stops a criminal from repeating a crime. One of the key points about pedophilia is that it is impossible to cure. Deterrence may not work for pedophiles, but a life sentence surely would improve the safety level in our society.
 

The Batt?sai

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: quasarsky
Originally posted by: 6000SUX
It's very simple: what do you think should happen to someone who rapes a child? Just so that there is no discussion involving edge cases, such as 18-year-olds sleeping with their 17-year-old significant others (which are quite easy to solve anyway), I will stipulate that the crime in question is the rape of a ten-year-old boy or girl by a forty-year-old man or woman.

what about a 25 year old man and a 16 year old that looks 21?

:confused:

Squarely off topic. I hope you didn't choose a soft sentence on this basis. I am unambiguously talking about the rape of a child by an adult.

actually i voted for death sentence before i saw the torture option

:confused:

it was fun when i was working at the jail to hear fellow inmates insulting each other when i found out both were child molesters, so one calling the other a child molester was the funniest hypocrisy ever :D

 

BrokenVisage

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So you're going to touture a 47 year old who looks at kiddie porn to death too? It's a good thing laws are made by politicians... there I said it!
 

DAGTA

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Well, in the USA , it's not that easy.

If it's a man, you must torture him and kill him.

If it's a woman, she should get house arrest for three years and the nerds of ATOT will fap to her.
 

Reckoner

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
Well, in the USA , it's not that easy.

If it's a man, you must torture him and kill him.

If it's a woman, she should get house arrest for three years and the nerds of ATOT will fap to her.

 

illusion88

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Originally posted by: Mrvile
As in the discussion over this earlier this week, it's agreeable that no punishment can or will work effectively as a deterent for most criminals. They commit crime on the basis that they will not get caught, and with this mentality no punishment will stop them.

How can you say that? A mandatory life or death sentence absolutely stops a criminal from repeating a crime. One of the key points about pedophilia is that it is impossible to cure. Deterrence may not work for pedophiles, but a life sentence surely would improve the safety level in our society.

And be a terrible burden on the tax payers. It costs the state alot of money to hold a prisoner for life/carry out the death sentance.

On a more general note, I truely believe that most people can be rehabilitated. Perhaps our prisons aren't working as well as we would like, bur I believe that somone can come out of prison and live a civil life afterwards.
 

6000SUX

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Perhaps someone can explain something to me.

Why would anyone vote for a judge to be able to give probation to a 40-year-old who rapes a 10-year-old?
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Perhaps someone can explain something to me.

Why would anyone vote for a judge to be able to give probation to a 40-year-old who rapes a 10-year-old?

The typical sentence is about 6-10 years in prison for first time offenses of sexual assualt / rape.

They typical sentence for indeceny / fondling is 10 years probation, unless multiple victims are involved.

In both cases the perp is branded for life nationwide as a "Sex Offender". :shocked: