Sex and Religion

[Arkitech]

I'd really like to hear people's opinion on this one.


For the most part sex and religion does'nt mix to well. From what I've read in the bible sex is only appropriate if you're married and if its between male and female. But we all know that the majority of people in the world right now don't limit themselves to that.


In most cases human sexuality seems to a stronger desire than religious beliefs. Many churches/religions are experiencing a decrease in members while on the other hand we are seeing more people being open and more secure in their sexuality.


Whats your thoughts

 

[GTaudiophile]

The Devil is winning. People are weak.

Sex might be taking over, but so is AIDS/STDs and abortions.

As for me, I have no problem waiting to have sex until I get married. If I truly love the person, then why should I not give her the gift of my virginity? Besides, I'd rather keep it my pants than have it fall off due to some disease.

 

[Modeps]

I'm 23 years old and a virgin. My girlfriend and I have both decided to wait till we are married, which with any luck will be in 2 years. I was always brought up with the ideals that it is special and not something to take for granted. I know I'm probably the only one who thinks like this, but whatever. ya'll can piss off

 

[blakeatwork]

I think the decision to have sex or not rests on the person's own morals, not what their particular deity might have said a couple thousand years ago.

(Besides, if most deities haven't knocked the boots, they don't know what they're missing...

 

[Rifter]

This is kinda funny, in my own social group i have seen the religious guy break down over the past 5-10 years. I started off my sexual life in HS and i had a bunch of Religious freinds that all said what are you doing you should wait till you are married blah blah blah. Now 10 years later they have all broken down and doen it themselves lol. And they tell me i had the right idea from the beggining.

 

[Aelus]

Most of the leaders of the major religions are 60+, which means they were brought up in the 30ies and 40ies, and it means they'll have different morals than people were were brought up more recently.

Basically, if you're into religion, listen to the advice of the leader, ponder it, and make your own decision.

that being said, i'm a christian, and i don't believe in abstaining until marriage, but i also don't believe in f*cking around, i believe in living in a responsable way, while enjoying life.

Aelus

 

[huanaku]

Most of the leaders of the major religions are 60+, which means they were brought up in the 30ies and 40ies, and it means they'll have different morals than people were were brought up more recently.

I view that as a sad statement. I waited until marriage, and think I have the same morals as *most* of these religious leaders -- don't steal, don't lie, be nice, be loyal, etc ...

 

[TripleJ]

Sex and religion? I changed to sex and drugs a long time ago. It achieves the same desired effect.




<<Most of the leaders of the major religions are 60+, which means they were brought up in the 30ies and 40ies, and it means they'll have different morals than people were were brought up more recently.

I view that as a sad statement. I waited until marriage, and think I have the same morals as *most* of these religious leaders -- don't steal, don't lie, be nice, be loyal, etc ...>>

I think he's refering to to people's sexuality and similar persuasions.

 

[Aelus]

<< Most of the leaders of the major religions are 60+, which means they were brought up in the 30ies and 40ies, and it means they'll have different morals than people were were brought up more recently.

I view that as a sad statement. I waited until marriage, and think I have the same morals as *most* of these religious leaders -- don't steal, don't lie, be nice, be loyal, etc ... >>



i meant morals as in sexual morals, not general morals, sorry if i didn't make myself clear.

i just don't understand what good abstaining till marriage does, that if you really like someone, and that person really likes you, why shouldn't you be able to have sex? and also the ridiculous statements that you should only have sex if you're attempting to get a child by the pope? he's a very wise man, and i deeply respect him, but statements like that just show that he was brought up in another era.

Aelus

 

[Renob]

I went to a catholic high school and would like to say thank God, most of those catholic school girls were VERY nasty and I mean that in a GOOD way.

 

[Kenazo]

I?m not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It?s going to be decisive.

Was this an actual GWB quote? it was in GTaudiophile's sig.

anyway. I wanna wait. Why do I have to be in the "immoral" majority? Maybe I'm just an anti-conformist, but I believe that I can wait if I so chose. So what if God told me to wait till marriage, should I sleep around just to spite him? That sounds kinda dumb.

 

[TripleJ]

<<Was this an actual GWB quote? it was in GTaudiophile's sig.>>

Yah. There's a thread on it around the place.

 

[Noriaki]

<< If I truly love the person, then why should I not give her the gift of my virginity? >>

Bwa hahahahahahaha. I'm sorry GT, I'm not laughing at the sentiment, I think it's a very nice sentiment. But a guy's virginity is hardly a gift. That 30 seconds of mad sex before you shoot off and leaving your woman wondering what the f*ck happened, is not exactly the best wedding gift I'd want to give someone.

 

[GTaudiophile]

<< I'm sorry GT, I'm not laughing at the sentiment, I think it's a very nice sentiment. But a guy's virginity is hardly a gift. That 30 seconds of mad sex before you shoot off and leaving your woman wondering what the f*ck happened, is not exactly the best wedding gift I'd want to give someone. >>



That's kinda funny when you put it that way. While I plan on...huhem...lasting longer...it's the thought/effort/devotion that matters in this case.

 

[TripleJ]

I'll explain my position a little better. Make your own decision. Not by god. By you. You are you. You should be able to make your own mind up on it. Who says god is right anyway? You are an individual, with thoughts of your own. I have many beliefs that fit with god's apparent preachings. But I didn't get them from him. I made up my own mind on what my morals are, because that is what I believe is right in making me a better person. God is god and I am I(Not that I think that god exists, I still treat him as a seperate entity, or more precicely, a non-entity).

 

[loosbrew]

me, im not religous at all, i dont even give the idea of a god the time of day never mind focusing my life around it...but.... ive only had sex with one woman and shes the woman that ive been with since we were 15 and will be with for the res of my life. youre not evil for wanting to do what youre naturally meant to do, its just that we, as humans, have to be careful and be smart, unlike animals.

loosbrew

 

[ttn1]

I think modern christianity, and most religions, portrays sexuality the way it does mainly to curb spread of diseases.

If you only ever have sex with the person you marry, the chances of getting an STD are very slim.

That said, I think many people twist the definition of sex to their own desires. I have had many friends who have "waited" until they got married. Funny thing is that they only considered standard missionary position heterosexual intercourse as sex. Everything else was fair game.

Anyone have thoughts on this.

ttn1

 

[Noriaki]

<< That's kinda funny when you put it that way. While I plan on...huhem...lasting longer...it's the thought/effort/devotion that matters in this case. >>

Yeah I understand I was just being silly
I to am a virgin. I'm not exactly waiting for marriage, since I'm not religious, but I don't want to have sex with someone I'm not in love with, I understand what you meant, I was just joking around

 

[JackBurton]

Sex and Religion...Yes, you should definitely NOT have sex with your priest.

 

[notfred]

<< That's kinda funny when you put it that way. While I plan on...huhem...lasting longer...it's the thought/effort/devotion that matters in this case. >>



The "lasting longer" part's not gonna happen the first time

 

[johndoe52]

I'm still questioning my faith at this point. I'll be doing some research into it but until then I have no problem with it. And I have respect for people that can stay a virgin and have faith cause it's something I just can't do. Now about finding someone else....at this point that's a completely different story.

 

[mdennison]

lmao@thread

 

[Caminetto]

You might consider that an underlying theme in the major religions is that one of the purposes of man on the earth, to put it simply, is to get the spirit in control of the flesh. This extends from the priests of the people who wrote the dead sea scrolls being celibate men, to Ghandi's struggles to control his desire, even for his wife. But I guess if you and your friends think sex is cool, then it must be the truth.