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Setup guides regarding some specific components requested...

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ahmadka

Senior member
Hi guys...well, hopefully, my new PC parts should be arriving in a few days now, so I thought I should do some revision, on how the fitting goes for the specific items that I have ordered...

The items I have ordered are listed in my Profile....

I am specially looking for an installation guide for the casing: Aerocool AeroEngine II Casing....

Also I have some basic questions regarding my first build:

1) Can someone please tell me the difference between the S/PDIF in/out connectors and the 6 colourful connectors, all on the port side if SLI-DR..

2) It has been mentioned that its better to assemble the motherboard outside first, and the move it into the casing.......if I do this, the components attached on board might get sudden movements/jolts when I am shifting about the mobo inside the casing, to fit it in....wouldnt these movements cause harm to the components attached ??

Thanx in advance....

EDIT: Also, if you happen to have manuals (preferably in PDF format) for any of these items, please send them my way ...
 
Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon
http://www.mechbgon.com/build/index.html
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well thats a nice link...really good pictures and all, but it doesnt cover any of the components I have bought...secondly, the casing is not the same as mine also...

i am not too much concerned about stuff that installs into the motherboard...i am more concerned about stuff that installs elsewhere...so I am looking for guides for this purpose...

these include:

A guide featuring Aerocool Aeroengine II Casing (main part)
A guide featuring installation of the OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU...since my casing doesnt come with a PSU 😀..

as always, thanx in advance...
 
Dude chill for a sec, install of a psu is very simple you don't need a guide to install it, you need common sense and some tools. What do you ned help with installing, most will only go in one slot, the only exception to these are the HDD and DVD drive, your ram will only go in one way, same for ur graphics card. Im not real sure what kind of a guide you are looking for mechBgon's has a good guide there. what more do you want something specific to ur system?



Will G.
 
Originally posted by: ahmadka
Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon
http://www.mechbgon.com/build/index.html
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well thats a nice link...really good pictures and all, but it doesnt cover any of the components I have bought...secondly, the casing is not the same as mine also...

i am not too much concerned about stuff that installs into the motherboard...i am more concerned about stuff that installs elsewhere...so I am looking for guides for this purpose...

these include:

A guide featuring Aerocool Aeroengine II Casing (main part)
A guide featuring installation of the OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU...since my casing doesnt come with a PSU 😀..

as always, thanx in advance...
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psu attaches like any other ..your case

 
ahmadka, even though that tutorial and another 1/2 dozen you can google up may not be showing your exact components, the process and sequence of installation is all relative.

I understand your anxiety and trepidation, but using the aforementioned tutorial and common electrical/mechanical sense/abilities will see you through.

It has been mentioned that its better to assemble the motherboard outside first, and the move it into the casing.......if I do this, the components attached on board might get sudden movements/jolts when I am shifting about the mobo inside the casing, to fit it in....wouldnt these movements cause harm to the components attached ??
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The reason for this is ao you don't put undue stress on your motherboard, installing your processor then hsf and then RAM, all take a certain amount of force, doing this outside the case prevents stress and flexing to your mobo if you do it on a firm surface with something like the foam pad and esd bag that your mobo came in as a cushion underneath. Those are the only components you should place into/onto prior to mounting your mobo in the case. The installation of the video card would happen once the mobo is in the case.

Keep in mind that everything up to this point should be securely serewed/held in place. So keeping in mind this is your first build, rest assured that there are aren't any parts that are just going to fly off while you place it in the case on top of the standoffs that you should've already put in place. You then make sure all the ports that feed through the I/O shield line up and then put the screws in that secure your mobo to the case or mobo tray. I prefer to put the all in partially tight and once all are in i check alignment and then tighten them down.

I know this doesn't answer all your questions, but first time jitters are common even if people don't admit to them. Also, most components will give you some sort of instructions for their product, they just won't be very comprehensive, like you want a PDF File, the most info comes from your Mobo Manual, that's the one that covers the most info, do not lose track of it.

that's my .0002, hope all goes well for you and just enjoy your build.

Happy Holidays;
DLM









 
I have a tip for your particular motherboard. It has four power receptacles, and I've numbered them in this pic. The one marked 1 is easily overlooked.
 
ok thanx a lot folks 😀

the reason i am asking a guide for the casing is because every casing is a little bit different from others...they all do the same basic thing, but they can have different ways of doing it...for example, some use screws, some use these rubber risers, etc.. the method for installing drives and HDDs can be slightly different, etc...

i am concerned about installing the power supply because i dont see any PSU holders in the Aerocool AeroEngine II casing...so i am just wondering as to how the PSU hangs up there 😛....

needless to say, thanx for all the help 😀
 
The power supply is normally held in place by four screws through the rear of the case. You have a computer right now, so take a look at the rear of it and you'll probably see what's up, unless it's some kind of proprietary design.
 
after all this time of people reassuring you there's nothing to be concerned about, you're still freekin' about something that you'll have to do every ttime you build a rig (please click on URL
http://www.3dxtreme.net/images/reviews/...%20AeroEngine%20II%20Case/IMG_1901.jpg

do you see four holes surrounding the large opening? on the right side of the photo, one @ the lower left of the opening and one along the left top, but 1-2 inches in from the edge? i'm not talkin' slots or slotted holes, just holes. now pick up your PSU, if you've rec'd yet and you see the hole pattern will match up, you just have to screw the screws in from the outside, through the holes in the case and into threaded holes in your PSU...

do you get it?

 
yeah i see what you mean...questions then:

1)the OCZ will fit into these screw positions exactly ?? I mean, there is a standard position defined for the screws on a mobo, and a PSU ??
2)supposing the PSU gets properly screwed in, in the 4 screw position on the casing's back....now since it has only been screwed from the back, and not from the front, doesnt that mean the PSU will be hanging a little inside the casing.....the position of the PSU cud be unstable, if it isnt screwed somewhere inside the casing....

EDIT:

just noticed this right now...

have a look at this picture...these are the ports of motherboard..

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2458/ioportsib5.jpg

now have a look at the casing's back..(same picture as above)

http://www.3dxtreme.net/images/reviews/...%20AeroEngine%20II%20Case/IMG_1901.jpg

as far as I can tell, there is not enough space for all the ports in the casing...what should I do ???
 
ahmadka, since i now feel that no matter how many answers are given to you to belay your anxiety, you'll continue to come up with even more questions, so once again i'll say Merry Christmas and have a wonderful holiday season and feel assured the rest of the AT Forum Community will answer your questions...
 
Originally posted by: ahmadka
yeah i see what you mean...questions then:

1)the OCZ will fit into these screw positions exactly ?? I mean, there is a standard position defined for the screws on a mobo, and a PSU ??
2)supposing the PSU gets properly screwed in, in the 4 screw position on the casing's back....now since it has only been screwed from the back, and not from the front, doesnt that mean the PSU will be hanging a little inside the casing.....the position of the PSU cud be unstable, if it isnt screwed somewhere inside the casing....
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It's OK. The metal is strong enough not to sag.


EDIT:

just noticed this right now...

have a look at this picture...these are the ports of motherboard..

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2458/ioportsib5.jpg

now have a look at the casing's back..(same picture as above)

http://www.3dxtreme.net/images/reviews/...%20AeroEngine%20II%20Case/IMG_1901.jpg

as far as I can tell, there is not enough space for all the ports in the casing...what should I do ???
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You should read every page of my guide for newbie computer builders, and then you'll know the answer 🙂 You are building a standard ATX computer, like the guide shows how to do, so even though it uses an older parts kit, the core knowledge is still the same.

For this particular question, start about halfway down this page where the disembodied hand is holding the orange screwdriver. 🙂

 
ok, i just had a look at your guide...and i must say its excellent for newbies....i really apologise for ignoring it earlier on....will definitely try to find time tomorrow to read it hopefully, as i am really tired right 😀
 
Your mobo will come with a new back plate to replace the one that is there, so you will have nothing to worry about. And yes the PSU screw pattern is standard.



Will G.
 
OK, my stuff will hopefully arrive tomorrow (finally!!) and so I have just a few last Q's:

1) Is it recommended to do run Memtest in the initial boots of the system to check the RAM for errors ? Cant it be done once the computer is fully assembled ?

2) Also, how long does it take you guys to build a complete computer from scratch ??

thanx in advance..
 
Blain silly, I can have a pc physically built in less than an hr the worst part is the install of all patches and such making sure drivers are installed and patches are put in place..


will G.
 
hmm... ok thanx for the suggestion guys...

wont update the bios right now then hopefully

OK, the good news:

The stuff has arrived !!!!!

also..

My Exams have finished !!!

🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Q.1

regarding memtest, i thought of a slight alternative..

you said that memtest should be run to check the RAM *before* installing windows, etc...

so I just want to confirm...that memtest is performed AFTER you install everything into the casing, but BEFORE you install any OS..Right ??

And if this is the case, then that means that the longer job is the memtest job, since it requires overnight activity...but the stuff before that is pretty much hands on work right,,...which should take like 4-5 hours for me I guess...

Q.2

Also, are the RAM timings the only setting that needs to be set in BIOS, other than the basic stuff (memtest setting, boot sequence, ESCD, cant think of anything else)..??
 
ahmadka...may i ask a very elementry question? why are you going to run memtest on brand new ram? why not build your rig and if you feel uou need to then go head (not much different than do a system burn-in. just being curious and am always eager to learn.
 
OK....well....got some news for ya....

ITS ASSEMBLED, AND
WORKING !!!!

HOOOOORAAAYYYYY
!!!!



Well, its official, AhmadKA's Dream PC is Live 'n' Kickin' *** !!! First, I would like to thank each and everyone of you, for helping me out is soo many different ways !!! Thankyou for putting up to my questions, and thankyou for guiding me through !! Thankyou VERY MUCH !! I am VERY HAPPY today !!

Also, in case you are wondering, I did not actually do the installation myself. I planned to bring this computer technician from my uni, who could help me out in installing all the stuff. In the end, he ended up doing all the hands on work lol 😀 .... I just pointed out stuff my the guides here and there, and watched over what he was doing ...

Hey, check out the pics I took with my camera, during the installation and the final result:

http://rapidshare.com/files/9131741/MyDreamPC.rar

Anyways, I am now gonna give a detailed log of the entire installation procedure, and then will ask some questions...

Contents:

1) The Procedure that was followed..
2) Some slight 'glitches' that I have detected..
3) Some Questions..

Let's begin:

Log:

Key:

Regular font means the step was done as in the procedure (A guide I got from DFI because of the DFI board)
Italics font means an additional step that was performed, which was NOT included in the procedure
Underlines means a step, that was included in the procedure, was missed out !!
Bold Means some information about a step, etc...
Here we go:

1. Familiarize yourself with how to assemble a PC generally, including:
http://www.mysuperpc.com/build/pc_parts_list.shtml
http://www.buildyourowncomputer.net/learntobuild.html
http://www.motherboards.org/articles...des/924_1.html
http://www.build-your-own-computer-tips.com/
2. Place motherboard on insulated surface (on wood table and pad shipped with motherboard)
3. Inspect and prepare motherboard, adjust jumpers as necessary.
4. Install CPU and heatsink.
5. Install 1 stick RAM in slot 2 (closest to edge) We installed
both sticks at the same time.
6. Install video card in top (closest to CPU) PCI-E slot.
6.b.--> PCI-Express Power Connector was connected to the VGA Card.
7. Connect power supply to motherboard ? be sure to make all four connections. (A minimal install outside the case is optional. You may wish to jump to Step 10).
8. Connect monitor.
9. Connect keyboard and mouse.
10. First boot ? use EZ Touch Power Switch on motherboard to turn power on. To enter BIOS, press DEL before the fourth diagnostic LED turns off and the DFI LanParty splashscreen appears. Load Optimized Defaults/save and exit.Only Motherboard was tested to work!
11. Install mobo and I/O shield in case.
12. Connect case and CPU fans to motherboard.
13. Install power supply (can be done before Step 11 if you prefer).
14. Connect power supply to motherboard ? be sure to make all four connections.
15. Connect front panel connectors and case fans to motherboard.
16. Connect monitor.
17. Connect keyboard and mouse.
18. Second boot. Enter BIOS. Set Update ESCD/will update DMI pool.
19. Install hard and optical drives.
20. Third boot. Can turn off Update ESCD.
21. Press DEL to enter BIOS
22. Input BIOS settings for RAM..
21.a. Load Optimized Settings
21.b. Change Date/Time
21.c. Change Boot order
23. Fourth boot.
-------------> Currently Over Here !!! <--------------


Summary

As you can see from above, two main steps were NOT performed, ESCD setting were not changed. RAM Timings were not changed....


Glitches/Problems I Noticed...

1) During installation, we tried installing the floppy drive, but the space in the bottom smaller compartment was a bit too small, and the floppy drive was not fitting in. Result: We did not install the Floppy Drive.... Glitch: By mistake we placed the Aerocool shield, upside down !!

2) Problem: The Power LED is turning on fine, but the HDD LED is NOT turning on. Possible causes could be
LED was not connected at all.
LED was connected on the wrong pins..Can this be dangerous ?

3) Errors Received on computer startup:
Something that went like 'Set CPU Frequency in CMOS'... Result: We tried restarting the PC, this removed this error, but now we got this second error:
Something that went like 'BBS Boot Sequence was changed' ... Result:We went into the BIOS and did steps 21.a. 21.b. 21.c. above....it removed the error...EDIT: temporarily...I was just restarting the system again and again a few times..and after a few restarts, this error has reappeared..I havent tried the 'Optimized Settings' option again yet though....

4) Glitch: I noticed the front 140mm fan was wobbling a little bit....I don't know if that is the way it is, or if there is a problem...

5) Glitch: The Power LED, is showing some behavior I have not seen before:
When I power on the system, the light turns on a little later, around when the LAN Party Logo is shown...not before..
When I switch off the system, by holding down the power button down for 5 seconds, the power LED turns off immediately as the 5 seconds time starts..and then at the end of the 5 seconds, the LED just blinks for a split second, and then turns off with the system itself....... Is this normal/dangerous?

6) Glitch: I read somewhere that when you install memory in dual channel, it is confirmed at system startup....that is, the memory is written as '-------- Dual Channel Memory'..but in my case, although the RAM is correctly detected (2GB), it does NOT say whether its Dual Channel or not.....How do I check if the system detects the RAM as Dual Channel or not ?

I have prepared a short video, showing some of the glitches/problems/errors listed above....please have a look at it and give me some suggestions on the following question..thanx...here's the video's link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/9160932/GlitchVideo.rar

Questions:

Main Question: What do I do next ? Do the ESCD stuff
I missed above ? Run Memtest ? Fix any of the above Problems (mention how please)..? What should I do next ?


Also, thanx again everyone 🙄 😛 😎
 
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