Settlers of Catan ????

Aquaman

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Hi,

I've heard some good things about this game and how fun it is to play but can someone give me a brief overview of what you do in this game? I don't know of anyone that has actually played this game but on other boards this seems to be the game to play. Also is there a computer version of this great board game available?

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

inataysia

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i've played it several times, but i've never been that impressed with it.

the game starts by shuffling hex-shaped terrain cards, and placing them on the table, surrounded by water hexes. this is Catan, i would surmise. then there are cardboard circles with numbers on them corresponding to the numbers you get when rolling 2d6, except 7. roll to see who places a town first. whoever does picks the prime location for his town, and places one road next to it. each person in succession places one town and one road, then when it gets to the last person, then it goes backwards back up to the first person, like 1 2 3 4 5 6 6 5 4 3 2 1. it's good to be 1, 2, and 6, because those people tend to get the best resources. towns are placed at the intersections of hexes.

play goes like this: the player rolls 2d6, say they roll 9. everybody with a town adjacent to a terrain that has a cardboard circle on it with the number 9 gets one of whatever resource that terrain makes. the resources let you build things like roads and towns, and upgrade towns to cities, and buy special cards that have various effects.

... i realize i'm going into way too much detail here.

anyway. the goal is to get 10 points. you get 1 point for every town you have, 2 for every city you have, 2 points if you have the longest road, 2 points if you have the highest number of a certain kind of card. however, once everybody has placed roads, the board becomes pretty static and it's just a matter of how well you placed your towns. like if you screwed up and failed to put a town near any mountains, you won't get any Ore unless you trade for it, which puts you at an insurmountable disadvantage.

my biggest nit to pick with the game is that there's no conquest of any kind. you're supposed to be enemies with your neighbors but it's like everybody is switzerland. there's no way to remove somebody's road if it's in your way, and there's no way to smack somebody down if they're about to win. the only thing you can do during the mid- and late-game is levy economic sanctions, which only delays the win for a few turns.

it's too much based on luck (good die rolls = good economy and you win, bad die rolls = bad economy and you lose)

don't lay down hard-earned cash on buying it, but if somebody you know has it, find some ppl and play a couple rounds, to get the sense of novelty out.
 

Aquaman

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Cool.......... thanks for the input. I'll keep that in mind & try to find someone that has it first.

Keep it coming :D

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

inataysia

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Originally posted by: Aquaman
Keep it coming :D

since you asked :D

i understand that there are a couple expansions or merely similar games, which are variations on the theme of settlers of catan, like "Seafarers of Catan" and one other, and i have no experience with them, so you might look at those

my favorite board game is civilization and the expansion to it, advanced civilization. although it takes a good 6-10 hours to play a good game of it, it really leaves you with a sense of "god i'm never going to play another board game as long as i live". despite this feeling, i keep coming back to it, and i actually won my most recent game, four players, starting as babylon (i think), ended up with ~4400 points.

 

Aquaman

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Yeah........ I saw the expansions on the mayfair games website. I also noticed that they have a card game version of Settlers. I'll ask the guy at the game store about that.

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Jzero

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On-line port of Settlers.
It even has rules so you can learn the basics.

Settlers is a great, great game. It is very fast-paced. It's social with all of the trading and bartering going on, and there is a lot of room for fun in screwing your opponents. The element of chance added by throwing the dice also gives it an edge over some other games I've played.

The Seafarers expansion essentially adds on ships which you can use to build roads (shipping lanes) across bodies of water. You usually get an extra victory point for being the first to make landfall and build a settlement on a new island. The Longest Road award is modified to be the longest continuous line of roads and/or boats. Also, there is a main island and the rest of the area is unexplored. As you send ships out into the unknown, you flip land hexes over to reveal a new island or more water.
Due to the potential fluxuation of available points, the games usually go to 12 when using the Seafarers.

I highly recommend Settlers.

Inataysia, have you been following the new Sid Meier's Civilization BG? It's like the board game based on the video game that was based on the board game....

 

inataysia

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Inataysia, have you been following the new Sid Meier's Civilization BG? It's like the board game based on the video game that was based on the board game....

.... !!!!!

haven't heard of it.... it could be very Bad, but then, it good be extremely Good.... linkage?
 

Aquaman

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Cool Jzero :D

Have you ever played the Cities & Knights add on to the game?

Also who makes the Civilization board game that you are talking about?

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

inataysia

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Originally posted by: Aquaman
Also who makes the Civilization board game that you are talking about?

it was published by Avalon Hill in 1980, they printer another run in 1981, but then AH went under and (sadly) nobody picked it up for another printing. new copies of the expansion set have been seen on ebay for $80 as it is more rare, whereas civilization itself usually goes for about $40 ish. i found the expansion new in shrink wrap for $10 at a flea market :D :D :D
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: inataysia
Originally posted by: Jzero
Inataysia, have you been following the new Sid Meier's Civilization BG? It's like the board game based on the video game that was based on the board game....

.... !!!!!

haven't heard of it.... it could be very Bad, but then, it good be extremely Good.... linkage?

I'll dig some up in the morning :) My friends and I have pretty much the same reaction...it will either be amazing or terrible. My brother has it pre-ordered. We shall know, soon enough :D

Aquaman: I forgot the other expansion :) I actually bought it for my brother, but we haven't yet played it :)
 

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the game rules. its point is to team up on whoever is winning to try to screw them over and extend the game so that you have a chance at winning. very fun. plus theres lots of nice mod ideas on the internet.
 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
the game rules. its point is to team up on whoever is winning to try to screw them over and extend the game so that you have a chance at winning. very fun. plus theres lots of nice mod ideas on the internet.

ha ha ha cool :D

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: inataysia
Originally posted by: Aquaman
Also who makes the Civilization board game that you are talking about?

it was published by Avalon Hill in 1980, they printer another run in 1981, but then AH went under and (sadly) nobody picked it up for another printing. new copies of the expansion set have been seen on ebay for $80 as it is more rare, whereas civilization itself usually goes for about $40 ish. i found the expansion new in shrink wrap for $10 at a flea market :D :D :D

Yeah I know of the original game but I was wondering if they re-released it? I used to play Squad Leader, Adavncecd Squad Leader, Third Riech & a lot of other great games from Avalon Hill. It's too bad they got bought out by Hasbro :(

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

Jzero

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[Yeah I know of the original game but I was wondering if they re-released it? I used to play Squad Leader, Adavncecd Squad Leader, Third Riech & a lot of other great games from Avalon Hill. It's too bad they got bought out by Hasbro :(

A lot of the Hasbro remakes were pretty good, including Stratego, History of the World and Cosmic Encounter and Acquire. The Star Wars Episode 1: The Queen's Gambit game was also pretty friggin amazing. There was a brief revival of some great games. I'm not sure what happened to all that.

 

Aquaman

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You can still get them but I find that they are mostly at hobbyist type shops. I remember seeing Axis & Allies Pacific & Europe as well as Risk 2010 (or whatever it was) at Toys R' Us ......... I guess they only get what they think is popular. I'd love to try the Battle Cry Civil War game though.

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Aquaman
 

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Amazing game. Soooo much fun and a great way to have your friends all hating each other by the end:)
 

ElFenix

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one day i'll come up with a settlers drinking game...
 

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Originally posted by: Aquaman
Cool Jzero :D

Have you ever played the Cities & Knights add on to the game?

Also who makes the Civilization board game that you are talking about?

Cheers,
Aquaman

Cities and knights is awesome - I would absolutely get this expansion when u have or plan to buy the settlers of catan.

Oh and number one rule in the game: There are no friends :)


As far as I know, Civilization is an entirely different game - its much much more complex and I heard it takes like 10-14 hrs to play
 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: B00ne
Originally posted by: Aquaman
Cool Jzero :D

Have you ever played the Cities & Knights add on to the game?

Also who makes the Civilization board game that you are talking about?

Cheers,
Aquaman

Cities and knights is awesome - I would absolutely get this expansion when u have or plan to buy the settlers of catan.

Oh and number one rule in the game: There are no friends :)


As far as I know, Civilization is an entirely different game - its much much more complex and I heard it takes like 10-14 hrs to play

What does the cities & knights add to the game?

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

B00ne

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cities and knights? no just kidding.
I will try, basically it adds alot to trading.

There are special cards of three different styles (money, books, and fabric), which are used to upgrade in the 3 differnt areas which in turn highers ur chances to receive certain special cards. ex upgrading the money thing gives u acces to certain political/military actions (intrigues), upgrading fabric gives acces to trade/resource related cards, upgrading book gives acces to certain building/resource related cards (book is the most valuable imho)

then the nights: u have to build knights to defend ur towns from the pirates. the pirates are as strong as the town count on the map, now when the pirates invade, players have to put nights against them. The number of nights that all players together station at least has to match the number of towns on the map to win against the pirates. If there are too few, the payer(s) that put up the least number of knights will loose a town...

oh and then there are metropoles ( safe from the pirates and give 2 extra winning points and make u look like the big guy on the map)

I dont know if I am good at explaining board games without the game in front of us in a foreign language but thats basically the difference.
makes the game less luck based I would say and is very different each time it is played - depending on how ppl do things
 

Anubis

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i plaied it a lot back in teh day when i plaied Magic a lot. we used to play it at teh Card Shop o went to when we werent playin magic. i dontremember any or teh rules. but i do remember it was fun as sh!t anf you hsd to trade with other people for sheep and wood. things like that.

basically just a really fun game worth playing
 

flavio

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Here is the place to go for board game info.

Settlers is actually number 6 AND 7 on their top 10. I'm real interested in checking out that Puerto Rico game as well.