GTS are already going for $449 and just OC, that is what I would do if I had the money to blow. Plenty of games are unplayable on x1900's with lots of candy.
I'd like to see your 7900GT play FEAR with settings maxed, 16xaa, 16xHQAF @ 1680x1050 or 1600x1200....
That's why people are upgrading.
It doesnt matter if there are no DX10 games, a card that is not limited in resolution or amount of eye candy makes this the most worthwhile upgrade since 9700P
Yeah, it's inevitable that the prices will go down after the first wave of "excitement". (about a couple of weeks)
Except for the hard core ...i would bet it all depends on where you are in the upgrade cycle.
I have an ati 9600 pro. the choice is obvious
(now i have been tracking the price of the 7900 GT for 1 year ...since i was gonna go to that 1)
In that time it has only dropped 100$. Based on that ....even buying an x800xl for 130$ cdn (while suffering performance) would not be worth it.
bottom line: I think more people have older hardware than you thought
This could be a big upgrade cycle for those hardware suppliers to really appreciate.
I have an ati 9600 pro. the choice is obvious
(now i have been tracking the price of the 7900 GT for 1 year ...since i was gonna go to that 1)
In that time it has only dropped 100$. Based on that ....even buying an x800xl for 130$ cdn (while suffering performance) would not be worth it.
bottom line: I think more people have older hardware than you thought
This could be a big upgrade cycle for those hardware suppliers to really appreciate.
Early adopters always pay more...that's why. Plus there are alot of 9800, 6800 folks still out there... compared to the debut price of the 7800..the G80 is a bargain.
Flexy: You sort of make my point for me - the games won't be out for months. I can indeed look a few months down the road, and I see a time when the games you're mentioning are out, and G80 is far cheaper.
Matt: I wasn't saying my card could run everything at any res, I was saying I think the smart upgrade is to a X1900XT, if I wanted to buy a new card. I could get it cheap, especially used, and I think it will depreciate less.
I guess I can see the really high AA arguement, but I sure don't know how much better things look at 8xAA than 4xAA. Maybe they're a huge gain that makes it all worthwile.....but I tend to think that once you're playing at 1920x1200 and max detail settings, you aren't unable to enjoy the game due to 'only' 4xAA.
Matt: I wasn't saying my card could run everything at any res, I was saying I think the smart upgrade is to a X1900XT, if I wanted to buy a new card. I could get it cheap, especially used, and I think it will depreciate less.
I guess I can see the really high AA arguement, but I sure don't know how much better things look at 8xAA than 4xAA. Maybe they're a huge gain that makes it all worthwile.....but I tend to think that once you're playing at 1920x1200 and max detail settings, you aren't unable to enjoy the game due to 'only' 4xAA.
I'm still using a plain vanilla 6800 is why i'm upgrading. It's really showing its age playing bf 2142, and oblivion is pretty much a joke to play with any candy It would cost me about the same to buy an 8800 now as it would an x1900xt and upgrade to an 8800 later when it's cheaper.
It would cost me about the same to buy an 8800 now as it would an x1900xt and upgrade to an 8800 later when it's cheaper.I don't understand these types of questions at all. But probably no amount of explaining will really fulfills most peoples lack of understanding on why to upgrade.
I have had a 6800 since it came out, I have been waiting a long time to upgrade and now with a core 2 duo and new generation video card this gives the most bang for the buck with longevity. It is a smart upgrade for me.
Why? To play games at full settings, not struggle with game performance but instead bath in the beauty of immersion "the way it's meant to be played".
Besides you have a 7900GT, why should you upgrade? You shouldn't, you should have waited for the 8800GT!
I have had a 6800 since it came out, I have been waiting a long time to upgrade and now with a core 2 duo and new generation video card this gives the most bang for the buck with longevity. It is a smart upgrade for me.
Why? To play games at full settings, not struggle with game performance but instead bath in the beauty of immersion "the way it's meant to be played".
Besides you have a 7900GT, why should you upgrade? You shouldn't, you should have waited for the 8800GT!
I am getting a 8800GTX for the better IQ and faster frame rates at 1920 x 1200.
I built a Conroe system two months ago. At that time I purchased an eVGA 7900GTX knowing full well that the new cards would be out within 90 days. I completed an eVGA step up so the 8800GTX is only going to cost me $263.51.
I built a Conroe system two months ago. At that time I purchased an eVGA 7900GTX knowing full well that the new cards would be out within 90 days. I completed an eVGA step up so the 8800GTX is only going to cost me $263.51.
Serious Question: Why are people upgrading to G80?
Temporary insanity? To make other people jealous?
Temporary insanity? To make other people jealous?
Should I replace my EVGA 7900GTO for the GTS or GTX? I can trade it in to EVGAs website using their trade up program and get $250 off. Worth it?
Haha..the X800XL wasn't too bad in it's day, but it's been ages since it came out in terms of GPU cycles.
Easy upgrade justification = running an older mid-range (X800XL) card and you've since upgraded your CPU to Core2 Duo, you're running Vista and you're not running 1024x768 anymore. Only DX10 card that's got enough muscle to run insane rates at 1600x1200 and above with DX10 support is the 8800 series. It's not like the ATI reply is right around the corner either....
If you want the best for current and titles coming out in the next couple of months you've got a 8800 on your mind. Is it worth it? depends on how much you care about your card depreciating over a month or so :laugh: I'm overdue, but I'll probably end up with a GTS
Performs like 7900GTX SLI/X1950 Crossfire but a few hundred less.
Seriously, what's not to like about a card that lets you play at 1920x1200, everything maximized, perhaps even 16XAA while maintaining a minimum FPS around 60? Or bumping it to 2560x1600 with measly 4XAA?
It is super-expensive but it's actually a pretty good deal considering the knockout performance. If you have a 24"-30" LCD, it is simply amazing. And it's targeted exactly at those people.
Seriously, what's not to like about a card that lets you play at 1920x1200, everything maximized, perhaps even 16XAA while maintaining a minimum FPS around 60? Or bumping it to 2560x1600 with measly 4XAA?
It is super-expensive but it's actually a pretty good deal considering the knockout performance. If you have a 24"-30" LCD, it is simply amazing. And it's targeted exactly at those people.
Exactly. I've been very antsy especially when the 7800's came out. In my case, and I imagine quite a few others this upgrade is going to be a huge performance gain in games. The only question in my mind is what ps to buy now. My 400 watt pcp&c just isn't going to cut it anymore.
because they can?
theres alot of smart people here with good jobs, if they got the disposable income and their hobby is computers then why not spend what they worked hard for on the latest equipment?
alot of people dont buy things because they need them, they buy because they want them.
i have the desire to own a 8800GTX and if i actually owned a computer and had the money i wouldnt hesitate. i dont need a 8800, i could probably get away with a x1950pro, but want > need
theres alot of smart people here with good jobs, if they got the disposable income and their hobby is computers then why not spend what they worked hard for on the latest equipment?
alot of people dont buy things because they need them, they buy because they want them.
i have the desire to own a 8800GTX and if i actually owned a computer and had the money i wouldnt hesitate. i dont need a 8800, i could probably get away with a x1950pro, but want > need
i'm upgrading cause i can. i went from a 9700pro to 6800gt to x1900xtx to 7950gx2 to 8800gtx. i get freebies, so why the hell not?
my gtx won't be here til tuesday.
my gtx won't be here til tuesday.
That's exactly the view I've expressed. If I could get a G80 for free I would take it, but there are literally NO GOOD GAMES coming out that would make it worth upgrading from an overclocked x1900xtx. I bought the XTX for new games and still nothing has come out. So this time I'll wait
I think if I was filthy rich, I would probably have two 8800gtx's in sli right now....wouldnt you? If you have money, buy it! .....(and buy one for us poor poeple as well) hehe
Crysis is DX9 also......Originally posted by: flexy
But sooner or later there WILL be games which run only w/ DX10, AFAIk Crysis will be one of them, POSSIBLE ut2k7 and other high-end titles.
Look more a few months more down the road, pls
Here's why I bought the 8800GTX...
1) I'm building my first new PC in 5 years. Currently dealing with an Athlon 2000+, 6800GT (bought 2 years ago to try to extend life of computer).
2) I've never had the top-of-the-line video card, always mid-line at best. Always had to make sacrifices in video quality, especially with AA/AF. Did I lose any sleep over it? No, but there was always a part of me that wished I didn't have to.
3) My wife and I work hard, provide a good life for our kids, including one in college, and make decent to good money. Like the Loreal commercials..."Because I'm worth it."
1) I'm building my first new PC in 5 years. Currently dealing with an Athlon 2000+, 6800GT (bought 2 years ago to try to extend life of computer).
2) I've never had the top-of-the-line video card, always mid-line at best. Always had to make sacrifices in video quality, especially with AA/AF. Did I lose any sleep over it? No, but there was always a part of me that wished I didn't have to.
3) My wife and I work hard, provide a good life for our kids, including one in college, and make decent to good money. Like the Loreal commercials..."Because I'm worth it."
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