Serb PM Djindjic Dead After Shooting...

[Zim Hosein]

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=TJDYUXZMU545SCRBAEOCFFA?type=topNews&storyID=2367651

 

[Czar]

:Q

 

[iamwiz82]

Serbian Prime Minister Zoran Djindjic died in hospital on Wednesday after he was shot in the chest in an apparent assassination, a source from his party told Reuters

that goes without saying

Djindjic, 50, a reformer who played a large part in the downfall of former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, was shot in the chest by two large caliber sniper bullets fired from a distance, a police source said earlier.

 

[Kenazo]

just heard this on the news this morning. Sad thing was they devoted all of 5 seconds to this story then went to something on internet security for about a minute. wasn't WW1 started by someone assissanating a serb president?

 

[Bulk Beef]

wasn't WW1 started by someone assissanating a serb president?

Almost. A Serb assassinated the Austrian Archduke.

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: Kenazo
just heard this on the news this morning. Sad thing was they devoted all of 5 seconds to this story then went to something on internet security for about a minute. wasn't WW1 started by someone assissanating a serb president?

no, a serbian assassinated archduke Ferdinand.

damn, beaten to the punch.

 

[Kenazo]

thanks for reminding me. It's been a while since I needed to know that stuff... it all sort of drifts off with time.

 

[justint]

That guy was a thug and most likely deeply tied to the mafia. Wouldn't surprise me if this was a business deal gone bad. He will not be missed by the people.

 

[Stifko]

Originally posted by: justint
That guy was a thug and most likely deeply tied to the mafia. Wouldn't surprise me if this was a business deal gone bad. He will not be missed by the people.

huh ? I dunno about that, methinks you got the story wrong, friend. He was killed by thugs/gangsters. This man was very instrumental in getting Slobodan Milosevic deported to the War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague. Djindjic was a reformer and one of the good guys IMHO. His assassination is sickening to me and puts Serbia back into the catagory of an outlaw and mafia run country that it was trying desperately to get out of. He will be sorley missed by everyone that hopes Milosevic never sees sunshine again and wants to see Mladic and Karadic behind bars as well.

R.I.P. Zoran Djindjic, I hope that you don't die in vain.

 

[prontospyder]

I hope the reforms continue.

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: Czar
:Q

 

[kleinesarschloch]

that traitor had it coming to him.

 

[Infos]

VERY, very few people deserve to die.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Here is a BBC article with some more info about it/him. Top Story on their site.

 

[Gooberlx2]

I agree, this is definitely a loss for Serbia nad I only hope that the next person in line will continue the democratic reform.

that traitor had it coming to him.

Yeah this traitor to those with distaste for human and civil rights?

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

OK, this guy was stamping out crime and the mafia, that's why he got whacked. The formere Pres Molosivic is the one that let the mafia and crime lords run rampant in the country. Thou it is bad that he was killed, it won't lead to a war of any kind, cept maybe police vs, Mafia.

 

[Fencer128]

Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch
that traitor had it coming to him.

If you want people to sympathise with such claims, you have to back them up. Do you have a link?

Andy

 

[eplebnista]

Originally posted by: Czar
:Q

 

[kleinesarschloch]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I agree, this is definitely a loss for Serbia nad I only hope that the next person in line will continue the democratic reform.

that traitor had it coming to him.

Yeah this traitor to those with distaste for human and civil rights?

many things about yugoslavia have been grossly misrepresented in the western media. milosevic was not quite the monster, and djindjic was not quite the knight in shining armour, the truth is somewhere in the middle. kosovo was yugoslavia's war against muslim terrorists (sounds familiar?), and not the "worst genocide since WW2 blah blah". and what is this "democratic reform" i keep hearing about? AFAIK, there were democratic elections long before djindjic was elected, but the outcome was not quite what the EU and the USA expected. djindjic admitted himself that he extradited milosvic in exchange for a large, triple-digit million dollar amount (reparations for the illegal bombing which yugoslavia never received). that said, i do think that was the wrong way of dealing with djindjic.

 

[The Stigenator]

 

[exp]

That's a shame.

On a related note, does anyone know what is going on in the Balkans these days? It seems like I never hear anything about Bosnia or Kosovo these days (what with terrorism, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.). Is there still significant rebel action going on there? Have they made any progress toward rebuilding?

Anyone?

 

[Stifko]

Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I agree, this is definitely a loss for Serbia nad I only hope that the next person in line will continue the democratic reform.

that traitor had it coming to him.

Yeah this traitor to those with distaste for human and civil rights?

many things about yugoslavia have been grossly misrepresented in the western media. milosevic was not quite the monster, and djindjic was not quite the knight in shining armour, the truth is somewhere in the middle. kosovo was yugoslavia's war against muslim terrorists (sounds familiar?), and not the "worst genocide since WW2 blah blah". and what is this "democratic reform" i keep hearing about? AFAIK, there were democratic elections long before djindjic was elected, but the outcome was not quite what the EU and the USA expected. djindjic admitted himself that he extradited milosvic in exchange for a large, triple-digit million dollar amount (reparations for the illegal bombing which yugoslavia never received). that said, i do think that was the wrong way of dealing with djindjic.

So he made a deal for Slobo, so what ?

Serbia needed the money and Milosevic should have been handed over GRATIS ANYWAY. He deserves to rot in a cell for the remainer of his days. Slobodan is a true war criminal. Are you not hearing the testimony in his trial ? Witnesses and former army officers that got orders directly from him testifying of his orders to wipe out entire villages. Telephone conversations between Milosevic & Ratko Mladic intercepted (probably by the US) discussing the war campaign. Slobodan was and is exactly the monster and worse that the Western media has made him out to be. The rest of his cronies should be brought to justice too, and tried for their wrongdoings.

Kosovo is more than 80% Albanian, right ? The area is sacred for Serbs b/c the Turks kicked their butts there years ago. It is special land for them and they feel very very strongly about it, probably b/c of the defeat they suffered there. I am not saying that the land should be handed over to the Albanians, who are the "muslim terrorists" that you described, but some agreement has to be made there to avoid more conflict and bloodshed.

So the war in the former Yugoslavia wasn't the worst genocide since WW2 ? Where you get these crazy concepts and theories is a mystery to me.

 

[kleinesarschloch]

Originally posted by: Stifko

Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I agree, this is definitely a loss for Serbia nad I only hope that the next person in line will continue the democratic reform.

that traitor had it coming to him.

Yeah this traitor to those with distaste for human and civil rights?

many things about yugoslavia have been grossly misrepresented in the western media. milosevic was not quite the monster, and djindjic was not quite the knight in shining armour, the truth is somewhere in the middle. kosovo was yugoslavia's war against muslim terrorists (sounds familiar?), and not the "worst genocide since WW2 blah blah". and what is this "democratic reform" i keep hearing about? AFAIK, there were democratic elections long before djindjic was elected, but the outcome was not quite what the EU and the USA expected. djindjic admitted himself that he extradited milosvic in exchange for a large, triple-digit million dollar amount (reparations for the illegal bombing which yugoslavia never received). that said, i do think that was the wrong way of dealing with djindjic.

So he made a deal for Slobo, so what ?

Serbia needed the money and Milosevic should have been handed over GRATIS ANYWAY. He deserves to rot in a cell for the remainer of his days. Slobodan is a true war criminal. Are you not hearing the testimony in his trial ? Witnesses and former army officers that got orders directly from him testifying of his orders to wipe out entire villages. Telephone conversations between Milosevic & Ratko Mladic intercepted (probably by the US) discussing the war campaign. Slobodan was and is exactly the monster and worse that the Western media has made him out to be. The rest of his cronies should be brought to justice too, and tried for their wrongdoings.

Kosovo is more than 80% Albanian, right ? The area is sacred for Serbs b/c the Turks kicked their butts there years ago. It is special land for them and they feel very very strongly about it, probably b/c of the defeat they suffered there. I am not saying that the land should be handed over to the Albanians, who are the "muslim terrorists" that you described, but some agreement has to be made there to avoid more conflict and bloodshed.

So the war in the former Yugoslavia wasn't the worst genocide since WW2 ? Where you get these crazy concepts and theories is a mystery to me.

first of all, i don't think the court in den haag has any authority at all. it is very hypocrytical to be shifting all the blame and responsibility on one man who may or may not be responsible for what happened. i can tell you with certainty that for every atrocity commmited by serbian extremists, there was one by muslim and croatian extremists.

kosovo is a part of serbia, and has been for a very long time. it is sacred to them because that is where serbian civilization started. as recently as 50 years ago, the albanians were NOT in the majority there, and they are now mostly because of their high natality rate and in part because many serbs fled from there. albanian terrorist groups, which are nothing more than drug-dealing criminals have been trying to secede for quite some time now. they've been terrorizing civilians in yugoslavia and macedonia for the last 10 years, and they still continue to do so because jugoslavia has no rights to defend itself. links between the KLA and osama bin laden are also well-documented.

and yes, there have been worse "genocides" since WW2. lets take kosovo for example. from the start there were numbers like 50.000 dead civilians. then the numbers started gradually decresing until the last official count was something like 2800 dead, including combatants.

edit: btw, yugoslavia never got any money for reparations or for extraditing milosevic, so i guess the joke is on them.

 

[Stifko]

Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch

Originally posted by: Stifko

Originally posted by: kleinesarschloch

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I agree, this is definitely a loss for Serbia nad I only hope that the next person in line will continue the democratic reform.

that traitor had it coming to him.

Yeah this traitor to those with distaste for human and civil rights?

many things about yugoslavia have been grossly misrepresented in the western media. milosevic was not quite the monster, and djindjic was not quite the knight in shining armour, the truth is somewhere in the middle. kosovo was yugoslavia's war against muslim terrorists (sounds familiar?), and not the "worst genocide since WW2 blah blah". and what is this "democratic reform" i keep hearing about? AFAIK, there were democratic elections long before djindjic was elected, but the outcome was not quite what the EU and the USA expected. djindjic admitted himself that he extradited milosvic in exchange for a large, triple-digit million dollar amount (reparations for the illegal bombing which yugoslavia never received). that said, i do think that was the wrong way of dealing with djindjic.

So he made a deal for Slobo, so what ?

Serbia needed the money and Milosevic should have been handed over GRATIS ANYWAY. He deserves to rot in a cell for the remainer of his days. Slobodan is a true war criminal. Are you not hearing the testimony in his trial ? Witnesses and former army officers that got orders directly from him testifying of his orders to wipe out entire villages. Telephone conversations between Milosevic & Ratko Mladic intercepted (probably by the US) discussing the war campaign. Slobodan was and is exactly the monster and worse that the Western media has made him out to be. The rest of his cronies should be brought to justice too, and tried for their wrongdoings.

Kosovo is more than 80% Albanian, right ? The area is sacred for Serbs b/c the Turks kicked their butts there years ago. It is special land for them and they feel very very strongly about it, probably b/c of the defeat they suffered there. I am not saying that the land should be handed over to the Albanians, who are the "muslim terrorists" that you described, but some agreement has to be made there to avoid more conflict and bloodshed.

So the war in the former Yugoslavia wasn't the worst genocide since WW2 ? Where you get these crazy concepts and theories is a mystery to me.

first of all, i don't think the court in den haag has any authority at all. it is very hypocrytical to be shifting all the blame and responsibility on one man who may or may not be responsible for what happened. i can tell you with certainty that for every atrocity commmited by serbian extremists, there was one by muslim and croatian extremists.

kosovo is a part of serbia, and has been for a very long time. it is sacred to them because that is where serbian civilization started. as recently as 50 years ago, the albanians were NOT in the majority there, and they are now mostly because of their high natality rate and in part because many serbs fled from there. albanian terrorist groups, which are nothing more than drug-dealing criminals have been trying to secede for quite some time now. they've been terrorizing civilians in yugoslavia and macedonia for the last 10 years, and they still continue to do so because jugoslavia has no rights to defend itself. links between the KLA and osama bin laden are also well-documented.

and yes, there have been worse "genocides" since WW2. lets take kosovo for example. from the start there were numbers like 50.000 dead civilians. then the numbers started gradually decresing until the last official count was something like 2800 dead, including combatants.

edit: btw, yugoslavia never got any money for reparations or for extraditing milosevic, so i guess the joke is on them.

The Croats are as guilty as the Serbs, no question. If Franjo Tudman wasn't dead, he should be in a prison cell in the Hague along w/Milosevic. But Franjo is dead, and they got Slobodan. Sure there are a lot of other very guilty ppl still out there at large on both sides. Maybe a few of them will be handed over yet. Someone had to be the fall guy for all the $hite that happened there and I think that they got the right man. For certain he is no innocent bystander in all of this. I wanna see Ratko Mladic pay for what he did and Radovan Karadic too. Those guys are as guilty as Milosevic.

I dunno about all the well documented ties between the KLA and Bin Laden that you mentioned. I am not too hip whats going on in Kosovo in general so I will not comment. Plus when one discusses these types of things, one is walking on eggshells. It is very easy offend someone, and I don't wanna do that.

 

[prontospyder]

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