September 11, 2001: Histortic thread on ATOT. Where is it archived?

[GTaudiophile]

Yes, this Lifer is still around. Can't believe it's been 22 years.

I am curious about the historic 9/11/2001 ATOT thread. Every link seems to 404. Is it preserved anywhere?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=611382

 

[BoomerD]

Yes, this Lifer is still around. Can't believe it's been 22 years.

I am curious about the historic 9/11/2001 ATOT thread. Every link seems to 404. Is it preserved anywhere?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=611382

Took a bit of digging. The ORIGINAL thread, as you saw, has vanished into the land of 404, but back around pages 29302-29310, there are a sit ton of threads...including these:

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Continuation - WORLD TRADE CENTERS HAVE COLLAPSED AND WASHINGTON DC HAS BEEN ATTACKED

I have changed this thread to a continuation of the previous thread, which was getting way too long and taking too long to load. This terrorist attack is a unique event in U.S. history, and we know it will be impossible to contain the discussion to one thread. Please help us keep the forums...

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The originals of both seem to be gone.

 

[JM Aggie08]

It's crazy seeing >10 people posting in a thread.

 

[BoomerD]

It's crazy seeing >10 people posting in a thread.

As well as the names of those people long departed. (From AT, not ded...although I'm sure there are a few of those as well)

 

[GTaudiophile]

Such a pity the original is gone. I am sure it had 1000+ replies. It was a true testament to the day. The first post was a result of the first tower being hit, before anyone knew what was going on.

 

[allisolm]

Here's one, but I don't know if it's the one you're looking for: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-into-the-world-trade-center-building.611382/

The threads aren't archived. They're all still there, it's just that software changes meant changes in how threads are identified in the links. You can find a bunch of them with the search function here.

 

[brianmanahan]

this was the first year where 9/11 didn't seem to be made into a really big deal on the media

kids who were born on 9/11 are old enough to drink now

in a few more decades, 9/11 will be to people what pearl harbor is nowadays - a historical event that most people see as a quiz or jeopardy question

 

[burninatortech4]

I stumbled across a suggested Google search when looking at something related to 9/11

"What year was 9/11?"

I'm getting old...

 

[GTaudiophile]

Here's one, but I don't know if it's the one you're looking for: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-into-the-world-trade-center-building.611382/

The threads aren't archived. They're all still there, it's just that software changes meant changes in how threads are identified in the links. You can find a bunch of them with the search function here.

Pretty that is the one. Thanks.

 

[Fenixgoon]

wow haven't seen you round these parts for a while! doing ok? still in the DMV?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Wow it's chilling going through that thread as it's happening. You can see time stamps if you hover over the date to get a better idea.

 

[Fenixgoon]

damned if this weren't a very prescient response in the thread

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thats a pretty cocky comment considering we just got B!tch slapped by somone we don't know. but no matter what, even if America prevails what about the casualties in that process. Do the ends really justify the means? we need to find a peaceful solution to all this. The trouble with terrorist attacks is that they are nt centralized physicaly so we can't nuke them like a country.

having the benefit of hindsight, i'd say no, it wasn't worth it at all.

 

[SKORPI0]

22 years after, never forget.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/interactive/2023/photos-sept-11-terror-attack-anniversary-ceremonies/

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Yeah I don't think anyone who was self aware around the time 9/11 occurred will ever forget.

What is intense is A) How little significance it holds to kids today and B) Kids today have already been through another world changing event thanks to the Pandemic.

I have to remind myself that my Kid has their own "9/11", complete with bungled response and all, that weighs on like 9/11 did me.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Crazy it's been that long, and yeah the covid stuff is basically the younger generation's version of 9/11 and 9/11 to them is basically like Pearl Harbour to us. Hear about it, but was not around for it to happen.

 

[Ajay]

I was home from work that morning because I had an 11:00 am dentist appoint. Eyes glued to the TV till I had to leave. Still recall the feeling of shock while watching that second plane hit. Then the tower collapsed - it's just burned into my brain like nothing else. God bless the survivors of a lost loved one.

 

[brianmanahan]

I have to remind myself that my Kid has their own "9/11", complete with bungled response and all, that weighs on like 9/11 did me.

i guess every generation does, going back 120 years at least

vietnam

korea

ww2

great depression

ww1

maybe the late 1800s were truly the best time to be alive

 

[dave_the_nerd]

i guess every generation does, going back 120 years at least

vietnam

korea

ww2

great depression

ww1

maybe the late 1800s were truly the best time to be alive

Nooooo they were not.

 

[Hoober]

i guess every generation does, going back 120 years at least

vietnam

korea

ww2

great depression

ww1

maybe the late 1800s were truly the best time to be alive

I wouldn't have wanted to go through the Civil War.

 

[dank69]

Here's one, but I don't know if it's the one you're looking for: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-into-the-world-trade-center-building.611382/

The threads aren't archived. They're all still there, it's just that software changes meant changes in how threads are identified in the links. You can find a bunch of them with the search function here.

Got through 17 pages before I had to stop. A lot of pricks in that thread. Thoughts and prayers and nukes.

 

[manly]

Here's one, but I don't know if it's the one you're looking for: https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-into-the-world-trade-center-building.611382/

The threads aren't archived. They're all still there, it's just that software changes meant changes in how threads are identified in the links. You can find a bunch of them with the search function here.

The search function?

Yeah I don't think anyone who was self aware around the time 9/11 occurred will ever forget.

What is intense is A) How little significance it holds to kids today and B) Kids today have already been through another world changing event thanks to the Pandemic.

I have to remind myself that my Kid has their own "9/11", complete with bungled response and all, that weighs on like 9/11 did me.

World changing; global health crisis. Sure. Extremely disruptive to education, a lost year for millions of students.

I don't have kids, but how is the pandemic their 9/11 ? Did they have field trips to ICUs that permanently scarred them for life?

And even for our generation, 9/11's effects depend on where you were at the time. Most of us will never know what New Yorkers experienced in Manhattan. Beyond the TV images, I'll never possibly understand the trauma of being there (or at The Pentagon).

 

[GodisanAtheist]

The search function?


World changing; global health crisis. Sure. Extremely disruptive to education, a lost year for millions of students.

I don't have kids, but how is the pandemic their 9/11 ? Did they have field trips to ICUs that permanently scarred them for life?

And even for our generation, 9/11's effects depend on where you were at the time. Most of us will never know what New Yorkers experienced in Manhattan. Beyond the TV images, I'll never possibly understand the trauma of being there (or at The Pentagon).

- In a real way COVID was way way more disruptive to the lives of kids than 9/11 ever was.

Their entire social network disappeared overnight, they went from tactile in person learning to *trying* to learn via Zoom (which is totally nuts of you've ever been exposed to children at all).

Their grandparents and family got sick or died, others went q-tarded and nuts, they fell massively behind in their education and socialization. Families moved all over thanks to remote work. Our own school lost 50% of its student body as people left the HCOL area and went to sleepy bedroom communities around the state.

9/11 meant security checkpoints at airports, curtailment of personal liberties, and two collosal fuckups in the mid-east, but it didn't really affect the day to day life of the average American (and especially children) in any way close to how the Pandemic did.

So I guess I agree with your core thesis. COVID isn't this gen's 9/11, it's something much much worse.

 

[Fenixgoon]

The search function?


World changing; global health crisis. Sure. Extremely disruptive to education, a lost year for millions of students.

I don't have kids, but how is the pandemic their 9/11 ? Did they have field trips to ICUs that permanently scarred them for life?

And even for our generation, 9/11's effects depend on where you were at the time. Most of us will never know what New Yorkers experienced in Manhattan. Beyond the TV images, I'll never possibly understand the trauma of being there (or at The Pentagon).

my problem with all the "never forget" sentiment is that we 100% forget the worst things that happened as a result of 9/11:

1) intense racist/xenophobic response to our muslim citizens
2) heavily increased security state, completely unconstitutional no fly list
3) invaded 2 countries, spent trillions of dollars, 2 decades, thousands of soldiers lives, hundreds of thousands (1M+?) dead, and millions displaced

 

[manly]

my problem with all the "never forget" sentiment is that we 100% forget the worst things that happened as a result of 9/11:

1) intense racist/xenophobic response to our muslim citizens
2) heavily increased security state, completely unconstitutional no fly list
3) invaded 2 countries, spent trillions of dollars, 2 decades, thousands of soldiers lives, hundreds of thousands (1M+?) dead, and millions displaced

Nah, Zoom primary education (and other pandemic knock-on effects) is "much much worse" on children than all that. To be clear, I'm not trying to minimize the COVID-19 pandemic, which goes down as a once in a century global health crisis.