Seperation of Church & State thread:11-14-06 Toys for Tots rejects talking Jesus Doll

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: teclado

Originally posted by: CitizenKain
We have an atheist government? Thats news to me. What a happy world that would be.
Honestly, how do you say the separation of church and state is nonsense, and then later say it would be bad to have a church run government? If if wasn't for the separation, then we would have a theocratic government, and it would be horrible.

The point I was trying to make is that the sep of church and state has gone too far, to the extent of being atheistic. If we have a non-theocratic government, then we have an atheist government. There is no middle ground, try as we may.

Regarding the original topic: if Jesus dolls are not acceptable toys, then sep of church and state has crossed the line. The government has no business saying that Jesus dolls are unacceptable. Flame away.

Really? You mean believers who chose not shove their faith down other people's throats are actually atheists? Mindboggling!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Seekermeister
Your point is rather dull and without any relevance.

and your point is who do you think should be President:

Falwell?

Dobson?

The Pope?

Ted Haggard?

 

[MikeO]

Originally posted by: Seekermeister

Originally posted by: AnyMal
Surely you won't deny that Christians slaughtered millions of people in the name of religion? When did I ever said anything about Christians should keep their mouth shut? You can say whatever you want, I could care less. Unlike fundies, I believe in freedom of speech.

Surely, you are wrong. The fact that some people have killed others in the name of Christianity, doesn't mean that they were Christians.

They killed in the name of christianity and they were christians, nothing you say changes that fact.

So, I repeat...there are no Christians going around blowing up tall buildings, hyjacking aircraft and slaughtering innocent people.

Following your line of thought, there's no muslims doing this either. But, obviously, you're wrong.

 

[dmcowen674]

11-16-06 Update

Toys for Tots accpets the dolls.

They don't say what they will do with them, maybe the round file???

 

[daniel49]

maybe next year someone will donate 5000 Muhammad dolls, pull the string and it says Die infidel!!:Q

Or maybe that wouldn't be allowed a doll is similar to a picture?

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Seekermeister

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Dec. 25th was a pagan holiday long before the Christians stole it.

So? Are you a pagan? Do you dance around bondfires at the winter solstice?

No, he's someone who knows what he's talking about: December 25th was a pagan holiday, before christianity stole it.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Seekermeister
False. Christmas was not the date of Christ's birth, so in that fashion it is celebrated wrongly. But, it was the date of His conception, therefore it is a day to be celebrated.

Liar. Your bible specifically makes no mention whatsoever as to a date, either of jesus' date of birth, nor to his date of conception. BTW, only people with single-digit IQ's would celebrate the day someone was conceived.

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Seekermeister
False. Christmas was not the date of Christ's birth, so in that fashion it is celebrated wrongly. But, it was the date of His conception, therefore it is a day to be celebrated.

Liar. Your bible specifically makes no mention whatsoever as to a date, either of jesus' date of birth, nor to his date of conception. BTW, only people with single-digit IQ's would celebrate the day someone was conceived.

Actually the Bible tells us in what period of the year Christ wasn't born.

"The Gospel accounts indicate that Jesus was born before the winter season:
Luke 2:8 "Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night." {Sheep were never in the field by night in Palestine after the third week of October.} "