Separation of Church and ... porn?

SunnyD

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I think I'm gonna have to side with the strippers on this one...

WARSAW, Ohio – Strippers dressed in bikinis sunbathe in lawn chairs, their backs turned toward the gray clapboard church where men in ties and women in full-length skirts flock to Sunday morning services.

The strippers, fueled by Cheetos and nicotine, are protesting a fundamentalist Christian church whose Bible-brandishing congregants have picketed the club where they work. The dancers roll up with signs carrying messages adapted from Scripture, such as "Do unto others as you would have done unto you," to counter church members who for four years have photographed license plates of patrons and asked them if their mothers and wives know their whereabouts.

The dueling demonstrations play out in central Ohio, where nine miles of cornfields and Amish-buggy crossing signs separate The Fox Hole strip club from New Beginnings Ministries.

Club owner Tommy George met with the preacher and offered to call off his not-quite-nude crew from their three-month-long protest if the church responds in kind. But pastor Bill Dunfee believes that a higher power has tasked him with shutting down the strip club.

"As a Christian community, we cannot share territory with the devil," Dunfee said. "Light and darkness cannot exist together, so The Fox Hole has got to go."

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"I never saw Jesus with a picket sign," Donewald said.

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A few houses and a ribs joint called Peggy Sue's separate the club from another white building, a church where some of the strippers donate blood during drives for the American Red Cross.

"I got a church 900 feet down the street that causes me no problems," club owner George said. "And I got this moron nine miles down the street that causes me more headaches."
As Gillbot so politely inquired... "Why do they have to go? The church can leave too, can't it?"
 
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Jeff7

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As usual, it's hard to make any argument against a man's faith.
"Just do whatever the voices in your head tell you to do."

:awe:


In a rational world, that sort of statement would be considered to be a sign of a mental disorder. Instead, he's in a position of leadership.
 

surfsatwerk

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Why doesn't the crazy god voices ever tell people to try to get along with others even though you don't like them.
 

Dr. Zaus

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...ever tell people to try to get along with people even though you don't like them.
They do; for the most part... but you don't hear about those people.
 

ahenkel

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that's not really the best that club has to offer is it? The girls in the accompanying video look like the Tuesday at 3pm group.
 

pontifex

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if the strippers in the pic are any representation of the rest of them, i can see the problem
 

Dr. Zaus

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Its pretty easy when that man tries to shove his faith down your throat.

I was unaware that faith was a tangle object that could be used for penetrating any orifice.

Our society is built on government by the will of the majority of the governed. If that will is based on what Alah, Jesus, a Flying Spaghetti Monster or researchers have told the governed it is up to the individual to make that decision.

No one can 'shove' faith into you, but rules and laws that are mutually agreed upon my the majority is not 'shoving' anything up or down anyone: it is the very basis of a democratic society. Further the right to free speech and to protest that which you disagree with is essential to our democratic process.

now, if the government stepped in and stopped the stripes from protesting: THAT would be a problem.
 

SunnyD

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I was unaware that faith was a tangle object that could be used for penetrating any orifice.

Our society is built on government by the will of the majority of the governed. If that will is based on what Alah, Jesus, a Flying Spaghetti Monster or researchers have told the governed it is up to the individual to make that decision.

No one can 'shove' faith into you, but rules and laws that are mutually agreed upon my the majority is not 'shoving' anything up or down anyone: it is the very basis of a democratic society. Further the right to free speech and to protest that which you disagree with is essential to our democratic process.

now, if the government stepped in and stopped the stripes from protesting: THAT would be a problem.

Really?

The catholic church tried quite desperately over the centuries, branding those that it couldn't force as heretics and executing them.

Hell, the catholic church still tries to 'shove' faith into you, particularly if you're an altar boy.
 

surfsatwerk

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Really?

The catholic church tried quite desperately over the centuries, branding those that it couldn't force as heretics and executing them.

Hell, the catholic church still tries to 'shove' faith into you, particularly if you're an altar boy.

But these clowns are protestants, so the preacher is most likely a closet homosexual with a wicked meth habit.
 

her209

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I was unaware that faith was a tangle object that could be used for penetrating any orifice.
Which is why its called "faith".

Our society is built on government by the will of the majority of the governed. If that will is based on what Alah, Jesus, a Flying Spaghetti Monster or researchers have told the governed it is up to the individual to make that decision.
Wrong. The US government is not a democracy, its a republic. And even then, there are limitations that prevent the majority from voting away the rights of the minority.

No one can 'shove' faith into you, but rules and laws that are mutually agreed upon my the majority is not 'shoving' anything up or down anyone: it is the very basis of a democratic society. Further the right to free speech and to protest that which you disagree with is essential to our democratic process.
Trying to force someone out of business or to move their business because you don't agree with their business is "shoving your faith".

now, if the government stepped in and stopped the stripes from protesting: THAT would be a problem.
Government hasn't stepped in in this instance as far as I know, but its obligated to step in when public safety is at risk.
 

AstroManLuca

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So the churchgoer they interviewed said they love the people but not what they're doing.

Hey churchgoers! I reject the divinity of Jesus Christ! Want to come to my work and protest me?

Plus they're 9 miles away, WTF, wouldn't that put them in a completely different town?
 

Dr. Zaus

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Trying to force someone out of business or to move their business because you don't agree with their business is "shoving your faith".
"it's hard to make any argument against a man's faith." Its pretty easy when that man tries to shove his faith down your throat.
So, you argue against someone's faith because they peacefully protest something they see as destroying society, on the grounds that they are being pushy?
 

Ruptga

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So, you argue against someone's faith because they peacefully protest something they see as destroying society, on the grounds that they are being pushy?

I'd imagine he has other reasons for arguing against their faith, but what he takes offense at is their pushiness. At least, that's true for me.