Sensei RAW native DPI?

[jds1991]

How can I tell what my native DPI is?

 

[BrightCandle]

You can measure the current DPI with a tool called ES MouseTest. It can estimate the polling and DPI settings of the mouse along with some other aspects of the sensor. However it wont tell you what the sensor is capable of without interpolation and I suspect this is what you are looking for? If so the only way I know is the engineers of the underlying chip tell you what the native setting is. Its one of the reason why I like the Zowie mice, they only allow you to use the native settings without interpolation.

 

[F120]

Sensei RAW has native DPI steps in increments of 90.

As for Zowie, the native DPI is 1800, which corresponds to 2300 with their custom lens. The other two steps are created by dropping counts.

 

[moonbogg]

You can measure the current DPI with a tool called ES MouseTest. It can estimate the polling and DPI settings of the mouse along with some other aspects of the sensor. However it wont tell you what the sensor is capable of without interpolation and I suspect this is what you are looking for? If so the only way I know is the engineers of the underlying chip tell you what the native setting is. Its one of the reason why I like the Zowie mice, they only allow you to use the native settings without interpolation.

How does the G502 stack up against the Zowie mice?

 

[BrightCandle]

How does the G502 stack up against the Zowie mice?

It is not on the flawless list. I don't remember the precise details of why its not, most likely its acceleration or failure speed problems (that is the issue with most of the Logitech mice). The only Logitech mouse that I know is considered flawless is the G400S latest version which is known to have a good optical sensor, everything else by Logitech has issues. All the Zowie mice are basically perfect, all be it with a slightly odd lens over the sensor that reduces lift off and adjusts DPI somewhat and a few others from other manufacturers. People can usually find a mouse that suits their hand between the Razor Deathadder 3.5, Logitech G400 and one of the Zowie mice. There are other models out there that are flawless but by and large most mice aren't and hence I don't really consider them suitable for gamers, although many people will argue how amazing their mouse is despite scientific tests showing its changing their inputs and thus isn't accurately reproducing what they do.

 

[Wall Street]

How does the G502 stack up against the Zowie mice?

The G502 has a good sensor, however, it is about 50% heavier and much much larger than the Zowie mice.

 

[moonbogg]

It is not on the flawless list. I don't remember the precise details of why its not, most likely its acceleration or failure speed problems (that is the issue with most of the Logitech mice). The only Logitech mouse that I know is considered flawless is the G400S latest version which is known to have a good optical sensor, everything else by Logitech has issues. All the Zowie mice are basically perfect, all be it with a slightly odd lens over the sensor that reduces lift off and adjusts DPI somewhat and a few others from other manufacturers. People can usually find a mouse that suits their hand between the Razor Deathadder 3.5, Logitech G400 and one of the Zowie mice. There are other models out there that are flawless but by and large most mice aren't and hence I don't really consider them suitable for gamers, although many people will argue how amazing their mouse is despite scientific tests showing its changing their inputs and thus isn't accurately reproducing what they do.

From the Logitech website:

"Proteus Core features the Logitech G exclusive Delta Zero™ technology in the world’s most powerful and accurate sensor. Combining a huge DPI range of 200 all the way up to 12,000 with zero sensor acceleration, zero smoothing or filtering, and zero pixel rounding, the mouse is designed to deliver unparalleled tracking performance and responsiveness, and can track movement at 300 inches per second."

Are those the things you are talking about? If those claims are true (which reviewers and owners have suggested they are true) would that make the mouse qualify as flawless? What is needed to determine if the mouse's sensor is actually flawless?

 

[BrightCandle]

For me it takes at least 2 CS/Quake live pros to confirm that it is indeed flawless. No acceleration, no skipping, no jitter, no smoothing, no angle snapping and decent behaviour near failure speed as well as a reasonable failure speed. Many manufacturers have claimed to have good sensors (Steelseries and Logitech) many many times and its turn out to be false. Until some guys with experience test it at esreality or elsewhere I wouldn't touch it, manufacturers claims are often not reality. But yes those qualities are the things I look for in mice.

 

[Ben90]

Do all Zowie mice use the same sensor/lens setup? I bought an AM and was thoroughly disappointed with the malfunction speed. Somewhere in the low 2's. Definitely a no-go for those with a low sensitivity.

 

[BrightCandle]

Do all Zowie mice use the same sensor/lens setup? I bought an AM and was thoroughly disappointed with the malfunction speed. Somewhere in the low 2's. Definitely a no-go for those with a low sensitivity.

Yes they do. Should be between 3.3 m/s and 2.9m/s depending on what DPI setting you use.Using 2300 dpi for example will get you a little higher on the malfunction speed so might be worth trying if your currently only using its 450 dpi mode.

 

[jds1991]

You can measure the current DPI with a tool called ES MouseTest. It can estimate the polling and DPI settings of the mouse along with some other aspects of the sensor. However it wont tell you what the sensor is capable of without interpolation and I suspect this is what you are looking for? If so the only way I know is the engineers of the underlying chip tell you what the native setting is. Its one of the reason why I like the Zowie mice, they only allow you to use the native settings without interpolation.

What does interpolation do?

 

[jds1991]

What does interpolation do?

Is it accel?