Sending a Graphics card to Canada?

[Patrick Wolf]

RESOLVED:

I shipped a graphics card to Canada. I put "Graphics Card" on the label, and that is was manufactured in China. The guy receiving this package, let's call him "Mr. X", claims the Canada Post is charging him $24 USD because it's a product from the US.

Is he trying to screw me?

I know this is off-topic, but help me out.

Here's the e-mail he sent me:
Hi, I did receive the card, but I don't know what you write on the box , because they charged me another 30 $ for Because its A United State product. It's not the first time for me receiving a package coming from other country specially US. I still need to go get the package , maybe you could write me a letter saying that was a gift from you. Like you shoul of done in the beggining on the box.

If they don't accept, I'm will ask you to pay me back the 30 $ because you did the mistake

Thanks and I'm not happy about the, the videocard cost me so far 150 $ + 30 = 180, that way too much, I can have a new all in wonder 9800 for this price

 

[ribbon13]

You should have called it 'used' and a 'gift' on the box....

And yes.. there are duty fees sometimes.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
You should have called it 'used' and a 'gift' on the box....

And yes.. there are duty fees sometimes.

I should have called it "Used graphics card"?

It wasn't a gift, so why should I put that on there?

 

[ComatoseDelirium]

Cause than you dont get the duty charges

 

[intogamer]

If they charge you 30 dollars. It should be half your fault.
and no he is not screwing with you.
maybe though:laugh:

 

[Navid]

This is a little bit unfair!

I am a Canadian now living in the US, and I know that when I lived there, if I imported something to Canada, I may have had to pay duty depending on the cost and length of time that I stayed away. I mean if I left the country for 2 weeks, I could bring back more than if I only left the country for 24 hours without having to pay any duty.

But, the point I am trying to make is that I knew all about these regulations because I was and am a Canadian. But, you are not! He should have told you about this and let you make your mind about what you wanted to do about it. For example, you could have decided to write "Gift" on it. Or you could have decided to forget about the whole deal because it sounded strange.

But, he did not tell you anything about this! I think it is only fair that he should also pay something for this.
May be you two can split the cost. He can email you the receipt for the charge as well.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Originally posted by: Navid
But, the point I am trying to make is that I knew all about these regulations because I was and am a Canadian. But, you are not! He should have told you about this and let you make your mind about what you wanted to do about it. For example, you could have decided to write "Gift" on it. Or you could have decided to forget about the whole deal because it sounded strange.

But, he did not tell you anything about this! I think it is only fair that he should also pay something for this.
May be you two can split the cost. He can email you the receipt for the charge as well.

I was just thinking the exact same thing. I feel like it is partly my fault, but mostly his because he IS a Canadian, not every American knows about a possible duty fee when shipping to Canada.

I even e-mailed him before I read this and said that it is not my responsibility to know about these kinds of things.

 

[Hanpan]

You owe him nothing.

I live i canada as well and this is his problem not yours.

If you need more info pm me.

 

[ribbon13]

Again... next ime write "Gift of used graphics card."

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Canada +1.

Hanpan is dead on. You owe him $0. Misrepresenting the value of an item to customs is federal fraud, and is not the sellers responsibility to pay. If he wants to dodge customs fees, he'll have to have it shipped stateside, grow a pair, and smuggle it in himself.

(Note - I don't condone smuggling, even though Han Solo says its okay.)

- M4H

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
Again... next ime write "Gift of used graphics card."

Fraud.

- M4H

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: ribbon13
Again... next ime write "Gift of used graphics card."

Fraud.

- M4H

Yeah...that's kinda what I was thinking....

Well I can't wait to see how this turns out.

"I'll deal with him." :|

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Ok, now he says he realizes he got charged because the dollar amount of the contents is displayed on the label, so I guess he's taking the fall. But I think after I told him what I know about mail fraud, he backed away.

Now he's saying the card doesn't work, I asked him if he's installing it correctly, he says:

I'm computer Technicien for 4 years, I have 7 computer and one laptop, I work at compusmart. I build and troubleshoot computers, it's my job!! But now tihs is my first bad experience with ebay and I start to think there is probably poeple who are not honnest and try to make money using the web bidding, maybe not tell me, but one thing I don't want to loose 180 $ afterall.

http://www.compusmart.com

website of my job

The card was working before I shipped it out, so either he damaged it, or it got damaged in the mail, which is unlikely because I packed that thing really well. No postal insurance was purchased, so that doesn't help.

He wants a refund, I said I won't give him a penny until the card is back in my hands again.

 

[UsandThem]

Originally posted by: Hanpan
You owe him nothing.

I live i canada as well and this is his problem not yours.

If you need more info pm me.

:thumbsup:

I have never done a trade to Canada, but I have seen this situation posted here several times. I always love when someone blames another for their country's taxes and VAT. I also love when everyone comes in here and says "Just lie about the item being sent to me and fudge the paperwork."

A lie is a lie. If someone wants you to willingly lie about one thing, how do you know they are not lying about other things?

 

[UsandThem]

Originally posted by: wolfman579
Ok, now he says he realizes he got charged because the dollar amount of the contents is displayed on the label, so I guess he's taking the fall. But I think after I told him what I know about mail fraud, he backed away.

Now he's saying the card doesn't work, I asked him if he's installing it correctly, he says:

I'm computer Technicien for 4 years, I have 7 computer and one laptop, I work at compusmart. I build and troubleshoot computers, it's my job!! But now tihs is my first bad experience with ebay and I start to think there is probably poeple who are not honnest and try to make money using the web bidding, maybe not tell me, but one thing I don't want to loose 180 $ afterall.

http://www.compusmart.com

website of my job

The card was working before I shipped it out, so either he damaged it, or it got damaged in the mail, which is unlikely because I packed that thing really well. No postal insurance was purchased, so that doesn't help.

He wants a refund, I said I won't give him a penny until the card is back in my hands again.

Well, it sounds like he has buyer's remorse and wants his money back. Hopefully he didn't purposely break it to get his money back.

Since you did not purchase insurance for it, you might be SOL. What kind of evals or Heatware did this guy have?

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Originally posted by: UsandThem

Since you did not purchase insurance for it, you might be SOL. What kind of evals or Heatware did this guy have?

He has an ebay rating of 4 Positives = 100%.

Here's mine.

 

[Looney]

What was the value of the card? Even if you did labeled it gift, if it was over $50, he would have been charged brokerage/taxes on it.

 

[Hanpan]

Free healthcare has a price. This is one of the ways of paying for it.

Again as M4H stated this is the buyers problem, not the sellers.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Originally posted by: Hardcore
What was the value of the card? Even if you did labeled it gift, if it was over $50, he would have been charged brokerage/taxes on it.

It was $102.50.

 

[Jeff7]

Geez, sounds like a heck of a trader. Excellent spelling and grammar in those mails. And I love how it's suddenly "broken" after you tell him you're not paying for the duty fees.

I'd say at this point, go for the refund - and hope that it does in fact work when you get it. Then, at least a neutral eval for him.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Geez, sounds like a heck of a trader. Excellent spelling and grammar in those mails. And I love how it's suddenly "broken" after you tell him you're not paying for the duty fees.

I'd say at this point, go for the refund - and hope that it does in fact work when you get it. Then, at least a neutral eval for him.

Yes, hopefully it does work when I get it, I mean, it was packed extremely well. It would be so funny if it all of a sudden worked for him and he makes up some excuse of what he did wrong. :laugh:

He also might want to get a refund because he said he could get an AIW 9800 for the price he's paying for this. :light:

Lier, idiot, or con-man, I don't know which...but he won't fool this 17 year old.

He e-mailed me again and said this:

You think it could be the shipping, the card was very well pack, but still this is electornical product it could be the reason why, and unfortunately I did not take insurance shipping. So I'm screwed, and how much whas the insurance fee enyway. I've learned something with this situation, always take insurance !!!

What do ya'll make of it?

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Another e-mail from him telling me about why the GC doesn't work.

When you talk about shipping issues, I took a second look at the card , what happend his the two rectangular where not reallly safe for that trip. One of the small chip under the heatsink got damage.

So it's not your fault, neither the shipping, just the situation about heavy and not safe heatsink for irregular circonstance. I learned next time for computer shipping I will definitely take insurance.

But, will insurance cover damage or just lost item ?

Picture of the card I sold to him.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Anyone? What do you think?

 

[fishmonger12]

his presentation is so unprofessional. even if he's telling the truth, it's hard to believe him because of the horrendous spelling in his emails.

i'm guessing he's french canadian who doesn't have a good command of english or someone that doesn't speak english natively? because his emails are making him look really bad :\.

 

[Budman]

I am a french canadian and I would not send a dime back to him.

Everybody knows about the greedy canadian border tax (GST) and playing innocent only makes him look guilty.

I say he broke the card so screw him.