Senate passes Keystone XL pipeline bill despite Obama promise to veto

[senseamp]

We need to transition to electric, not build more pipelines. Obama done good.

 

[Fern]

Keystone is not nor will not bring a drop of oil "into" this country. Duh.

The line goes directly from from Canada, then directly down non-stop to tankers waiting on the Gulf to sail the oil far far away.
I mean really now, how dumb can people be over where exactly this piped oil is heading to?
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How dumb? Maybe you can tell us because the oil isn't going "non-stop to tankers". It's going to US refineries in the area first. Some refined products like gas will be sold here, some will be exported.

I don't understand this obsession with where the gas/oil ends up. Whether it is sold here or in Timbuktu the effect on our gas prices will be exactly the same.

Fern

 

[Fern]

One question I have and maybe someone can answer is this:

If this pipeline is such a great thing for the economy, for jobs, for country... then why is it not being built in Canada by Canadian workers west to the Pacific Canadian coast or east to their Atlantic coast? They could surely use both the temp and permanent jobs just as much as we could. No? They love their neighbors to the south so much that they just want to give us this gift?

They're trying to get the oil to our refineries.

Fern

 

[ivwshane]

How dumb? Maybe you can tell us because the oil isn't going "non-stop to tankers". It's going to US refineries in the area first. Some refined products like gas will be sold here, some will be exported.

I don't understand this obsession with where the gas/oil ends up. Whether it is sold here or in Timbuktu the effect on our gas prices will be exactly the same.

Fern

They're trying to get the oil to our refineries.

Fern

So there is no benefit to it except for oil companies. If oil companies didn't have such a horrible environmental record that might not be a bad thing but they do in fact have a horrible record so...

 

[Newell Steamer]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/05/u...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

A bipartisan majority of senators were unable to reach the two-thirds vote required to undo a presidential veto. The vote was 62 to 37.

Passed, vetoed,.. and then failed to override the veto.

So, the Right wasn't able to fight for a foreign country to come in and take over American soil under eminent domain for their profits.

Will Julia Trigg Crawford get her land back now? http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/keystone-xl-cowboys-and-indians-alliance-105917.html

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Guess you didn't realize that the Keystone pipeline in Texas has been in operation for quite some time. Phase 4 (Green line) is the only portion affected by this vote. Phase 3b will go online in May or June.

 

[cabri]

The Senate vote ensures that the first significant veto of Mr. Obama’s administration will stand — and also that his future vetoes are likely to withstand similar efforts. However, Republicans said they intended to continue to find ways to bring the Keystone bill back to the president’s desk

Such will be for the next two years. As long as the Democrats stand solid for Obama's wishes, minimal work will get done.

The election of 2014 only exposed more the partisanship of the government.
Until one party has absolute control; gridlock with the party in the WH having the upper hand will occur.

Mr. Obama indicated that he vetoed the bill not because of the pipeline itself, but rather because the bill would have removed his authority to make the final decision on the project.

He has never indicated that he wanted this to go forward - continually stalling

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I'm glad at least that Democrats in the Senate are on record here. Time to move along.