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Sen. John McCain for Vice President

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Zedtom

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Is the Democratic party daring enough to nominate a person from a rival party to be their nominee for vice president?

A Kerry-McCain ticket would be quite a departure from politics as usual.
 
I don't know if they are, but McCain was on NPR yesterday and rejected the idea for a few reasons, the most important reason being he would be less effective as the lone Republican in a Democratic administration, and that the VP position has two functions, which is to break ties in the Senate, and inquire daily on the health of the President. That's the sole function of the VP. Cheney's prominence is an exception. He would be in a position of less influence, and his party would never accept him as a candidate for office again.
 
Who says he has to stay in the Republican party? He could become a Democrat and still keep his supporters.

Hillary Clinton would be the only Democrat with influence that would object.
 
geez..this sure sounds like Democrat desperation...

naming a life-long straight white male Republican as your running mate....
If i was a African-American, Female or Gay I would be feeling mighty "left" out (HAHA that was a pun!)

what? no qualified minorities for Veep?
Kerry's (a highly decorated Vietnem Veteran) campaign staff/inner circle: lets see..no hispanics, no blacks, few women....now wants to add McCain..

Desperation, pure and simple....actually just sounds ridiculous.
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
geez..this sure sounds like Democrat desperation...

naming a life-long straight white male Republican as your running mate....
If i was a African-American, Female or Gay I would be feeling mighty "left" out (HAHA that was a pun!)

what? no qualified minorities for Veep?
Kerry's (a highly decorated Vietnem Veteran) campaign staff/inner circle: lets see..no hispanics, no blacks, few women....now wants to add McCain..

Desperation, pure and simple....actually just sounds ridiculous.
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What the heck are you talking about? Are you saying that voting, period, is a sign of democrat-desperation?
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
geez..this sure sounds like Democrat desperation...

naming a life-long straight white male Republican as your running mate....
If i was a African-American, Female or Gay I would be feeling mighty "left" out (HAHA that was a pun!)

what? no qualified minorities for Veep?
Kerry's (a highly decorated Vietnem Veteran) campaign staff/inner circle: lets see..no hispanics, no blacks, few women....now wants to add McCain..

Desperation, pure and simple....actually just sounds ridiculous.
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:roll:
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
geez..this sure sounds like Democrat desperation...

naming a life-long straight white male Republican as your running mate....
If i was a African-American, Female or Gay I would be feeling mighty "left" out (HAHA that was a pun!)

what? no qualified minorities for Veep?
Kerry's (a highly decorated Vietnem Veteran) campaign staff/inner circle: lets see..no hispanics, no blacks, few women....now wants to add McCain..

Desperation, pure and simple....actually just sounds ridiculous.
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You're just plain ignorant. Leave it to you to bring race and sexual orientation into this. Yeah, hide behind your "HAHAHAHA, I'm just joking" or "Ooooo, I'm just pointing out Commie Liberal proclivities" disguises -- they don't wash. The race and orientation fixation are YOURS. The ugliness is in your heart. What did your parents teach you? Ignorance and bigotry are just oozing out of your pores.
 
How is this indicative of desperation, when there is nothing to indicate that Sen Kerry has in fact made any overtures whatsoever to Sen McCain to ask him to run?
 
When you guys gonna realize heartsurgeon is a troll that should not be fed?


Would be interested to see McCain as VP for Kerry, but never gonna happen.
 
While I personally would like it...I think it would be stupid politically for both McCain and Kerry. Kerry would alienate the far left voters by choosing a republican VP, and McCain would screw himself out of running for prez again. (Which I think he plans to do in 2008 perhaps)
 
isn't there a single woman or minority Democrat that excites you liberals as a Veep candidate? That's not trolling, that's pointing out the obvious!

Hillary is the most "exciting" female Democrat out their....why doesn't she run as Veep for "the good of the party?" The most "exciting" minority Democrat I can think of is Al Sharpton..

Geez...McCain...can't you do any better than that?
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
isn't there a single woman or minority Democrat that excites you liberals as a Veep candidate? That's not trolling, that's pointing out the obvious!

Hillary is the most "exciting" female Democrat out their....why doesn't she run as Veep for "the good of the party?" The most "exciting" minority Democrat I can think of is Al Sharpton..

Geez...McCain...can't you do any better than that?
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Why would Kerry feel obligated to select a female or minority, when it would foreseeably impair his chances? I imagine you can and will cook up some disingenuous argument that he is morally obligated to, but in the meantime I have no idea what you're talking about.

Unlike President Bush, Sen Kerry doesn't have a former President as his father, with a cabinet to draw from. Whatever choice he makes will presumably be a person he thinks is adequately qualified, and one who might attract voters otherwise not in the Kerry camp. I am unaware of any initiative on Kerry's part to select Sen McCain - the OP was just speculating, as are all of us.
 
Why would Kerry feel obligated to select a female or minority, when it would foreseeably impair his chances?
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Why would it impair his chances? Considering the demographics that the Democrats supposedly represent, not to mention the "core values" that the party is supposed to hold dear, a female or minority running mate should be a lock. But I digress, who better than old white rich dudes to set policy for women and minority issues...........:roll:
 
Originally posted by: Corn

Why would it impair his chances? Considering the demographics that the Democrats supposedly represent, not to mention the "core values" that the party is supposed to hold dear, a female or minority running mate should be a lock. But I digress, who better than old white rich dudes to set policy for women and minority issues...........:roll:
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Ahem - this is a rather flip and disingenuous response IMO. I would like to see a female or minority considered as a viable, serious candidate for president or VP, but we aren't there yet. The reality is that many people in this country (including many who might otherwise vote for Kerry) are not willing to accept this, and our system is what it is.

I am not condoning or tacitly approving of racism, but I am also not going to pretend it doesn't exist. The reality is that Kerry can and probably will focus on winning the election, not proving a point while losing.
 
Why would Kerry feel obligated to select a female or minority, when it would foreseeably impair his chances?
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Golly...that's sounds racist and sexist...

I never said anyone was obligated to do anything...
i asked how come the Democrats don't have a exciting female or minority candidate they can field as a Veep? I'm not indicting Kerry (a highly decorated Veitnam Veteran) for not picking one, i'm indicting all you liberals for not having a decent candidate for him to choose from...
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
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Golly...that's sounds racist and sexist...

I never said anyone was obligated to do anything...
i asked how come the Democrats don't have a exciting female or minority candidate they can field as a Veep? I'm not indicting Kerry (a highly decorated Veitnam Veteran) for not picking one, i'm indicting all you liberals for not having a decent candidate for him to choose from...[/quote]

Calling another person a racist and sexist, when he has done and said nothing to justify it, is a pretty serious foul in my unwritten rulebook for reasoned debate (one which I increasingly think should be written, given the increasingly uncivil and unreasoned debate here from both ends of the political spectrum).

It seems like a strange argument indeed to say that "all . . . liberals" are at fault because you don't think there are any "exciting" Democratic female or minority politicians. This makes about as much sense as blaming all Republicans for Bill Janklow's driving habits.

So are you really a heart surgeon?
 
please xplain why nominating a qualified woman or minority would "foreseeably impair his chances" of election?

since this election depends upon the "moderate" "undecided" voter...are you calling "modeate" "undecided" voters racists?

This comment: "...racism, but I am also not going to pretend it doesn't exist. The reality is that Kerry can and probably will focus on winning the election, not proving a point while losing."

The more i read your coments, the more indefensible i find them to be.
 
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