Sen. Elizabeth Warren Defends Israeli Shelling of Gaza Schools, Hospitals

[Jhhnn]

Those are just the repercussions of their bad behavior. Adding more bad behavior on top isn't going to help.

If you're a child being punished for peeing on the carpet, trying to get back at the adults by peeing on the carpet again isn't going to trigger them into bringing you to the table as an adult. Peeing on the carpet over that insult still ain't gonna do it.
The Palestinians will continue being sent to their rooms and having their toys taken away until they learn not to pee on the carpet.

Please. It's not like Pals enjoy equal rights, or that their behavior changes Israeli policy.

Israel covets what little they have & intends to take it all eventually, using the fact that the Pals fight back as a pretext. That's beyond obvious to anybody not propagandized into believing in the righteousness of Israel.

Imagine that Israel is not Jewish. Pretend that they're Christian, Hindu, Muslim, whatever. Discard the whole Holocaust guilt trip. What does that look like & why should we support it?

 

[Abwx]

Do you want the war and the killing to stop or not?

You're making excuses for its continuation.

I exposed my opinion, contrary to the zionists i m not a war monger and it is clearly displayed in my posts, i m for the application of the existing international laws whatever their consequences, bad or good, for the parties that are in conflict.

As for its continuation and the reasons why someone explained them very well, so either you are logical or you are left promoting your double standardised opinion :

Please. It's not like Pals enjoy equal rights, or that their behavior changes Israeli policy.

Israel covets what little they have & intends to take it all eventually, using the fact that the Pals fight back as a pretext. That's beyond obvious to anybody not propagandized into believing in the righteousness of Israel.

 

[D-Man]

Yet another fool that believe that a 1000 years reich is possible.

This state will last what the crusaders christians state did last there, 100 or even 150 ans but on the long term if nothing is done to appease the situation this usurpatory state will be crushed, i guess that they will be treated according to their standards of treating others, sad thing is that the ones who will eventualy pay the bill wont be the ones that created this situation.

The Israelis rulers are nihilists, they act the way they do because they know that they will be long dead when the tables will turn and in this respect they are totaly irresponsible contrary to what they state in their phony discourse that are just dedicated propaganda for the retarded.

I have the feeling the land will be barren and radiated before the last Israeli is gone.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Imagine that Israel is not Jewish. Pretend that they're Christian, Hindu, Muslim, whatever. Discard the whole Holocaust guilt trip. What does that look like & why should we support it?

It looks exactly the same and we should support it because it's self-defense against naked aggression.

We can turn it around 180: The Palestinians exist in peace in their state, the Israelis belligerently claim all of Palestine as their own and refuse to acknowledge the existence of Palestine, and they keep sending in radicalized terrorists on suicide missions in order to try to win it. The Palestinians want to maintain peaceful relations with the moderate Jews so they handle the situation with kid gloves year after year. The radical Jews never give up, growing angrier and angrier that the Palestinians not only don't all lay down and die like they want them to but in fact prosper and grow while the Jews remain dirty and poor from their refusal to develop the civilian economy of Israel in favor of holding onto their hatred and continuing the violence. The Palestinians have enough of the attacks and start implementing security measures, making them more and more onerous in order to try to convince the Jews to stop. The Jews see these measures as simply additional reasons why the Palestinians must all die. The Jews get hold of rockets and start firing them into Palestinian villages.
Do the Palestinians have the right to bomb the fuck out of the Jews? Yup. Self defense. Do the Jews have the right to attack the Palestinians more? Nope. When the initial aggressor responds to defensive measures with more aggression, that's not self-defense.

Israel covets what little they have & intends to take it all eventually

Ignoring that they can do so at any time and haven't, and ignoring that they already had territories in their possession which they gave back.
Ah, the wondrously skewed view of a racist.

 

[Jhhnn]

It looks exactly the same and we should support it because it's self-defense against naked aggression.

We can turn it around 180: The Palestinians exist in peace in their state, the Israelis belligerently claim all of Palestine as their own and refuse to acknowledge the existence of Palestine, and they keep sending in radicalized terrorists on suicide missions in order to try to win it. The Palestinians want to maintain peaceful relations with the moderate Jews so they handle the situation with kid gloves year after year. The radical Jews never give up, growing angrier and angrier that the Palestinians not only don't all lay down and die like they want them to but in fact prosper and grow while the Jews remain dirty and poor from their refusal to develop the civilian economy of Israel in favor of holding onto their hatred and continuing the violence. The Palestinians have enough of the attacks and start implementing security measures, making them more and more onerous in order to try to convince the Jews to stop. The Jews see these measures as simply additional reasons why the Palestinians must all die. The Jews get hold of rockets and start firing them into Palestinian villages.
Do the Palestinians have the right to bomb the fuck out of the Jews? Yup. Self defense. Do the Jews have the right to attack the Palestinians more? Nope. When the initial aggressor responds to defensive measures with more aggression, that's not self-defense.



Ignoring that they can do so at any time and haven't, and ignoring that they already had territories in their possession which they gave back.
Ah, the wondrously skewed view of a racist.

That's shameful. When I suggest that the Jewish state be held to the same standards as any other state, you claim I'm a racist.

You also refuse to acknowledge that there is no Palestinian State, that the West Bank & Gaza are under Israeli military jurisdiction & occupation to varying degrees. If Gaza were a State, for example, then Israel would have no right to blockage her ports & borders. Israel insists that they have that right nonetheless. If the West Bank were a State, the IDF wouldn't have checkpoints all over the place. I there were a Palestinian State, it would have defined borders.

Israel rules Palestine yet somehow creates the illusion that they don't. Pals are under occupation, subject to Israeli military law, and have been since 1973.

On the other side of it, Pals are fighting yesterday's battles, because Israel has made a Palestinian State impossible. They should be calling for full Israeli citizenship & equality under the Law, re-framing the argument into something that America can understand in sympathetic terms.

That's Zionists' worst nightmare.

 

[Karl Agathon]

I have the feeling the land will be barren and radiated before the last Israeli is gone.

You can count on it! The Samson Option Ftw!!

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Palestinians are defending themselves, no one in his right mind would attack a 5000 tanks/1000 planes army if he wasnt actualy defending his rights, only a fool would said otherwise..

...But what if you were had a zealous hatred of your enemy and cared nothing for the welfare of your people and even wanted your own people to die in order to make your enemy look like ruthless killers? Might such an attack then make sense?

...That sums up the Hamas strategy in a nutshell.

Why you would defend terrorists who construct kidnap/murder tunnels for the explicit purpose of kidnapping women and children in order to rape them, murder them, and/or hold them for ransom, I have no idea.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Neither Russians nor chinese live on grabbed land...

Why would it be good for the Muslims to control the land in question? So that they could continue to oppress women and live under primitive religious barbarism? So that they could stone women for being raped?

These aren't exactly civilized people that we're dealing with. The best thing the Palestinians could have done would have been to welcome the Israelis with open arms and allow the Israelis to lift them up from the bad leadership, religious barbarism, and poverty they had prior to the arrival of the Jews.

Take a look at the Muslim world. It's filled with dictatorships, Muslims slaughtering other Muslims (ISIS, etc.), women being oppressed, lack of religious freedome, etc. The reason why Israel should possess and govern all of Israel and Palestine is because it would provide the best government and the most freedom for the people living under that government, including Muslims and Palestinians.

This is part of the silent shame that modern day Muslims suffer. They know that in terms of which civilization is superior, the Israeli and the Jewish civilization is far superior to that of the Muslim civilization and they feel horribly butt-hurt about it.

 

[sportage]

So whats the big deal with this and her comments?
She says if they are placing weapons next to schools, naturally Israel is going to target those sites rather than have themselves put in danger from attack.
Remember Vietnam? Japan and WWII?
America nuked a lot of innocent people during both wars.
In Vietnam, the enemy often hid and mixed-in with the innocent non-aggressive villagers.
And certainly during WWII, Japanese school children had nothing to do with attacking Pearl Harbor. Yet they were vaporized by those nukes.

War is indeed hell.
A lot of innocent die.

Most any politician as well as any leader would say pretty much the same as she said.
And this was a bit of a set-up trick question, no doubt.
Especially since with Warren's effort at reforming the banking system and her pissing off a lot of far right pro-business anti-regualtion republicans.
They would love to bring her down.

 

[Abwx]

the Israeli and the Jewish civilization is far superior to that of the Muslim civilization and they feel horribly butt-hurt about it.

Yes a civilization of superior land grabbers....

Use google translate, 400ha are 4km2.

http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient...es-de-terres-en-cisjordanie_4479499_3218.html

Facts are facts, far from your zio inspired fairy tales for the retarded.