Sen. Elizabeth Warren Defends Israeli Shelling of Gaza Schools, Hospitals

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Binarycow

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Neither Russians nor chinese live on grabbed land, the case of the US is somewhat different currently but the palestinians are exactly in the situation of the native american indians, killed on their own land by invaders, so branding the israelis rightous is just ridiculous and just aknowledge some zionist instilled mental slavery or/and racism towards palestinians, you should actualy apply your own advice and read through history, it s obvious that you know nothing of the problem, or rather your sources of informations are zionists propagandists.

We all live on grabbed land so get over it. You are too stupid to believe anyone really gives a shit about a bunch of terrorists. Instead of being gung ho on the internet about shit no one gives a shit about maybe you should buy a plane ticket and go there fight for your belief like those two idiots they show on the news lately. What a waste of space.

By the way, both Russians and Chinese as well as most major powers at this point on the world stage are living on grabbed land. Go read the history book, dumbass.
 

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Neither Russians nor chinese live on grabbed land, the case of the US is somewhat different currently but the palestinians are exactly in the situation of the native american indians, killed on their own land by invaders, so branding the israelis rightous is just ridiculous and just aknowledge some zionist instilled mental slavery or/and racism towards palestinians, you should actualy apply your own advice and read through history, it s obvious that you know nothing of the problem, or rather your sources of informations are zionists propagandists.
So tell me why even the Palestinians fellow Arab brothers and sisters want nothing to do with them......
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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[FONT=arial,helvetica]"[/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica]The Katyusha is used by Hezbollah and launched from Lebanon into northern Israel. Qassam rockets are instead used by Hamas in the Gaza Strip and fired upon Israeli communities" [/FONT]

Try reading more than one sentence.
 
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Try reading more than one sentence.

I read the whole article, twice
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"[/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica]The Katyusha is used by Hezbollah and launched from Lebanon into northern Israel. Qassam rockets are instead used by Hamas in the Gaza Strip and fired upon Israeli communities" [/FONT]
 

DominionSeraph

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And Gazans have the right to defend themselves against relentless embargo by Israel along with artillery, munitions from fighter bombers & hellfire missile attacks from helicopters, too.

Those are just the repercussions of their bad behavior. Adding more bad behavior on top isn't going to help.

If you're a child being punished for peeing on the carpet, trying to get back at the adults by peeing on the carpet again isn't going to trigger them into bringing you to the table as an adult. Peeing on the carpet over that insult still ain't gonna do it.
The Palestinians will continue being sent to their rooms and having their toys taken away until they learn not to pee on the carpet.
 
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Abwx

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We all live on grabbed land so get over it. You are too stupid to believe anyone really gives a shit about a bunch of terrorists. Instead of being gung ho on the internet about shit no one gives a shit about maybe you should buy a plane ticket and go there fight for your belief like those two idiots they show on the news lately. What a waste of space.

By the way, both Russians and Chinese as well as most major powers at this point on the world stage are living on grabbed land. Go read the history book, dumbass.

You, you should read history as you re too stupid to have knowledge of recent history, you re relying on a confused vision of history that litteraly negate recents events.

In 1945 UNO was created and laws were voted, israel was created by the UNO and if they dont abide by the very laws that created it they have no legitimacy, they are a terrorist state, so why do you give a damn for this bunch of gangsters and are defending them in this forum..?..

Besides i dont need your advices, i accept such councels only from people who have a functionnal brain and can discuss without ressorting to insults, wich prove that you have no arguments other than legitimizing the israelis supremacism, poor legitimity if you ask me, that s the legitimity of the burglar that enter your house and hold you at gun point.
 
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Abwx

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The Palestinians will continue being sent to their rooms and having their toys taken away until they learn not to pee on the carpet.

Yet another fool that believe that a 1000 years reich is possible.

This state will last what the crusaders christians state did last there, 100 or even 150 ans but on the long term if nothing is done to appease the situation this usurpatory state will be crushed, i guess that they will be treated according to their standards of treating others, sad thing is that the ones who will eventualy pay the bill wont be the ones that created this situation.

The israelis rulers are nihilists, they act the way they do because they know that they will be long dead when the tables will turn and in this respect they are totaly irresponsible contrary to what they state in their phony discourse that are just dedicated propaganda for the retarded.
 
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DominionSeraph

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Yet another fool that believe that a 1000 years reich is possible.

This state will last what the crusaders christians state did last there, 100 or even 150 ans but on the long term if nothing is done to appease the situation this usurpatory state will be crushed, i guess that they will be treated according to their standards of treating others, sad thing is that the ones who will eventualy pay the bill wont be the ones that created this situation.

The israelis rulers are nihilists, they act the way they do because they know that they will be long dead when the tables will turn and in this respect they are totaly irresponsible contrary to what they state in their phony discourse that are just dedicated propaganda for the retarded.

Sure, and I bet all non-native Americans and Australians are going to move back to Europe, right?

Israel is not a colony of a larger empire. It has declared independence. The Jews have been there for thousands of years and asserting statehood does not lessen their attachment to the land.
 
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Abwx

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Sure, and I bet all non-native Americans and Australians are going to move back to Europe, right?

Israel is not a colony of a larger empire. It has declared independence. The Jews have been there for thousands of years and building a state does not lessen their attachment to the land.

You have trouble understanding what other people post it seems.

Israel is a colony because it was created by european jews that were living in europe for many centuries, that it gained independance doesnt change this fact and doesnt change the fact that sovereignty doesnt give you the right to confiscate privately owned land.

Of course i didnt talk of sending back the jews to Europe and you ll be hard pressed if asked to provide evidences of such sayings from me, that said do you agree with the zionists ideology that they must expel the palestinians and take their lands..?.

Because that s the root of zionism and i cant accept an ideology whose aim and raison d' etre is to uproot a native people from its ancestral land, as palestinians dont come from Mars, you know, they were living and working there in what was their birth land.
 

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You have trouble understanding what other people post it seems.

Israel is a colony because it was created by european jews that were living in europe for many centuries, that it gained independance doesnt change this fact and doesnt change the fact that sovereignty doesnt give you the right to confiscate privately owned land.

Of course i didnt talk of sending back the jews to Europe and you ll be hard pressed if asked to provide evidences of such sayings from me, that said do you agree with the zionists ideology that they must expel the palestinians and take their lands..?.

Because that s the root of zionism and i cant accept an ideology whose aim and raison d' etre is to uproot a native people from its ancestral land, as palestinians dont come from Mars, you know, they were living and working there in what was their birth land.
Actually I thought it went if you don`t agree with me I can`t accept that...


keep on blabbering......or I it called diatribe...perhaps bloviation...either way....it`s obvious you are making stuff up and playing word games...
 
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Actually I thought it went if you don`t agree with me I can`t accept that...


keep on blabbering......or I it called diatribe...perhaps bloviation...either way....it`s obvious you are making stuff up and playing word games...

Looked in a mirror lately?
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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I read the whole article, twice
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"[/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica]The Katyusha is used by Hezbollah and launched from Lebanon into northern Israel. Qassam rockets are instead used by Hamas in the Gaza Strip and fired upon Israeli communities" [/FONT]

clearly not since that's not the whole article that mentions katyusha.
 
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clearly not since that's not the whole article that mentions katyusha.

[FONT=arial,helvetica]"[/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica]The Katyusha is used by Hezbollah and launched from Lebanon into northern Israel. Qassam rockets are instead used by Hamas in the Gaza Strip and fired upon Israeli communities" [/FONT]
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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[FONT=arial,helvetica]"[/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica]The Katyusha is used by Hezbollah and launched from Lebanon into northern Israel. Qassam rockets are instead used by Hamas in the Gaza Strip and fired upon Israeli communities" [/FONT]

How long do you want to do that before I paste two sentences from that article and make you a retard?
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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On March 28, 2006, while Israelis went to general elections, the first Katyusha rocket from Gaza was fired at Israel. The rocket fell near the Itfah kibbutz on the outskirts of Ashkelon and caused no damage or casualties. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.[42][43] Several months later, On July 5, 2006, a rocket hit the center of Ashkelon for the first time, striking an empty high school. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called the attack, which was claimed by Hamas, an "escalation of unprecedented gravity"

On January 5, 2007 Palestinian militants fired a Katyusha rocket at Ashkelon. The Katyusha has a range of 18–20 kilometers, and the rocket was fired from the Al-Atatra region in the northern Gaza Strip, traveling about 17 kilometers before reaching its target. No one was hurt in the Katyusha attack.[53] On October 7, 2007 the Popular Resistance Committees claimed responsibility for a Grad-type Katyusha that hit Netivot

So yea, two paragraphs I guess you just missed because? You're a dumbass or a troll.
 

DominionSeraph

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Israel is a colony because it was created by european jews that were living in europe for many centuries.

Europe is made up of Christian states. Israel is not an extension of any Christian state. The Jewish homeland exists nowhere in Europe.
Sorry to break that to you.

sovereignty doesnt give you the right to confiscate privately owned land.

Nobody who matters recognizes those claims.

Because that s the root of zionism and i cant accept an ideology whose aim and raison d' etre is to uproot a native people from its ancestral land, as palestinians dont come from Mars, you know, they were living and working there in what was their birth land.

They're still living and working there. That the spoiled children among them keep getting spanked... well, that's what happens when you're a spoiled child. You didn't think adults would want to associate with them until they learned to behave like civilized adults, did you?
 
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On March 28, 2006, while Israelis went to general elections, the first Katyusha rocket from Gaza was fired at Israel. The rocket fell near the Itfah kibbutz on the outskirts of Ashkelon and caused no damage or casualties. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.[42][43] Several months later, On July 5, 2006, a rocket hit the center of Ashkelon for the first time, striking an empty high school. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called the attack, which was claimed by Hamas, an "escalation of unprecedented gravity"

On January 5, 2007 Palestinian militants fired a Katyusha rocket at Ashkelon. The Katyusha has a range of 18–20 kilometers, and the rocket was fired from the Al-Atatra region in the northern Gaza Strip, traveling about 17 kilometers before reaching its target. No one was hurt in the Katyusha attack.[53] On October 7, 2007 the Popular Resistance Committees claimed responsibility for a Grad-type Katyusha that hit Netivot

So yea, two paragraphs I guess you just missed because? You're a dumbass or a troll.

EDIT: for clarification

I was under the impression the article in discussion was this one

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/weapons/q0279.shtml

That was where the quote in question came from.

We appear to be debating about two different articles.
 
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AyashiKaibutsu

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EDIT: for clarification

I was under the impression the article in discussion was this one

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/weapons/q0279.shtml

That was where the quote in question came from.

We appear to be debating about two different articles.

After posting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palesti...acks_on_Israel

Read I guess? I'll only do so much for you. They haven't gotten a whole truck/launcher over but it doesn't take much to get the rockets over to gaza and fire them.

and some other choice posts, I would think it was pretty clear what I was talking about from my end, but confusion happens if someone misses some stuff.
 

hal2kilo

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This sort of outright pandering to AIPAC sounds like she is planning to run in 2016, which I think is a good thing.

She's an American politician running for public office. No other opinions are allowed if you expect to get elected. Standard fare.

Edit: Almost as bad as if you admit to being an atheist. Used to be if you admitted you were gay.
 

glenn1

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It wouldn't matter who was running against her?

If there was any time, it might be now for something different... but I know status quo garners vast support.

This isn't really about Warren's progressive ideology, it's about history which says populists (right or left) don't win. Populists tend to either run as a third candidate in the election, or cause a more centrist member of their party to run as an Independent. When a populist gets the nomination outright and runs without a third candidate they tend to get annihilated in the general election (see 1972). When they run as a third candidate (like 1948 or 1912) they tend to split the vote and deliver it to the centrist candidate of the opposite party.

Obviously it's not impossible for her to win, but it would almost certainly take either a supremely flawed GOP opponent to completely implode after nomination or both parties to splinter and be a 4-person race.
 

Jaskalas

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No, looting and grabing lands at gun point is not to defending yourself.

What i want, like the majority of the world, is that the palestiniansd are given back their rights recognized by UNO resolutions while what you re supporting is the constant violations of thoses resolutions by the usurpatory zionist regime, it s the name that fits it the best, it s truly an usurpatory regime that is prospering out of the palestinians rights violations.

Do you want the war and the killing to stop or not?

You're making excuses for its continuation.