Sen. Elizabeth Warren Defends Israeli Shelling of Gaza Schools, Hospitals

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Abwx

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Read the article they're pretty clear. That might not be the exact truck with rockets in the bed that they're using, but it's something very similar that are still called Katyusha. Widely exported by the soviet union to over 50 nations for decades... in other words only an idiot wouldn't believe it is incredibly easy to get your hands on.

Frankly, only a brainless dont know what are Katyushas and that palestinians never got such weapons, only states have theses, one who is not an idiot could rapidly deduce that you dont smuggle such heavy weaponry, or do you think that they built an underground highway..??..
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Frankly, only a brainless dont know what are Katyushas and that palestinians never got such weapons, only states have theses, one who is not an idiot could rapidly deduce that you dont smuggle such heavy weaponry, or do you think that they built an underground highway..??..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

Read I guess? I'll only do so much for you. They haven't gotten a whole truck/launcher over but it doesn't take much to get the rockets over to gaza and fire them.
 

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I'm not making the claim the article is. Are you saying they are lying?

No, you're lying. Quote the article where it says that the Gazans have truck mounted battery fire rocket launchers.

The article also clearly states that Gazans have homemade qassam rockets rather than russian built hardware. They've apparently been able to smuggle in very limited numbers of Iranian & chinese rockets as well.
 
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AyashiKaibutsu

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No, you're lying. Quote the article where it says that the Gazans have truck mounted battery fire rocket launchers.

The article also clearly states that Gazans have homemade qassam rockets rather than russian built hardware.

They also have katyusha rockets, but not the trucks. I misspoke adding launcher onto the end. When a large rocket is being sent in your general direction, do you care if it was launched from the back of a truck made to carry it or from a large pipe with a car battery?
 

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Oh, so you were mistaken in making the claim that they did have such launchers?

Yes and? If someone was launching model rockets into your house and you were trying to figure out if you wanted to stop them. Would it matter if that person was on a truck or not?
 

Abwx

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

Read I guess? I'll only do so much for you. They haven't gotten a whole truck/launcher over but it doesn't take much to get the rockets over to gaza and fire them.

Oh, so now they have no truck mounted rockets, it s just the rockets, one by one...

Nice deflection from your previous post that repeated a phony propaganda, indeed i guess that palestinians are the people who are most vilified and lied about in the US, there must be 1000 new lies created everyday by the relentless zionist propaganda whose constant aim is to reverse the real situation with a 5000 tanks and 1000 planes strong army that plays the victim card when perpetrating war crimes against a defensless people who is branded as possessing WMDs, that is, it s WMDs , isnt it..?.


Yes and? If someone was launching model rockets into your house and you were trying to figure out if you wanted to stop them. Would it matter if that person was on a truck or not?

If you were launching rockets in your house that was confiscated by Jhhnn who use it for its own usage would be a much more accurate description..
 
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AyashiKaibutsu

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Oh, so now they have no truck mounted rockets, it s just the rockets, one by one...

Nice deflection from your previous post that repeated a phony propaganda, indeed i guess that palestinians are the people who are most vilified and lied about in the US, there must be 1000 new lies created everyday by the relentless zionist propaganda whose constant aim is to reverse the real situation with a 5000 tanks and 1000 planes strong army that plays the victim card when perpetrating war crimes against a defensless people.

Read above. Oh noes poor Palestinians don't have trucks to launch their heavy rockets from. Have pity on them and let them just continue their attacks.
 

Abwx

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Read above. Oh noes poor Palestinians don't have trucks to launch their heavy rockets from. Have pity on them and let them just continue their attacks.

Palestinians are defending themselves, no one in his right mind would attack a 5000 tanks/1000 planes army if he wasnt actualy defending his rights, only a fool would said otherwise..
 
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Read the article they're pretty clear. That might not be the exact truck with rockets in the bed that they're using, but it's something very similar that are still called Katyusha. Widely exported by the soviet union to over 50 nations for decades... in other words only an idiot wouldn't believe it is incredibly easy to get your hands on.


Bolded is good advice. You should follow it. The [FONT=arial,helvetica]Katyusha style rockets mentioned are used by [/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica]Hezbollah and fired into Israel from Lebanon.

"[/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica]The Katyusha is used by Hezbollah and launched from Lebanon into northern Israel. Qassam rockets are instead used by Hamas in the Gaza Strip and fired upon Israeli communities" [/FONT]
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Bolded is good advice. You should follow it. The [FONT=arial,helvetica]Katyusha style rockets mentioned are used by [/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica]Hezbollah and fired into Israel from Lebanon.

"[/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica]The Katyusha is used by Hezbollah and launched from Lebanon into northern Israel. Qassam rockets are instead used by Hamas in the Gaza Strip and fired upon Israeli communities" [/FONT]

Read it again.
 

Abwx

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And so are the Israelis.

If Hamas wants to continue the violence and YOU continue to support them, why do you want the Palestinians dead?

No, looting and grabing lands at gun point is not to defending yourself.

What i want, like the majority of the world, is that the palestiniansd are given back their rights recognized by UNO resolutions while what you re supporting is the constant violations of thoses resolutions by the usurpatory zionist regime, it s the name that fits it the best, it s truly an usurpatory regime that is prospering out of the palestinians rights violations.
 

Abwx

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Read it again.

Yes, read it again :

[FONT=arial,helvetica]"[/FONT][FONT=arial,helvetica]The Katyusha is used by Hezbollah and launched from Lebanon into northern Israel. Qassam rockets are instead used by Hamas in the Gaza Strip and fired upon Israeli communities" [/FONT]
So Hezbollah has Katyushas while the Hamas has localy made Qassam rockets, but i guess that you dont know what are Qassam rockets..??
 

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Yes, read it again :


So Hezbollah has Katyushas while the Hamas has localy made Qassam rockets, but i guess that you dont know what are Qassam rockets..??

I guess you don't know there isn't only one type of rocket being fired? Try again; I'm not going to do it for you because any idiot should be able to read a wikipedia article.
 

Abwx

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I guess you don't know there isn't only one type of rocket being fired? Try again; I'm not going to do it for you because any idiot should be able to read a wikipedia article.

The idiot is the one that ignore that Qassam rockets are localy made in Gaza while Katyushas are manufactured in countries which have a minimal industrial infrastructure, these are not the same rockets at all, do your homework and then come back with better arguments, i guess that you WANT the palestinians to have actualy Katyushas, surely that you did spread this non sense in a ton of forums, hence the difficulty and the resistance to realize that you re a moron.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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The idiot is the one that ignore that Qassam rockets are localy made in Gaza while Katyushas are manufactured in countries which have a minimal industrial infrastructure, these are not the same rockets at all, do your homework and then come back with better arguments, i guess that you WANT the palestinians to have actualy Katyushas, surely that you did spread this non sense in a ton of forums, hence the difficulty and the resistance to realize that you re a moron.

Are you saying the wikipedia article and the sources it sites are lying now too? Or have you still not bothered to read the pertinent parts regarding katyusha rockets fired from gaza.

The funny thing is I don't really give a shit about the whole situation. Go ahead and keep living in your bubble where one side and almost all the third parties observing are lying through their teeth even when reality seems to support them and the other side is gospel.
 
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glenn1

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You kinda forgot FDR, also Reagan whose appeal was largely populist at the time.

Say anything convenient to your POV, right?

Calling FDR a populist is a stretch and actual populists like Huey Long, Townsend, and Father Coughlin opposed him bitterly. Most anything FDR did which seemed populist was in reaction to and a watered down version of what real populists wanted. Kinda like Obama and how he treated the "public option" you guys pushed for, which itself was several steps down from the single payer you really wanted.

Heck, Warren ain't even much of a populist, but she would still get destroyed in a general election should she get the Democratic nomination.
 

Abwx

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Are you saying the wikipedia article and the sources it sites are lying now too? Or have you still not bothered to read the pertinent parts regarding katyusha rockets fired from gaza.

There s no such weaponry in Gaza, their means are all well known and documented, heck, the Wikipedia article call thoses rockets "missiles" in some instances, wich is a lie , isnt it , because a missile is guided , otherwise it s called a rocket, but whatever that s not the point, the point is that israelis are for most of them living on privately owned lands that is legally owned by the palestinians and theses properties are recognized by UNO resolutions, to summarize, and it s what you dont understand, sovereignty over a land doesnt give the right to confiscate privately detained lands, hence the will of the israelis to stay in a war situation as they re using the pretense of war to not respect the very UNO resolution that created this usurpatory state.
 

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Heck, Warren ain't even much of a populist, but she would still get destroyed in a general election should she get the Democratic nomination.

It wouldn't matter who was running against her?

If there was any time, it might be now for something different... but I know status quo garners vast support.
 

JEDIYoda

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What i want, like the majority of the world, is that the palestiniansd are given back their rights recognized by UNO resolutions while what you re supporting is the constant violations of thoses resolutions by the usurpatory zionist regime, it s the name that fits it the best, it s truly an usurpatory regime that is prospering out of the palestinians rights violations.
Thank the God if Israel what you want doesn`t matter and will never happen!!
 

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Don't write a check with your mouth that your ass can't cash. It applies to kids in school playground and it also applies to nations, as Saddam found out the hard way.

Those people here who side with one side or the other in this conflict because of right and wrong are just pure naive. Open the world history book and see how many armed conflicts since the dawn of time were fought and won because of righteousness.

Israel should be applauded for their unbelievable restraint. If it were another nation like China, Russia, or us, the US of A, who got shelled across border with rockets you can bet your ass that the other not-so-neighborly neighbor would have been wiped off the map years ago.
 

Abwx

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Thank the God if Israel what you want doesn`t matter and will never happen!!

A 1000 years reich..?..

What will happen on the long term is that this pseudo state will be destroyed if it doesnt change its course, that s the only inheritage you ll give your children, a future where they will pay for your wrongdoings...
 

Abwx

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Don't write a check with your mouth that your ass can't cash. It applies to kids in school playground and it also applies to nations, as Saddam found out the hard way.

Those people here who side with one side or the other in this conflict because of right and wrong are just pure naive. Open the world history book and see how many armed conflicts since the dawn of time were fought and won because of righteousness.

Israel should be applauded for their unbelievable restraint. If it were another nation like China, Russia, or us, the US of A, who got shelled across border with rockets you can bet your ass that the other not-so-neighborly neighbor would have been wiped off the map years ago.

Neither Russians nor chinese live on grabbed land, the case of the US is somewhat different currently but the palestinians are exactly in the situation of the native american indians, killed on their own land by invaders, so branding the israelis rightous is just ridiculous and just aknowledge some zionist instilled mental slavery or/and racism towards palestinians, you should actualy apply your own advice and read through history, it s obvious that you know nothing of the problem, or rather your sources of informations are zionists propagandists.
 
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