Sen. Durbin says Obama had good agenda, but Republicans blocked it..seriously

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Hayabusa Rider

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Heh. Repubs have created a broad policy shift to the right, the far right, over the last 30 years, and now attempt to anchor it there, to prevent it shifting back. They clearly intend to destroy the economy and the power of the govt and egalitarian democracy with debt, taxcuts and offshoring.

I take you're another pseudo independent who supports that, right?

Wait, you're the guy that doesn't care if Congress passes an unconstitutional law if you agree with it, right? Yep that's you. When you grow up come back, because you don't understand how foolish you look when you mention "egalitarian democracy" in one thread and piss on the foundation which gave you that society in another.

Oh, and there's a lot I don't support on the Republican side, but then I care more about what's happening than who's doing it.
 

Craig234

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Not in the One Party Congress they are not. And that is the problem. One hopefully solved by the pending election and then fully resolved two years hence.

Yes, it is. Even in the House - which has passed over 300 bills that were killed in the Senate by the Republican abuse of the filibuster.

You say they're not. Why don't you post the number of people in the progressive caucus, and then the number of members of Congress, and we'll see who's right.

You won't. Because you rely on just carpeting bombing with falsehoods to argue.

And what is with the name calling?

There's no 'name calling'. I didn't call you a poopyhead, didn't comment on your genetic flaws, nothing that wasn't a comment about your posts.

There were two: one that your posts reflect ignorance, and the other that you post Rupert Murdoch propaganda. Both are easily demonstrated.

You may not like the truth, but as Harry Truman said, 'I don't give Republicans hell, I just tell the truth about them and they think it's hell.'

But instead of addressing the issues - your ignorance and propaganda parroting - you try to make a (false) attack instead to distract from the problems with your posts.

As your ideology is being decimated by its failure to deliver any result but a monstrous national debt and favored Party payoffs

No, you don't get to sneak your next lie in by putting it in the 'assumption' part of your comments.

The Democrats haven't got done as much as they should - again in large part by progressives not having a majority. But they have gotten a hell of a lot done anyway, as I've posted some lists before, and the larger issue is they're a whole lot better than the Republicans who are out to hurt Americans, period, for the benefit of a few. To return us to the extraction of wealth to the top from everyone else, weaken the economy, serve corporate agendas and so much more that they have done.

Government can never reduce poverty since it does not produce, but only consumes and squanders wealth.

Do I need to add idiocy to the description of your comments? They reinforce the comment on ignorance, as well.

They're beneath reply - like someone who argues that the Masons run everything or other such irrational nonsense.

Clearly government policy has a huge effect on wealth, poverty, and related matters, not because it 'produces things', but because it's the referee for the system.

Your argument is like saying that a quarterback's statistics aren't affected by the game's rules, because the NFL rulemakers don't throw the football.

Read the summary of Johnson again. For just one example, massive investment in education by *the government* has an impact on the economy in coming decades.

Lyndon Johnson's silly "war" on poverty

Cutting the percent of Americans under the poverty line that had held steady in the low 20's for a long time by a third to where it's held steady since isn't 'silly'.

Rather the word 'silly' for that reflects only on your being a blind ideologue with nothing but falsehoods for the discussion.

The War on Poverty was in reality a State-sponsored war on opportunities for the poor and on all Americans.

You're a worse ideologue than the truest believer who wrote for Pravda.

Let's contrast your parroted ideology on 'war on opportunity... for all Americans' with the paragraph I bolded above with the facts:

Most importantly, the Johnson administration presided over the longest upward curve of prosperity in the history of the nation. More than 85 months of unrivaled economic growth marked this as the strongest era of national prosperity. The average weekly wage of factory workers rose 18 percent in 4 years. Over 9 million additional workers were brought under minimum-wage protection. Total employment, increased by 7.5 million workers, added up to 75 million; the unemployment rate dropped to its lowest point in more than a decade.

Really, I'm guilty of not attacking your falsehood-filled posts with the language they deserve.
 

Craig234

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Wait, you're the guy that doesn't care if Congress passes an unconstitutional law if you agree with it, right? Yep that's you. When you grow up come back, because you don't understand how foolish you look when you mention "egalitarian democracy" in one thread and piss on the foundation which gave you that society in another.

Oh, and there's a lot I don't support on the Republican side, but then I care more about what's happening than who's doing it.

I don't know what you're talking about with Jhhnn - but what's clear is that you are not answering his points at all, just making ad hominem attacks in response.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I don't know what you're talking about with Jhhnn - but what's clear is that you are not answering his points at all, just making ad hominem attacks in response.


I had no interest justifying or explaining my position to him. I would have, but for
I take you're another pseudo independent who supports that, right?
As my old dad would have said I didn't see the need to confuse him with facts since he already had his mind made up.

The reference I was making was about his "Disclosure Act" thread and his approval of another poster who said he didn't care if it was Constitutional or not, then decrying those who are against democracy. It was sadly amusing.

I posted my commentary on the Act in that thread.
 

dmcowen674

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Really? You had an overwhelming majority in the senate and house...What more do you need? "YES WE CAN!!" No. you can't. Now shut the fuck up and go lose a bunch of your seats, assholes.

Continously lying that the Dems had an "overwhelming majority in the senate and house" does not and will never make that true.

History will show anti-Americans like you the truth all day long past you are gone.
 

dmcowen674

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Many independents are some of our most ignorant voters.

Durbin is right; the Republicans abused the filibuster to make 40 the new 51.

They deserve to be held accountable for their obstructionism, but people like MrMatt will play into their hands and blame the Democrats.

They'll then put the people with the bad agenda into power. There is criticism for Democrats, but the answer isn't the Republicans or Tea Party.

He's not "playing into their hands", people like him truly hate this country.
 

Craig234

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I had no interest justifying or explaining my position to him. I would have, but for As my old dad would have said I didn't see the need to confuse him with facts since he already had his mind made up.

The reference I was making was about his "Disclosure Act" thread and his approval of another poster who said he didn't care if it was Constitutional or not, then decrying those who are against democracy. It was sadly amusing.

I posted my commentary on the Act in that thread.

I think you misunderstood what he was endorsing from that post, as I said in that thread.
 

Craig234

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He's not "playing into their hands", people like him truly hate this country.

I disagree he 'really hates this country', in fact few 'really hate this country', but there are those who would greatly harm it for their own benefit, MrMatt serving them.

I think there are those who 'really hate democracy' and don't even realize it, confusing their hate of having to 'share' with how that's the common result of democracy.

Why do we even have democracy? So that the normally powerless masses can have a larger share of power than they have when power is based on wealth alone.