Sen. Dodd says he'll refinance Countrywide loans

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WASHINGTON, Feb 2 (Reuters) - Democratic Sen. Christopher Dodd said on Monday he will refinance two mortgages that he took out in 2003 under Countrywide Financial Corp's VIP program and later triggered a Senate ethics investigation.

The refinancing of his Washington townhouse and Connecticut home will end the Senate Banking Committee chairman's transactions with Countrywide.

Dodd, a Connecticut Democrat, said he regretted doing business with Countrywide, which was once the nation's largest home lender, and that he was publicly releasing all records in his possession related to the loans.

"I regret I did not do this sooner and I apologize to the people of Connecticut for the delay," he said in a statement.

As chairman of the Senate's banking panel, Dodd plays an influential role in overseeing laws that affect U.S. lenders, investment firms, international trade finance and housing.

Bank of America Corp (BAC.N) last year acquired Countrywide, a California-based firm blamed widely for helping to inflate the massive housing bubble that burst last year and sent the global financial system and the U.S. economy into a tailspin.

Dodd said he and his wife "acted properly in our mortgage refinancing negotiations. We did not seek or expect any special rates or terms on our loans and we never received any."

Dodd was offered the loans as part of Countrywide's VIP program. On Monday, Dodd said he was told that the VIP program was "nothing more than enhanced customer service" and his loan refinancings reflected the overall market rate at the time.

The senator said he decided to refinance his homes in Connecticut and in Washington in the spring of 2003, when U.S. mortgage rates dropped to nearly a 50-year low.

Documents released by Dodd showed he refinanced his Washington townhouse for $506,000 in a 30-year adjustable mortgage with the first five years at fixed interest rate of 4.25 percent. At the time, the home had an appraised value of $792,000.

The refinancing of Dodd's single-family home in Connecticut was for $275,042 in a 30-year adjustable note with the first 10 years at a fixed interest rate of 4.5 percent, according to the documents. The home had an appraised value of $500,000.

No points were charged on either refinanced loan, which the documents said was standard procedure for many homeowners in 2003.

Dodd also released a report from an independent firm, Cross Check Compliance, which analyzed market data on mortgage rates and fees from 2003 and concluded that the senator's loans were in line with the overall market at that time.

Dodd said that he and his wife would hire a third-party to negotiate the new loan terms on their behalf. (Reporting by Kevin Drawbaugh; editing by Jeffrey Benkoe and Tim Dobbyn)



He didn't ask for 'favorable' treatment, but he got it anyway......I wonder why it took him 5 years to be 'patriotic'.
 

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Uh, why do you always force us to read the shit you post and then always tell you that you didn't even read it?
 

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Uh, why do you always force us to read the shit you post and then always tell you that you didn't even read it?

He is a troll.. joined in March of this year, as the Presidential campaign really heated up and decided to fuck with everyone by posting this crap all the time. Pretty effective, too, threads generally get a ton of responses.
 

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Originally posted by: Farang
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He is a troll.. joined in March of this year, as the Presidential campaign really heated up and decided to fuck with everyone by posting this crap all the time. Pretty effective, too, threads generally get a ton of responses.

Originally posted by: dahunan
Uh, why do you always force us to read the shit you post and then always tell you that you didn't even read it?



Two responses that attack the poster instead of commenting on the news story he posted in Politics and News? :confused:

 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Farang
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He is a troll.. joined in March of this year, as the Presidential campaign really heated up and decided to fuck with everyone by posting this crap all the time. Pretty effective, too, threads generally get a ton of responses.

Originally posted by: dahunan
Uh, why do you always force us to read the shit you post and then always tell you that you didn't even read it?



Two responses that attack the poster instead of commenting on the news story he posted in Politics and News? :confused:

Guess you didn't read it either.. Join his club .. *rolls eyes*

His response insinuated that Dodd did something wrong.. RTFA
 

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Farang
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He is a troll.. joined in March of this year, as the Presidential campaign really heated up and decided to fuck with everyone by posting this crap all the time. Pretty effective, too, threads generally get a ton of responses.

Originally posted by: dahunan
Uh, why do you always force us to read the shit you post and then always tell you that you didn't even read it?



Two responses that attack the poster instead of commenting on the news story he posted in Politics and News? :confused:

Guess you didn't read it either.. Join his club .. *rolls eyes*

His response insinuated that Dodd did something wrong.. RTFA

Why do you think he's refinancing?
 
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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Farang
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He is a troll.. joined in March of this year, as the Presidential campaign really heated up and decided to fuck with everyone by posting this crap all the time. Pretty effective, too, threads generally get a ton of responses.

Originally posted by: dahunan
Uh, why do you always force us to read the shit you post and then always tell you that you didn't even read it?



Two responses that attack the poster instead of commenting on the news story he posted in Politics and News? :confused:

Guess you didn't read it either.. Join his club .. *rolls eyes*

His response insinuated that Dodd did something wrong.. RTFA

Why do you think he's refinancing?
Because the adjustable mortgage he got for his DC townhouse is no longer fixed, and mortgage rates are at a historical low point? Good time to refinance if need be, and he has a need.

There are plenty of things that the Dems are screwing up on. This ain't one of them. Nothing to see here.
 

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Dodd also released a report from an independent firm, Cross Check Compliance, which analyzed market data on mortgage rates and fees from 2003 and concluded that the senator's loans were in line with the overall market at that time.
So, much adieu about nothing. I was hoping, by the title, that he was doing it to all Countrywide's customers. I have a primary and HELOC through them.

And, oh sh*t, today i realized the HELOC, which is prime-.5 is at 2.75% now. It's about 40% the cost per month it was to maintain when I got it two and a bit years ago!
 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Dodd also released a report from an independent firm, Cross Check Compliance, which analyzed market data on mortgage rates and fees from 2003 and concluded that the senator's loans were in line with the overall market at that time.
So, much adieu about nothing. I was hoping, by the title, that he was doing it to all Countrywide's customers. I have a primary and HELOC through them.

And, oh sh*t, today i realized the HELOC, which is prime-.5 is at 2.75% now. It's about 40% the cost per month it was to maintain when I got it two and a bit years ago!


Dodd also assured the American public that Fannie May and Freddie Mac were in great financial shape last year...... so it's not like the man would lie.
 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Farang
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He is a troll.. joined in March of this year, as the Presidential campaign really heated up and decided to fuck with everyone by posting this crap all the time. Pretty effective, too, threads generally get a ton of responses.

Originally posted by: dahunan
Uh, why do you always force us to read the shit you post and then always tell you that you didn't even read it?



Two responses that attack the poster instead of commenting on the news story he posted in Politics and News? :confused:

I generally make a point not to call anyone names but the OP is a joke to be laughed at
 

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Dodd also released a report from an independent firm, Cross Check Compliance, which analyzed market data on mortgage rates and fees from 2003 and concluded that the senator's loans were in line with the overall market at that time.
So, much adieu about nothing. I was hoping, by the title, that he was doing it to all Countrywide's customers. I have a primary and HELOC through them.

And, oh sh*t, today i realized the HELOC, which is prime-.5 is at 2.75% now. It's about 40% the cost per month it was to maintain when I got it two and a bit years ago!


Dodd also assured the American public that Fannie May and Freddie Mac were in great financial shape last year...... so it's not like the man would lie.
I think he just doesn't know any better but likes to think he does. He has a grandiose way about him, a key problem being the inability to learn and admit fault. Something that affects most of us, but perhaps not with such a flair as he pulls it off with.
 

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Originally posted by: winnar111

He didn't ask for 'favorable' treatment, but he got it anyway......I wonder why it took him 5 years to be 'patriotic'.

Maybe it's because he did nothing wrong, and this even became relevant because he wants to avoid even the appearance of a possible conflict.

Do you have any evidence he did anything illegal, unethical or otherwise improper? If not, maybe you should wait until you do before wasting anymore forum space or bandwidth. :roll:
 

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: winnar111

He didn't ask for 'favorable' treatment, but he got it anyway......I wonder why it took him 5 years to be 'patriotic'.

Maybe it's because he did nothing wrong, and this even became relevant because he wants to avoid even the appearance of a possible conflict.

Do you have any evidence he did anything illegal, unethical or otherwise improper? If not, maybe you should wait until you do before wasting anymore forum space or bandwidth. :roll:

Maybe you could do the same with your Bush macros?
 

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Dodd also released a report from an independent firm, Cross Check Compliance, which analyzed market data on mortgage rates and fees from 2003 and concluded that the senator's loans were in line with the overall market at that time.
So, much adieu about nothing. I was hoping, by the title, that he was doing it to all Countrywide's customers. I have a primary and HELOC through them.

And, oh sh*t, today i realized the HELOC, which is prime-.5 is at 2.75% now. It's about 40% the cost per month it was to maintain when I got it two and a bit years ago!


Dodd also assured the American public that Fannie May and Freddie Mac were in great financial shape last year...... so it's not like the man would lie.

Gee.. is that as bad as Wolfowitz assuring all the congressmen and women that Iraq qould only cost maybe 3-4 billion and then the rest would be paid with Iraqi oil...

^^^^^^^^ where does Bush promote flunkies like that?????? TELL US


Initials WB.. not Warner Brothers .. lol.. PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD BANK :-(
 

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Another golden post by Winnar. How long until he runs in shame from this one too?
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Dodd also released a report from an independent firm, Cross Check Compliance, which analyzed market data on mortgage rates and fees from 2003 and concluded that the senator's loans were in line with the overall market at that time.
So, much adieu about nothing. I was hoping, by the title, that he was doing it to all Countrywide's customers. I have a primary and HELOC through them.

And, oh sh*t, today i realized the HELOC, which is prime-.5 is at 2.75% now. It's about 40% the cost per month it was to maintain when I got it two and a bit years ago!


Dodd also assured the American public that Fannie May and Freddie Mac were in great financial shape last year...... so it's not like the man would lie.
I think he just doesn't know any better but likes to think he does. He has a grandiose way about him, a key problem being the inability to learn and admit fault. Something that affects most of us, but perhaps not with such a flair as he pulls it off with.

The problem is the lack of accountability.

 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Dodd also released a report from an independent firm, Cross Check Compliance, which analyzed market data on mortgage rates and fees from 2003 and concluded that the senator's loans were in line with the overall market at that time.
So, much adieu about nothing. I was hoping, by the title, that he was doing it to all Countrywide's customers. I have a primary and HELOC through them.

And, oh sh*t, today i realized the HELOC, which is prime-.5 is at 2.75% now. It's about 40% the cost per month it was to maintain when I got it two and a bit years ago!


Dodd also assured the American public that Fannie May and Freddie Mac were in great financial shape last year...... so it's not like the man would lie.

Gee.. is that as bad as Wolfowitz assuring all the congressmen and women that Iraq qould only cost maybe 3-4 billion and then the rest would be paid with Iraqi oil...

^^^^^^^^ where does Bush promote flunkies like that?????? TELL US


Initials WB.. not Warner Brothers .. lol.. PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD BANK :-(

I don't know, is it?

Didn't Obama say that he would make Iraq pay us back?


 

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I've been a mortgage guy for 15 years, and I can't see a single thing even remotely odd here. C'wide did prime loans as well as subprime and was a completely reputable institution, and ~4.5% 5/1 ARM was a typical prime mortgage rate in 2003. Those 5 years are up, fixed mortgage rates are at historic lows... sounds like a great time to refi.

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Why did Reuters publish the article?
Because they know how much reactionary dipshits like yourself and the OP love sensationalism and phony outrage?
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: Vic
I've been a mortgage guy for 15 years, and I can't see a single thing even remotely odd here. C'wide did prime loans as well as subprime and was a completely reputable institution, and ~4.5% 5/1 ARM was a typical prime mortgage rate in 2003. Those 5 years are up, fixed mortgage rates are at historic lows... sounds like a great time to refi.

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Why did Reuters publish the article?
Because they know how much reactionary dipshits like yourself and the OP love sensationalism and phony outrage?


Why are liberal women so angry?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Vic
I've been a mortgage guy for 15 years, and I can't see a single thing even remotely odd here. C'wide did prime loans as well as subprime and was a completely reputable institution, and ~4.5% 5/1 ARM was a typical prime mortgage rate in 2003. Those 5 years are up, fixed mortgage rates are at historic lows... sounds like a great time to refi.

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Why did Reuters publish the article?
Because they know how much reactionary dipshits like yourself and the OP love sensationalism and phony outrage?


Why are liberal women so angry?

Are you talking about yourself?
 

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Originally posted by: alien42
uhhhhhh, so what is the problem here?

Disclosure: I'm from CT but certainly no big fan of Dodd (he's not as bad as his father was), been involved professionally in real estate financing at the retail level for 20+ years, and (unfotunately) have my personal mortgage with Countrywide, whom I detest (it was sold to them after closing).

This was a big news story last summer when the financial crisis (and Congressional investigations thereof) first hit. Back then I said pretty much the same thing as I say now: lenders have all kinds of "special" programs-it's almost like if you are not in a VIP or elite borrower type program then you are really a subprime borrower. Nothing has come out that indicates Dodd got anything more than you or I could have. Or, more importantly, that he gave Countrywide anything (he has been a pretty brutal critic of them all along).

So alien42, you are basically right-nothing here. Strident political whiners will try to make something out of it, though.