Sempron 754 is were it's at.

[Zebo]

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While the numerology is BS the 1.8 (3100+) Sempron seems the chip to get for those who understand value. 1.8Ghz and it's right there with it's full fledged A64 brother, the 1.8Ghz (2800+). I suspect prices will drop sub $100 and overclocks will be sky high

Poor celeronD....so much promise...yet so slow.

 

[Dubb]

WHERE

 

[Zebo]

It'll be out soon

















...I know i know spelling anzi

 

[Corporate Thug]

hmmm, isnt it smarter just to spring for the extra $20 for the 2800+ A64???

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: shady06
hmmm, isnt it smarter just to spring for the extra $20 for the 2800+ A64???

That's why It'll be less than $100...when we are already seeing $144 2800+...$120 for the "crippled" sempron is'nt sustainable.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: shady06
hmmm, isnt it smarter just to spring for the extra $20 for the 2800+ A64???

That's why It'll be less than $100...when we are already seeing $144 2800+...$120 for the "crippled" sempron is'nt sustainable.

It'd better drop in price compared to the A64 2800+ or it's a joke. $20-$30 to give up 64bitness is a no go.

 

[lookouthere]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: shady06
hmmm, isnt it smarter just to spring for the extra $20 for the 2800+ A64???

That's why It'll be less than $100...when we are already seeing $144 2800+...$120 for the "crippled" sempron is'nt sustainable.

AMD always quote higher
but the actual marketplace price is much lower......
it could be around $105 but who knows?
they have better price than Intel...much better

 

[Avalon]

It's good to see the A64 2800+ and Sempr0n 3100+ are virtually identical in performance, despite the lack of 256kb of cache. I'll be looking out for a good overclocking s754 sempron as well
What would an extra 256kb of cache typically be useful for? It doesn't seem to make much difference in gaming, save 1 fps or so.

 

[Jeff7181]

If I can get a good socket 754 motherboard and CPU for less than $100 after selling off my current mobo/cpu I'm definately upgrading.

 

[alent1234]

I was looking at the A64 3500 with the new reduced price of $345, but now I'll probably go for the Sempron. 20% more speed isn't worth 3x the price.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: alent1234
I was looking at the A64 3500 with the new reduced price of $345, but now I'll probably go for the Sempron. 20% more speed isn't worth 3x the price.

I just wish they ran on a 333 MHz FSB so the multiplier was higher and made it easier to overclock.

 

[alent1234]

personally i'm not into OC'ing but I'm glad AMD came out with this since I'll now have the cash to buy an x800 or a 6800 with the upgrade. I really don't need 64 bit for anything since I don't plan to run huge terabyte size databases on my PC.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: alent1234
I was looking at the A64 3500 with the new reduced price of $345, but now I'll probably go for the Sempron. 20% more speed isn't worth 3x the price.

I just wish they ran on a 333 MHz FSB so the multiplier was higher and made it easier to overclock.

What are U talking about? The A64 does not have a FSB, the mem. cont. is on the chip.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: alent1234
I was looking at the A64 3500 with the new reduced price of $345, but now I'll probably go for the Sempron. 20% more speed isn't worth 3x the price.

I just wish they ran on a 333 MHz FSB so the multiplier was higher and made it easier to overclock.

What are U talking about? The A64 does not have a FSB, the mem. cont. is on the chip.

Obviously... but the multiplier is 9, and the clock speed is 1800 MHz... so I wish the multiplier was like 11 or something to make it easier to overclock and keep the RAM in sync. To get to 2.4 GHz with a multiplier of 9 you need the RAM to run at 266 MHz.

Excuse me for using the term "FSB" when speaking of the Athlon-64

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: alent1234
I was looking at the A64 3500 with the new reduced price of $345, but now I'll probably go for the Sempron. 20% more speed isn't worth 3x the price.

I just wish they ran on a 333 MHz FSB so the multiplier was higher and made it easier to overclock.

What are U talking about? The A64 does not have a FSB, the mem. cont. is on the chip.

Obviously... but the multiplier is 9, and the clock speed is 1800 MHz... so I wish the multiplier was like 11 or something to make it easier to overclock and keep the RAM in sync. To get to 2.4 GHz with a multiplier of 9 you need the RAM to run at 266 MHz.

Excuse me for using the term "FSB" when speaking of the Athlon-64

Not really. Set the ram at 166Mhz and then start to overclock. Then your ram would be 233, or set it at 133 then you will be at 200, etc...
I have my Ram at 166 and then raised the clock Mhz. The ram speed is not as important with the A64. Yes it helps being higher, but no where near as much with Intels stuff.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: alent1234
I was looking at the A64 3500 with the new reduced price of $345, but now I'll probably go for the Sempron. 20% more speed isn't worth 3x the price.

I just wish they ran on a 333 MHz FSB so the multiplier was higher and made it easier to overclock.

What are U talking about? The A64 does not have a FSB, the mem. cont. is on the chip.

Obviously... but the multiplier is 9, and the clock speed is 1800 MHz... so I wish the multiplier was like 11 or something to make it easier to overclock and keep the RAM in sync. To get to 2.4 GHz with a multiplier of 9 you need the RAM to run at 266 MHz.

Excuse me for using the term "FSB" when speaking of the Athlon-64

Not really. Set the ram at 166Mhz and then start to overclock. Then your ram would be 233, or set it at 133 then you will be at 200, etc...
I have my Ram at 166 and then raised the clock Mhz. The ram speed is not as important with the A64. Yes it helps being higher, but no where near as much with Intels stuff.

I see... good to know.

 

[Shimmishim]

agreed!

i am running a "fsb" of 275 but use the 166 mhz ratio so my ram runs to 230

 

[UNCjigga]

Sempron is almost a surefire hit with the builder/overclocker community EXCEPT for the fact that Socket 754 seems to be a dying platform. I could buy a Sempron instead of an A64 and use the money saved to invest in nicer motherboard/ram, but would it be worth it? What kind of upgrade path am I securing? Newer Athlon64s with dual-channel memory controllers onboard are 939/940 only so there's no way you'll see them on 754...and I don't know how many new 754 parts are left on AMD's roadmap. The way I see it, my money is better spent on a Socket 939 Neo2 board vs. a Socket 754 Neo.

 

[coldpower27]

The price of entry into the Socket 939 arenas is still quite high, @ approximately 350US. At that price it would be better to get a Sempron and mobo now for less then the Athlon 64 3500+ processor, and then wait for a newer revision of the Athlon 64 say Athlon 64 with DDR2 memory support and then by that set of processor and mobo.

 

[alent1234]

Originally posted by: Jigga
Sempron is almost a surefire hit with the builder/overclocker community EXCEPT for the fact that Socket 754 seems to be a dying platform. I could buy a Sempron instead of an A64 and use the money saved to invest in nicer motherboard/ram, but would it be worth it? What kind of upgrade path am I securing? Newer Athlon64s with dual-channel memory controllers onboard are 939/940 only so there's no way you'll see them on 754...and I don't know how many new 754 parts are left on AMD's roadmap. The way I see it, my money is better spent on a Socket 939 Neo2 board vs. a Socket 754 Neo.

but there is no performance difference with current 939 setups, and probably won't be until the 2nd generation of socket 939 mobo's and CPU's. And any software that will take advantage of 939 is still years away.

 

[Yanagi]

Socket 754 will be the budget platform so expect faster semprons in the future.

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

i know a64's dont have a "fsb" per say cause the memory controller communicates at the processor's speed, but why do they always list them with a fsb of 800... is this just to be comparable to intel, or is there anything in the processor working at 800, also what is with the amd marketing of "Hypertransport speed up to 1600 mhz"? what on earth is doing 1600 mhz?

 

[magratton]

Huh, I missed that article. So the question turns to (forgive my n00b ignorance): Is it worth it to dump my NF7/Mobile2500 for XYZ754/Sempron 3100? How well does my OC'd 2500 measure up to even and oc'd sempron 3100? Is it worth the $100?

 

[Xenon14]

Originally posted by: magratton
Huh, I missed that article. So the question turns to (forgive my n00b ignorance): Is it worth it to dump my NF7/Mobile2500 for XYZ754/Sempron 3100? How well does my OC'd 2500 measure up to even and oc'd sempron 3100? Is it worth the $100?

A sempron is pretty much an Athlon64 without the 64 capabilities. Bottom line: A64 > Sempron > XP

 

[Nyati13]

Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
i know a64's dont have a "fsb" per say cause the memory controller communicates at the processor's speed, but why do they always list them with a fsb of 800... is this just to be comparable to intel, or is there anything in the processor working at 800, also what is with the amd marketing of "Hypertransport speed up to 1600 mhz"? what on earth is doing 1600 mhz?

The HTT link is 800MHz uni-directional, with 2 paths (one up, one down) adding up to a "1600 MHz Link".
The MB makers, or retail stores are all used to quoting an FSB, and so they use the clock speed of the HTT link to fill in that empty field.

Socket 939 is also compatible with the 1000 MHz HTT link on the newer A64 CPUs.

Jeremy