Sempron 3100+ the new overclockers choice?

[Zebo]

2520 Mhz on only 1.65 Vcore and modest air.


$99 bucks!! Not bad.
Way too many synthetics by this x-bit labs site so I hate to point there but still...

Having thoroughly examined various overclocking-related properties of the new Sempron 3100+ processor from AMD, we can claim that it?s a real overclocker?s choice. Costing about $120 ? and this price is going to go down to $100 in a month ? this CPU allows clocking itself by 40% higher above the nominal frequency. Such overclocking doesn?t require any special equipment ? you only need an ordinary cooler and mainboard. ....

Thanks to that, the overclocked Sempron 3100+ could outperform the Pentium 4 3.4GHz as well as the Athlon 64 3400+ (2.2 claw) by about 5% in average..

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...t/sempron-3100-oc.html



Remember thier earlier test? http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl...u/print/celeron-d.html

CeleronD OCed to 3.8Ghz losing to a 3.2E stock?

Well, this AMD Sempron beats even the 3.4E and 3.4C nicely and obviously would destroy that wildly overclcoked CeleronD from the previous review.

 

[scaryclownsarefun]

the sempron sucks, for $20 more you can get the 2800 that has twice tha cache, the same overclockability (or better) and 64 bit support.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: scaryclownsarefun
the sempron sucks, for $20 more you can get the 2800 that has twice tha cache, the same overclockability (or better) and 64 bit support.

Sucks? Look at the benches clueless one! Rules?

$20 more is BS, I checked pricewatch the cheapest A64 2800 is $137 while the cheapest Sempron is $99! That's $38 difference! Or 33%. For what? 64 bit? What does anyone need that for? And none of pentium desktops have it.

 

[suklee]

Very nice CPU indeed, but unfortunately here the Sempron 3100+ is close to US$130 :Q , and the A64-2800+ US$146... With a difference that small, people are going to get the A64 2800+.

Price for the Sempron will probably drop though to US$99 levels...

 

[suklee]

BTW, why are Semprons going from 1.8 to 2.5 so easily? Is it because it has less cache?

 

[karlreading]

Originally posted by: Kai920
BTW, why are Semprons going from 1.8 to 2.5 so easily? Is it because it has less cache?

cache will definatly hit the nail on the head, plus i just think that amds dies are nice and mature now.
karlos

 

[karlreading]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: scaryclownsarefun
the sempron sucks, for $20 more you can get the 2800 that has twice tha cache, the same overclockability (or better) and 64 bit support.

Sucks? Look at the benches clueless one! Rules?

$20 more is BS, I checked pricewatch the cheapest A64 2800 is $137 while the cheapest Sempron is $99! That's $38 difference! Or 33%. For what? 64 bit? What does anyone need that for? And none of pentium desktops have it.

Less harshe on the 64bit mate, i feel a big 64 bit push IS in the wind, and IMHO its is a value added feature. if you overclock, 9 times out of ten youll be a enthusiast, and we all like a certain brag ability from our products. 64 bit is a checklist feature most enthusiasts would love to have, and i feel its worth the extra 38$, specially, if like me, todays wonder chip will be powering your gateway / server box tommorow, by which timne a tasty copy of server 64-bit will be running on it

and dont forget, the sempy only running 256k cache, not the 512 like a NC.

Now dont get me wrong, its obv these things are clocking better than most 2800+'s. Im in no way saying the sempy is a bad chip, its excellent, and a real price/perf winner if these overclocks are the norm, but i would still get a " real " K8 over a sempy if i had to choose.
karlos

 

[Machine350]

Originally posted by: Zebo
2520 Mhz on only 1.65 Vcore and modest air.


$99 bucks!! Not bad.
Way too many synthetics by this x-bit labs site so I hate to point there but still...

Exactly, I wonder how the sempron does in real world games?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: karlreading

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: scaryclownsarefun
the sempron sucks, for $20 more you can get the 2800 that has twice tha cache, the same overclockability (or better) and 64 bit support.

Sucks? Look at the benches clueless one! Rules?

$20 more is BS, I checked pricewatch the cheapest A64 2800 is $137 while the cheapest Sempron is $99! That's $38 difference! Or 33%. For what? 64 bit? What does anyone need that for? And none of pentium desktops have it.

Less harshe on the 64bit mate, i feel a big 64 bit push IS in the wind, and IMHO its is a value added feature. if you overclock, 9 times out of ten youll be a enthusiast, and we all like a certain brag ability from our products. 64 bit is a checklist feature most enthusiasts would love to have, and i feel its worth the extra 38$, specially, if like me, todays wonder chip will be powering your gateway / server box tommorow, by which timne a tasty copy of server 64-bit will be running on it

and dont forget, the sempy only running 256k cache, not the 512 like a NC.

Now dont get me wrong, its obv these things are clocking better than most 2800+'s. Im in no way saying the sempy is a bad chip, its excellent, and a real price/perf winner if these overclocks are the norm, but i would still get a " real " K8 over a sempy if i had to choose.
karlos

You make lots of sense and I agree...I already have a 3000 A64. But if I had to buy now..I'd probably get this sempron....it's price to performance is unmatched... this still seems to be great option for a) value buyers thinking about mobile Xps or celeronD's, no reason at all since this baby destroys them both for same price b) any Intel buyer since no desktop intel system are 64bit compatable anyway c) anyone who's going to upgrade by the time this 64bit wind comes.

This covers lots of people

look at it this way.. You could buy a 2.6C/2.8C and go to 3500Mhz for $180 or get similar performace for half that amount

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: karlreading

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: scaryclownsarefun
the sempron sucks, for $20 more you can get the 2800 that has twice tha cache, the same overclockability (or better) and 64 bit support.

Sucks? Look at the benches clueless one! Rules?

$20 more is BS, I checked pricewatch the cheapest A64 2800 is $137 while the cheapest Sempron is $99! That's $38 difference! Or 33%. For what? 64 bit? What does anyone need that for? And none of pentium desktops have it.

Less harshe on the 64bit mate, i feel a big 64 bit push IS in the wind, and IMHO its is a value added feature. if you overclock, 9 times out of ten youll be a enthusiast, and we all like a certain brag ability from our products. 64 bit is a checklist feature most enthusiasts would love to have, and i feel its worth the extra 38$, specially, if like me, todays wonder chip will be powering your gateway / server box tommorow, by which timne a tasty copy of server 64-bit will be running on it

and dont forget, the sempy only running 256k cache, not the 512 like a NC.

Now dont get me wrong, its obv these things are clocking better than most 2800+'s. Im in no way saying the sempy is a bad chip, its excellent, and a real price/perf winner if these overclocks are the norm, but i would still get a " real " K8 over a sempy if i had to choose.
karlos

You make lots of sense and I agree...I already have a 3000 A64. But if I had to buy now..I'd probably get this sempron....it's price to performance is unmatched... this still seems to be great option for a) value buyers thinking about mobile Xps or celeronD's, no reason at all since this baby destroys them both for same price b) any Intel buyer since no desktop intel system are 64bit compatable anyway c) anyone who's going to upgrade by the time this 64bit wind comes.

This covers lots of people

look at it this way.. You could buy a 2.6C/2.8C and go to 3500Mhz for $180 or get similar performace for half that amount

I have a 2.6c that only does 3.25 ghz, no more, and thats with corsair bh-5.

I think I am going to get rid of my p4 setup, board, cpu, and memory, and get a sempron setup. Those scores are just too awesome.


zebo, where can i get a 3100 sempron for $99

 

[BlvdKing]

NewEgg

 

[slag]

Thats $100.00 for the oem which is worthless because it has no heatsink. You are going to need a good heatsink to run this chip. The retails come with a heatsink, the oem's do not, so listing an oem processor does no good.

 

[Zebo]

I've never used a stock HS and latly I dont even use HS at all... But ya if you need a stock HSF and 3 yr warranty the 2800 A64 is a better deal. Can OC the same an price is $141 vs $120. But if you buy an after market HS or use waterblocks $137 loses to $99 IMO.

If I were you I don't know if I would upgrade at all.?

 

[nitromullet]

This Sempron 3100+ wouldn't be a bad way to go. You could get a Sempron 3100+ now, and next year when the A64 3700+ becomes cheap and 64-bit may actually be relevant, you would have yourself a nice upgrade path.

 

[Avalon]

I wouldn't mind upgrading to a sempr0n for $99 and a DFI NF3 board
Saving up some money so that some sort of upgrade can become a reality sometime soon.
I never get around to ugprading

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I've never used a stock HS and latly I dont even use HS at all... But ya if you need a stock HSF and 3 yr warranty the 2800 A64 is a better deal. Can OC the same an price is $141 vs $120. But if you buy an after market HS or use waterblocks $137 loses to $99 IMO.

If I were you I don't know if I would upgrade at all.?

Well, the sempron overclocked with a 6800 video card would rock in games versus the pentium 4 processor I believe.

It looks faster, even overclocked, than the 2800 A64

 

[charloscarlies]

Just picked up a Sempy earlier today from my local store. I'll post some results this weekend when I get a chance to test her out.

 

[ksherman]

Thats $100.00 for the oem which is worthless because it has no heatsink. You are going to need a good heatsink to run this chip. The retails come with a heatsink, the oem's do not, so listing an oem processor does no good.

too bad that the orignal poster is talking bout OCing the sempron... If you are going to OC anything, you need somethin MUCH better than the stock cooler. The stock coolers are crap (manufacturing and performance wise) compared to, say the Thermaltake SilentBoost HS that were used in the review and only cost about $25, bringing total cost to around $130, same price as a retail CPU.

and dont forget, the sempy only running 256k cache, not the 512 like a NC.

Dont forget that it was fund that the halfing of the Cache, didnt affect performance very well...

Personally, I think this Sempron kicks... you can get the same (or better in some cases) performance out of a $100 (or 130 with HSF) than you do out of a 3400+ for over $250... Thats what sets us ATers apart from the rest of the comupter junkies, we know how and what to spend our money on!

 

[scaryclownsarefun]

wow, i didn't realize the sempron was down to $100. that is a $37 price drop from it's 64 bit 512K cache wielding brother and brobably a good deal. personally, i nead a cpu that will last me 3-4 years, however. that is the main reason i overclock, and that is why i am going to get the 2800 with 64 bit support.

 

[imported_Kiwi]

Originally posted by: kshermanThe stock coolers are crap (manufacturing and performance wise) compared to, say the Thermaltake SilentBoost HS that were used in the review and only cost about $25, bringing total cost to around $130, same price as a retail CPU.

Not having been into the OC thing, I have used retail AMD hsf's some, without objectionable heat or noise, save for an older 1.33 T-Bird that always was a heat generator. But as the performance and attendant heat production ramped on up, the stock hsf's didn't seem to keep up. That was looking obvious from AMD's XP 2600 Thoroughbreds and upward but I've not had one of the newer Bartons faster than a 2800 (yet).

I used a Vantec AeroFlow on the 2800 and it's running cooler than either the T-Bird or the 2600. But the 2600 is about to move into an old pre-owned and shallow horizontal case in which the air circulation could prove to be poor (to be used as a HTPC/ DVR), so I just bought one of those SilentBoost hsf's at a local retailer, not known for discounted pricing. I paid $18.50 before local sales taxes. I'm planning to go way-over its needs on a large PSU with a lot of fan capacity, so the PSU itself is just idling, but its fans *should* help a lot to pull the SilentBoost's exhaust air right on out.


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