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Sempron 3100+ socket 754 in socket A?

Eurekabox

Junior Member
Hi.

A local dealer says he can put a sempron 3100+ socket 754 into a socket A (462), i myself haven't seen a motherboard with socket 754 nor the sempron 3100+. So i dont know.

But i assume the sockets are differents, and that cant be done.

That's why because he is gonna replace a athlon XP 3200+ that failed, but now he wants to put the sempron 3100+, because he cant get the XP 3200+ anymore (too expensive 347 dollars here in mexico). then he says, he is gonna update the Bios, so the motherboard recognizes the sempron 3100+ socket 754.

I know that there are 2 version for the sempron, 462 and 754, the 462 upto 2800. and only one 754, the 3100+.

So i think, if that cant be done, he is gonna put a sempron 462 2800+, and overclockit upto 3100.

Please help. i need some knowlegde before go into debate. I searched the net for socket photos, i could not find anything.

thanks
 
Doing a bios update allows the motherboard to recognize a Sempron socket 462. Naturally, doing a bios update is not going to magically turn turn the motherboard into a socket 754 unit!
 
Although on prior changes in cpu packaging, as from Socket 5 to Slot1/ SlotA, there were assorted adapters to allow old motherboards to be more or less upgraded, that was a very different era of personal computer development. No such adapters exist now to bridge the gap between 462 and 754. On the other hand, there really still are plenty of XP 3200+ cpu's in the retail pipeline, although the prices have definitely climbed back upward as the numbers available declined.


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well it can beacause the introduced a 3000+ sempron(barton core at 2.0) so this is likely a barton core at 2.083 or something
 
Are that webpages wrong or what? please clarify.

I think he's on his way overclockin it.

Is there a way to change the windows's report about the processor in system properties without overclock?

What are the physical differencies between socket 462 and 754? more pines? size?

I am not dealing personally with this guy, the problem is in my wife's work. She told me, and i said what i know: that can't be done.

Anyways the PC is on its way to "support" a socket 754 processor.

My wife is gonna check up the PC when it's back. And i'll be back here to tell you how this ended.

Thanks.
 
The difference is about 292 pins (that's how they get the socket name...), and of course size. It's impossible to use a 754 chip on a SktA board.

I'm not sure why you want to change Windows' processor info without overclocking it, because it doesn't do anything for you...
 
Thanks for the pin info.

Well, i dont want to do that. I am just asking if that info can be changed. because the dealer "has" to return a pc with a sempron "3100+" 754 proc (in socket A mobo).





 
Originally posted by: sm8000
There is no Socket A 3100+. The 3100+ Sempron is 754 only, and is incompatible with the Socket A platform.

AMD
How did you get that information from the link you provided?
 
Yeah, I know they don't get specific enough on their website. Tell you what, try researching Socket A Sempron 3100+ and see if you find anything. Or, on AMD's website, read the documentation of the 3100+ and see if it says it's Socket A.
 
What ever you do, DO NOT BUY FROM EXTREAM GEAR!!!

I've only heard of 754 3100+s, but hey, the world is a crazy and fast changing place.
 
Well, the origin of this topic is that: the dealer has to replace a athlon XP 3200+, but i think he dont want to replace it with the same model because the prices did not drop for that model.

Then, he said he's gonna replace it with a sempron 3100+ (he did not specify what socket), so my wife asked me, and i told her that's impossible because the sempron 3100+ is socket 754 (but i did not know the physical differencies between 462 and 754, so i was in doubt).

that's why i posted this topic. And i know now that there is over 200 pins between 462 and 754.


I told this to my wife, she told this to the dealer and his resonse was: it does not matter, it will fit in anyway, and with a bios update the motherboard will recognize it.

The dealer says he's gonna put a sempron 3100+ in a socket A mother. He never said what socket.

Butttttt we all know that there is no sempron 3100+ socket A. So i assume he tried to cheat my wife, and in the end he's gonna put a sempron 2800 or 3000 socket A, and overclockit so the motherboard tells it is a 3100+.

Well i'm in doubt of that too, because the bios should be able to recognize a processor that does not exist for socket A platform.

So to resume. The dealer is trying to cheat my wife.

But until the PC is returned we all know what he tried to do.

Bye
 
The xtreme gear link to a sempron 3100+ has a picture of it, and you can click on the pic to enlarge it. It says sempron 3100+, socket A. I'm kind of doubtful that ztreme gear would photoshop an image, but I guess they have a pretty poor reputation, and might stoop to stuff like that.

I have previously never heard of a proc like that, I'm not sure whether to believe your dealer or not.
 
There are socket A and socket 754 Semprons. The socket 754 ones are the ONLY ones based on the Athlon-64 core with the on die memory controller. The socket A ones are Athlon XP based.
 
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