Sempron 2500+ not running at stock

Marsumane

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Heres the deal. Im building a computer for my gf's younger brother. He wanted a gaming tower for under $500 and so i chose a retail sempron 2500+, 512mb of munchkin pc 3200 ram, an nf7 motherboard and a 350w antec psu among other irrelevent components.

I assembled the computer, just as i did with about 10 other socket 462 computers by putting the stock hs/fan on the cpu, etc etc. I just used the thermal compound that was on the heatsink. And yes, i did take off the plastic cover (obviously). The machine installed windows fine and I got all of the drivers installed. It seemed to be fine and sat in windows fine overnight. I then woke up and tried to run 3dmark2001 to just see how it faired out in that test. Near the end of the final test, the machine cut its own power and started beeping from the case speaker. I have no programs running to shut it down at a certian temp and in the bios i disabled the ability as well. I have no idea what made this shut down. I tried it once more and got the same result.

When i lowered the fsb to 133 it was stable. Ran P95 for about 10 mins and then restarted and upped it to 150. Its not running stable (20 mins as of 10:17).

Heres the catch. After the computer would die at 166fsb and i repower up the computer, bios reports a cpu temp of 52 degrees. The Abit utility included on the cd also reports around 52-56 degrees DISPITE my fsp setting. It often shuts down at LOWER temp then when it actually ends up at when it is running at the lower, more stable fsb speeds. (52 vs 57) Also reported is a cpu fan speed of 3200rpms which eliminates the fan variable.

I understand that these temps arent the coolest, but they are DEFINATELY not too hot to cause damage according to bios and the abit utility that i run while running p95. So my question is: what is making this shut down? There is no other settings that I can see within the bios that would make this behave like this and cut the power.

My second question is the obvious: what is causing this to shut down? I know its the cpu because when i lower the fsb it doesnt shut down under the P95 torture tests. I dont see anything other then temp that could cause this, but my temps seem to be atleast not "too hot" according to abit and the bios. Its like theres another probe within the mobo that is around the cpu that is heating up too much or just that the bios is malfunctioning. Any ideas? Im almost to the point of putting some AS5 on there and redoing the whole setup but I really would like to try out anything else first if u guys have any other ideas.
 

Fern

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HERE are the beep codes for the mobo.

Are you getting the two-tone siren?

Fern
 

Ioo

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could be bad memory, or a bad mobo too...

You need to check your mobo manual, or call Abit and get a list of the Beep codes. The beeping pattern your computer makes when it shuts down should tell you why it went down.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Got the latest bios? Is the cooler hot if you touch it near the bottom? Fan seem to be spinning properly? How 'bout the NB&SB, are either hot? If all that cheaks out and that board allows chipset voltage increase, I'd bump it a notch just in case for some reason it isn't stable with default voltage@166fsb. I would also set up all votages, timings, ect manually in expert mode since that is always nuke-proof with nF2 for me. Set the TRAS to 9-11 and set the ram to run synch 166mhz since it'll actually be faster that way because of the asynch latency penalty nF2 suffers from.
 

Marsumane

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Got the latest bios? Is the cooler hot if you touch it near the bottom? Fan seem to be spinning properly? How 'bout the NB&SB, are either hot? If all that cheaks out and that board allows chipset voltage increase, I'd bump it a notch just in case for some reason it isn't stable with default voltage@166fsb. I would also set up all votages, timings, ect manually in expert mode since that is always nuke-proof with nF2 for me. Set the TRAS to 9-11 and set the ram to run synch 166mhz since it'll actually be faster that way because of the asynch latency penalty nF2 suffers from.

Very good ideas. I typically look elsewhere other then the bios and psu when the box says "Sempron Compatable" on the front and I have a good named psu. But still im sure these could be issues. And yes everything says the cpu is cool except for the error i get. The northbridge is a bit warm, but id assume its functional. The heatsink seems to be on correctly, but just a tad warm but not hot. I'll look more into the voltage. The thing is I dont get prime errors EVER on the underclocked cpu or before it crashes. U'd figure if it was heat, then i would be getting some errors before it finally crashes. And ud also figure that some other sensor would pick up the fact that there is a heat problem with the cpu. I'll look more into the expert 166 as well as the voltage. I'll see what the updated bioses do also. Even tho the bios is new there is still a chance i guess. It seems that its down to that.

And are u sure the extra fsb speed on the ram is totally offset by the latenency? I was actually debating this. Do u perhaps have a link?
 

mechBgon

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Excuse my retarded question, but you confirmed your heatsink's positioned like this, correct? :eek: