Sempron 2200+ versus Duron 1800

[asm0deus]

I had a 2400 mobile for a while, but i didn't really game that much so i sold it, and put a duron 1800 in my machine to replace it. i bumped up the fsb to 150 and now it's running ~2GHz.

now a sempron 2200 is on it's way to me and im wondering since it's clocked by default @ 1.5 that it might be slower than my duron. i know it's multiplier locked @ 9 so getting it to 2GHz is going to be tough considering my mobo and ram (a7v8x-x w/ pc2700) but the sempron might run faster because it'll be running well over 166 bus and it has much more cache.

i could get the 2400 mobile up to 192 stable on the mobo (it doesnt have agp/pci lock) assuming i could get the sempron up to 192 i would still be short of 2GHz with a multiplier of 9 (1728). i think at that fsb and with its extra cache it will be marginally faster than the duron. which is kinda pathetic. if i really want to push this sempron i think im gonna need a mobo with pci/agp lock.

the chip will be here monday, and i just wanted to see what someone else thought. my goal is to get the sempron running ~2ghz on my a7v8x-x w/ pc2700. thanks for any comments, ideas etc.

 

[cbehnken]

Check this graph http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...oc.aspx?i=2139&p=6

I'm interpolating quite a bit, but I'd guess your Sempron 2200 is about as fast as an Athlon XP 1700-1800.

The 2800 Sempron runs at 2.0 Ghz. If you can get your chip to that (should be easy with a pci/agp lock) then you are looking at athlon 2500 speed. This should be quite a bit faster than your duron.

I'm not sure this is the best chip if you really want to o/c a lot, but hey have fun with it. At least it won't kill you if you trash it.

 

[AkumaX]

well a sempr0n 2200+ is 9 x 166 = 1500, which is about an AthlonXP 1800+. if you were to do 200mhz fsb, it would be 9 x 200 = 1800, which is about an AthlonXP 2200+ (hah). the extra cache should probably add maybe 100 or so mhz in direct speed comparison (so a sempron @ 1.8ghz should be about a "duron 1.9ghz+").

for 2ghz, you'd be looking at a fsb of 222 ( 9 x 222 = ~2ghz, so maybe an AthlonXP 2500, non-barton ). since you only have pc2700, your cpu/mem ratio should probably be around 6:4, or maybe 6:5 if the ram can o/c a little.

the only semprons ive seen are tbred-b's but some sites have thorton semprons (which should o/c a little higher). good luck!

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: AkumaX
well a sempr0n 2200+ is 9 x 166 = 1500, which is about an AthlonXP 1800+. if you were to do 200mhz fsb, it would be 9 x 200 = 1800, which is about an AthlonXP 2200+ (hah). the extra cache should probably add maybe 100 or so mhz in direct speed comparison (so a sempron @ 1.8ghz should be about a "duron 1.9ghz+").

for 2ghz, you'd be looking at a fsb of 222 ( 9 x 222 = ~2ghz, so maybe an AthlonXP 2500, non-barton ). since you only have pc2700, your cpu/mem ratio should probably be around 6:4, or maybe 6:5 if the ram can o/c a little.

the only semprons ive seen are tbred-b's but some sites have thorton semprons (which should o/c a little higher). good luck!

all boxed versions of semprons are thortons. all oem (no fan) are tbred's.

 

[Spikesoldier]

ditch the entire setup and go for something else. on socket A right now, its kind of worthless in the price/performance sector to go with something other than a mobile chip or in the lower end A64/sempron market.

 

[DetroitSportsFan]

on socket A right now, its kind of worthless in the price/performance sector to go with something other than a mobile chip or in the lower end A64/sempron market.

HUH? With all due respect I disagree.... unless I've misunderstood you. Barton 2500 still is considered a price/performance bargain. Is it the fastest? NO .... but its definately has enough raw power to be a true bargain in the bargain computing market. 2 ghz is very easily attainable with the Barton 2500. The PC2700 ram is more its limiting factor.

 

[SimsFreak]

Why is it with that benchmark the 2500+ is faster then the 2600+, I would have thought the 2600+ is faster due to a higher clock speed and better speed rating? Maybe 2500+ is barton and 2600+ is T-bird?

 

[karlreading]

Originally posted by: Spikesoldier
ditch the entire setup and go for something else. on socket A right now, its kind of worthless in the price/performance sector to go with something other than a mobile chip or in the lower end A64/sempron market.

sorry m8 have to dissagree, whilst socket a is now about as exotic as a portion of fish and chips, it does undinably open up fast computing for very little money.
As for the man asking a question, id say hunt down a barton 2500+, or a tbred 2400+.
karlos

 

[DetroitSportsFan]

Why is it with that benchmark the 2500+ is faster then the 2600+, I would have thought the 2600+ is faster due to a higher clock speed and better speed rating? Maybe 2500+ is barton and 2600+ is T-bird?

Yes, if the 2600 runs at 266 fsb (thoroughbred not thunderbird). Otherwise, the xp2600 is also a barton running at 333 fsb. The bus speed and the extra cache would explain the barton 2500's better benchmarks, although a 2600 barton would score slightly higher than both on those benchmark tests. All the different offerings with the same "speed ratings" frequently make things difficult to figure out. We're beginning to get a bit off topic here, but I thought your question was worthy enough to answer.