Seller sold a textbook marked: "Professional Review Copy: Not Intended for Sale"

BigJ

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So I recently purchased a book for my Sociology 100 class through Amazon.com's Marketplace. The name is "Sociology for a New Century" ISBN: 0803990820

This was the description on Amazon.com's Marketplace:
Seller: risacaj (Safe buying guarantee)
Rating: 4.8 stars over the past twelve months (972 ratings). Seller has 2495 lifetime ratings.
Availability: Usually ships in 1-2 business days; Ships from CA, United States. Expedited shipping available.
See shipping rates

Comments: Great Buy, Book Never Been Used, Why Pay More?

However, upon receiving the book, I discovered the seller had sent me a copy with these distinct markings on it: "Professional Review Copy: Not Intended for Sale". Also, the ISBN number is different (ISDN: 0761987347).

Now the material should be the same, but I don't plan on keeping this book, and it will probably be harder to sell, if not impossible to sell legally, because of the tag printed on the front.

Am I wrong disputing this on Amazon.com's Marketplace and leaving a negative review for the seller? If this had been the international edition, I would've eaten it because I didn't ask if it was the international edition or not. But because the book says in big letters "Not for Sale" I feel I'm in the right on this one.
 

Steve

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I would consult with somebody in the know, like your local bookstore manager or librarian.
 

duragezic

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What?? I've gotten several Int'l editions which say not for sale in the US. Oh well, it's the same fvcking book, and I probably payed 25% of the price so it's not a big deal that I can't go sell it at the bookstore for a measly $5 if they'll even take it.
 

sao123

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I used to be a instructor at a major university in pennsylvania.
Publishers send you free copies of their books in an attempt to lure you to use their books in your lectures, so they can sell more books. These free books they send you has that stamp on it.
The book is identical to the one that you would buy in a bookstore.

The whole reason for the stamp is just cuz they dont want you to get some money selling something they gave you for free. The auction probably should have told you that was stamped on it, but that i'm aware of, there can be no repurcussions on you for buying it.
 

FlyLice

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You save money = happy

But I guess spoiled brats don't get happy when they save money.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: FlyLice
You save money = happy

But I guess spoiled brats don't get happy when they save money.

And you sir, are an idiot. There are plenty of other sellers out there that sell legitimate "for sale" books. This seller was extremely unethical.

If someone sold you a version of Windows XP marked "Not for Resale" when you paid a little below OEM price, wouldn't you be pissed too?
 

virtueixi

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FlyLice
You save money = happy

But I guess spoiled brats don't get happy when they save money.

And you sir, are an idiot. There are plenty of other sellers out there that sell legitimate "for sale" books. This seller was extremely unethical.

If someone sold you a version of Windows XP marked "Not for Resale" when you paid a little below OEM price, wouldn't you be pissed too?

How much lower was the price compared to the other listed books?
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FlyLice
You save money = happy

But I guess spoiled brats don't get happy when they save money.

And you sir, are an idiot. There are plenty of other sellers out there that sell legitimate "for sale" books. This seller was extremely unethical.

If someone sold you a version of Windows XP marked "Not for Resale" when you paid a little below OEM price, wouldn't you be pissed too?

no why would I?
you got what you payed for
 

cpals

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FlyLice
You save money = happy

But I guess spoiled brats don't get happy when they save money.

And you sir, are an idiot. There are plenty of other sellers out there that sell legitimate "for sale" books. This seller was extremely unethical.

If someone sold you a version of Windows XP marked "Not for Resale" when you paid a little below OEM price, wouldn't you be pissed too?

no why would I?
you got what you payed for

He did not pay for a book that after he uses it is now useless. The Windows example was kind of bad because a Windows CD is a one-time use software. His book 'should' be able to be resold if he likes and if he is ethical, then he will not be able to resell this book. Also, someone he trys to sell the book to might not be so forgiving on the 'not for resale' stamp...
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: virtueixi
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FlyLice
You save money = happy

But I guess spoiled brats don't get happy when they save money.

And you sir, are an idiot. There are plenty of other sellers out there that sell legitimate "for sale" books. This seller was extremely unethical.

If someone sold you a version of Windows XP marked "Not for Resale" when you paid a little below OEM price, wouldn't you be pissed too?

How much lower was the price compared to the other listed books?

From the Amazon.com selections

This was listed in "Like New condition". Had he mentioned this, I would've bought from another seller a version of "Very good" for a dollar cheaper.

After that, I would've bought from a seller that was $5 more expensive which was in "Like New-New" condition with minor highlighting.

If that was taken, I would've bought a new version of the book for $10 more. All of these people have at least 80 ratings.

 

sao123

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And you sir, are an idiot. There are plenty of other sellers out there that sell legitimate "for sale" books. This seller was extremely unethical.

If someone sold you a version of Windows XP marked "Not for Resale" when you paid a little below OEM price, wouldn't you be pissed too?


I dont see how anything marked "not for resale" has any bearing on anything.
Almost all software, music, movies, games, have a not for sale clause in them or on them somewhere.

Have you ever bought a video card, that came with a new computer game lets say Quake 15. Yet you didnt like Quake 13.5 and know youll utterly hate the game. Are you going to just give away the game because you got it for free? Or will you try to sell it a little below the price of the game in the stores? Lets say $40, compared to $60.
I dont see how thats any different from your book.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: cpals
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FlyLice
You save money = happy

But I guess spoiled brats don't get happy when they save money.

And you sir, are an idiot. There are plenty of other sellers out there that sell legitimate "for sale" books. This seller was extremely unethical.

If someone sold you a version of Windows XP marked "Not for Resale" when you paid a little below OEM price, wouldn't you be pissed too?

no why would I?
you got what you payed for

He did not pay for a book that after he uses it is now useless. The Windows example was kind of bad because a Windows CD is a one-time use software. His book 'should' be able to be resold if he likes and if he is ethical, then he will not be able to resell this book. Also, someone he trys to sell the book to might not be so forgiving on the 'not for resale' stamp...

Thanks, it was kind of a bad example, but was the only thing I can think of. Although, you can transfer OEM and Retail copes of Windows XP as long as the original owner removes and destroys all copies/installations.

This is also why we dont have Not-For-Resale software being allowed in FS/FT.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: sao123
And you sir, are an idiot. There are plenty of other sellers out there that sell legitimate "for sale" books. This seller was extremely unethical.

If someone sold you a version of Windows XP marked "Not for Resale" when you paid a little below OEM price, wouldn't you be pissed too?


I dont see how anything marked "not for resale" has any bearing on anything.
Almost all software, music, movies, games, have a not for sale clause in them or on them somewhere.

Have you ever bought a video card, that came with a new computer game lets say Quake 15. Yet you didnt like Quake 13.5 and know youll utterly hate the game. Are you going to just give away the game because you got it for free? Or will you try to sell it a little below the price of the game in the stores? Lets say $40, compared to $60.
I dont see how thats any different from your book.

If it says not for sale, or not for re-sale, I woud not sell the software. Plain and simple. It's called ethics.
 

PatboyX

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i get a lot of out of circulation library books...but i think this is a little more illegal. i dont think its a big deal...but since you are planning on selling it, id go ahead and contact the publisher.
they may tell you that it is a limited time contract until the book is actually published or a new edition comes out.
it could be a moot point. or it could be like "OEM software" and he sent you a cable and you didnt notice.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: cpals
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FlyLice
You save money = happy

But I guess spoiled brats don't get happy when they save money.

And you sir, are an idiot. There are plenty of other sellers out there that sell legitimate "for sale" books. This seller was extremely unethical.

If someone sold you a version of Windows XP marked "Not for Resale" when you paid a little below OEM price, wouldn't you be pissed too?

no why would I?
you got what you payed for

He did not pay for a book that after he uses it is now useless. The Windows example was kind of bad because a Windows CD is a one-time use software. His book 'should' be able to be resold if he likes and if he is ethical, then he will not be able to resell this book. Also, someone he trys to sell the book to might not be so forgiving on the 'not for resale' stamp...

actually those not for resale XP CDs rock they ship with Dells and Compaqs and dont require codes or activations =P

so hell ya id buy one =P

as for the book.. if its the same version your class is usign whats the problem? go to the book store and compare it..
if its the same
it was just a sample copy sent for evalulation
he made a few bucks off it so whats the problem..
if theya re the same>> YOU GOT WHAT YOU PAYED FOR!
 

nakedfrog

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I've got a few CDs with markings like that that I bought at used CD stores.
 

sao123

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Ethics?

Let me ask you a question.

You bought a book for a few dollars cheaper. He sold it and made a few bucks?
You can sell it to the next person who wants a cheaper book.


Who is losing out? you? the other guy? the next guy who buys your book off you? the book publisher (who gave the book away for free at some point)?

The fact that u were buying a book from amazon, means the book publisher was not going to see a cent of our money anyways... so noone lost out.
I fail to see your point,
unless its to be a prick to the guy who sold you a book, and the hero to some book publisher who doesnt know you even exist, much less care. are you expecting them to give you a medal, or just pin a rose on your nose?
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: cpals
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: FlyLice
You save money = happy

But I guess spoiled brats don't get happy when they save money.

And you sir, are an idiot. There are plenty of other sellers out there that sell legitimate "for sale" books. This seller was extremely unethical.

If someone sold you a version of Windows XP marked "Not for Resale" when you paid a little below OEM price, wouldn't you be pissed too?

no why would I?
you got what you payed for

He did not pay for a book that after he uses it is now useless. The Windows example was kind of bad because a Windows CD is a one-time use software. His book 'should' be able to be resold if he likes and if he is ethical, then he will not be able to resell this book. Also, someone he trys to sell the book to might not be so forgiving on the 'not for resale' stamp...

actually those not for resale XP CDs rock they ship with Dells and Compaqs and dont require codes or activations =P

so hell ya id buy one =P

as for the book.. if its the same version your class is usign whats the problem? go to the book store and compare it..
if its the same
it was just a sample copy sent for evalulation
he made a few bucks off it so whats the problem..
if theya re the same>> YOU GOT WHAT YOU PAYED FOR!

As cpals said, I didn't get what I paid for. I cannot resell this book because I have ethics, something I think people are sorely lacking these days.