Self defense: Hapkido? Combat Hapkido???

[JEDI]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapkido

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Hapkido

If you've heard of Hapkido, what do you think of it?

 

[shabby]

Start with boxing.

 

[sourceninja]

http://aliveness101.blogspot.com/2005/07/why-aliveness.html read that, then find some training.

 

[Nik]

I've done TKD and Hapkido for years. I really liked Hapkido.

 

[jaedaliu]

Hapkido's great. I almost did it long enough to get a white belt. Decided to focus on other stuff instead. It was really fun while it lasted.

I think Hapkido might be a good one for someone that isn't interested in standing around punching and kicking the air for a few months before doing stuff more "fun" the basics are more fun.

 

[Kirby]

I've got a friend that has a black belt in it, but that's the most I know about it.

 

[jersiq]

I did some for a bit while my wife was trying for her yellow belt I think.

Joint locks are crazy fun, especially when you crank your training partner up. We also did quite a bit of kicking too, making it a somewhat decent cardio workout. However, the next person I trained with was a sloth and as such made the main focus joint locks.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

My brother and I have been considering Krav Maga. According to my research, it is the best martial arts for self defense. I don't care for the "art" in most other martial arts.

 

[SunSamurai]

Aikido > Hapkido

 

[waggy]

i spent a few years in hapkido. if self defence is your goal that will do it. the idea is to be the one walking home from a fight. of course the also go on about avoiding fights if you can.

 

[JeepinEd]

My brother and I have been considering Krav Maga. According to my research, it is the best martial arts for self defense. I don't care for the "art" in most other martial arts.

My wife and I studied Krav-Maga for several years. We even met Imi (the founder).
I think it's one of the best forms of self defense, based on your body's natural reflexes. There are no theatrics and no competitions, just downright eliminate the threat type of fighting.
Those classes were brutal. We would end the day with bloody knuckles and sore bodies, but it really taught us, not only how to fight, but how to take a hit (and I took many). I still have video of my wife, who is 5'2" 120 lbs taking down a big guy (6'+ ??lbs) during a demonstration. It took him a little while to regain his composure.

 

[TheNinja]

I don't know much about that but the best for self preservation is RUNNING away.

If you had to fight, I'd pick boxing and wrestling or jiu-jitsu. Throw your hands and hope for a quick knockdown and then run away. Or if a guy tackles you, learn wrestling/jiu-jitsu to counteract, hope to snap one of his limbs and then run away.

 

[waggy]

I don't know much about that but the best for self preservation is RUNNING away.

If you had to fight, I'd pick boxing and wrestling or jiu-jitsu. Throw your hands and hope for a quick knockdown and then run away. Or if a guy tackles you, learn wrestling/jiu-jitsu to counteract, hope to snap one of his limbs and then run away.

i been in wrestling for 20 years. in a fight its not as usefull as many other listed here.

While yes i can pick you up and put you on the ground unless i plan on holding you down after that its just as easy as the person i slammed to get up.

jiu-jitsu is again more stuff if you get them down. wich in a street fight is not very usefull.

 

[Kev]

i been in wrestling for 20 years. in a fight its not as usefull as many other listed here.

While yes i can pick you up and put you on the ground unless i plan on holding you down after that its just as easy as the person i slammed to get up.

jiu-jitsu is again more stuff if you get them down. wich in a street fight is not very usefull.

Pretty much every fight I've ever seen in a bar or on the street has ended up on the ground within 10 seconds.

 

[waggy]

Pretty much every fight I've ever seen in a bar or on the street has ended up on the ground within 10 seconds.

most do. wich point again wrestling background you are going to just hold them (wich is not bad).

jiu-jitsu again its nto bad but if you go against anyone with any training in most martial arts or even wrestling its going to pretty much useless.

if someone tries the holds im going to get up and stand and find something to pound your ass with.


there are far better self defence class's you can take then either. But both are great for sport.

 

[TheNinja]

i been in wrestling for 20 years. in a fight its not as usefull as many other listed here.

While yes i can pick you up and put you on the ground unless i plan on holding you down after that its just as easy as the person i slammed to get up.

jiu-jitsu is again more stuff if you get them down. wich in a street fight is not very usefull.

I would think on the ground with dominant position would be an OK position to be in b/c you can pound a guy, slam, hold, etc. I'm not saying you are going to try and pin him like a wrestling match....but top postion is natually easy to injure someone from b/c you have your body weight on his and can naturally elbow or headbutt. Of course in any fight, I would not really want to be on the ground, even if you are the top guy b/c there's always a chance his buddy is going to soccer kick your face.

Which is why I would think boxing would be a quick and simple way to try and take a guy out quickly. If sure any martial art is better if you are fighting a guy with 0 training though.

 

[waggy]

I would think on the ground with dominant position would be an OK position to be in b/c you can pound a guy, slam, hold, etc. Of course in any fight, I would not really want to be on the ground, even if you are the top guy b/c there's always a chance his buddy is going to soccer kick your face.
Which is why I would think boxing would be a quick and simple way to try and take a guy out quickly. If sure any martial art is better if you are fighting a guy with 0 training though.

yeah boxing would be great. my dad tried to get me into boxing (he boxed as a kid and in the army) but i just didn't care for it.

but yeah im thinking straight wrestling (wich well is mostly useless in a fight) but yeah getting on top and useing other stuff would be good. it would also keep you from getting mounted.

though i have got in a fight when younger and picked someone up in a 2 leg and dropped them on there head. worked great and i have wrestling to thank for that!

 

[sourceninja]

Wrestling is not useless at all in a fight. Some of the best MMA fighters in the original UFC' and other MMA events were just straight up wrestlers who took their opponents down and used their dominate control to pound their opponents heads in.

Like anything else, it's the fighter, not the art (with the exception of how the art is trained, see my post above).

If your a pussy now, no matter how much you train, no matter how good you are in practice, your going to be a pussy.

 

[Terzo]

Check out bullshido. You'll probably get better/more indepth responses there.

I wouldn't consider wrestling/ground styles completely useless. I don't know about wrestling, but I took bjj a long time ago (only for a year when I was in high school). I remember learning arm bars (break their arm) and various chokes. There was also the good ol ground 'n pound, where you get the mount and just beat the shit out of them the old fashioned way.

Off the top of my head, I've heard good things about Muay Thai, Kyokushin Karate, Boxing, Wrestling, (Brazilian) Ju Jistu, and Judo. I don't know much about other styles such as Krav Magna, so I can't say much about those. However, apparently it has a reputation as being somewhat brutal, which applies to Muay Thai and Kyokushin.
MMA fighters would be great to emulate (mma vs navy seal anyone?) but I'm guessing you don't have time to dedicate to multiple things. You could look into MMA gyms, but I know jack shit about those.

I think what it really comes down to in the end is the sparring. If the classes you take don't involve contact sparring then look elsewhere. The only way you're going to really learn is by getting beat up/beating up the other guys in your class. Stay away from anything that only does stuff like katas (mcdojo's). That's fine for some people, but for actual fighting you wont get far.

Most of what I have said is pretty much regurgitated from back when I read bullshido. Those guys can probably tell you more than you'll ever need to know.

 

[waggy]

and you two need to read. NOBODY said they were useless. i said they were not as useful as the others (hapkido, tkd etC) mentioned for self defence.

for pure self defence there are far better things to do. but it is a great sport and keeps you in hell of a good shape.


Of course many MMA have wrestling background. guys who spend as much time wrestling as they have you don't have many options for a job useing it. wrestling is also a great base for MMA.

terzo is right get in one that has sparring. i was in hapkido for years. once you got past white belt (yellow belt. though heard it veries) you did full contact sparring.

 

[Howard]

If it's 1 on 1, groundwork is important... and if it isn't 1 on 1 then I don't think you should ever consider any options besides running.

 

[HybridSquirrel]

colt .45 is what i suggest

 

[Schadenfreude]

Judo.

Worried about standup? Judo starts standing up.
Worried about groundwork? Judo has groundwork.
Worried about live-training? Judo trains live.
Worried about joint locks? Judo has joint locks. Hell, they have chokes as well.

I've trained in TaeKwonDo, Wing Tsun Kuen, Judo, and Muay Thai; none of them well, but the point is, I've seen people that can do it well and to be honest, any of them can defend themselves well. Really frighteningly well, in fact.

(So in another words, if you find a good instructor regardless of style, you'll be able to defend yourself - yes, Hapkido included - but I'm attempting to hijack your thread like every-farging-one else here [btw, as a style Hapkido is cool, but make sure you like the place before you sign up], so bear with me)

But Judo is the only style where you can shoot fireballs out your ass, your $*#& grows 3x its size, and all women grovel in your magnificent presence (not really).

 

[gevorg]

If you want it to be very practical, checkout combat sambo. If its too hard, start with boxing.

Whatever you choose, make sure that you have developed good physique first (can swim ~1/4 mile, run 10+ miles, bike 30+ miles, etc).

 

[Mardeth]

Been doing MMA/NHB or whatever for a few months. I like thats its not only a sport (like TKD i did before) and not completely selfdefense which doesnt really have much competitive aspect to it.