Selective breeding on humans.

Circlenaut

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You know how they do selective breeding on plants. What if someone does that. What will the world be like.
 

911paramedic

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You must have slept up until now, there was somebody that tried that, Hitler. Didn't work out so well for him...
 

kuk

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Prejudice against those that aren't 100% error-free blablabla. You get the idea ... semi-Nazi world. :|
 

nirgis

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I think I can hear the flames....

I'm not sure what you mean by selective breeding. High IQ, beauty, sucess

there are a lot of factors that can't even begin to be measured that would be lost
 

MustPost

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Some people don't get married because there is a good chance there children will have Tye-Sachs disease.
 

Jen

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i can see it now. the perfect world ..............but who gets to make this decision.



Jen
 

xaigi

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Selective breeding has been going on for a long time, whether by the family (arranged marriages) or by the individual (modern arrangements). According to some theories, people select thier partners because they want thier children to have the best genes possible. I dont know whether to say that the effectiveness of this method is high or low, as I dont have anything to compare it with. I can, however, say that selective breeding based on genetic testing will probably be less effective than the classical method. It will eliminate the most obvious genetic defects (severe predispositions to major diseases) but it will not provide the (relatively) even-handed selectivity of the classical method. It will cause people to fixate on a few specific genes for manipulation of traits; by choosing to give thier children the most popular traits through genetic manipulation, they will set thier offspring up for genetic homogeniety and a far smaller chance of survival than the unmanipulated population.
 

sandmanwake

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Eugenics. Theoretically, a good idea, but probably not practical for humans. Who's to say what traits are desirable? You could end up with some twisted mind who thinks all Jews should be bred out (Hitler), or blacks, or people with curly hair. By the way, Hitler got the idea from America. Some of the doctors who actually practiced eugenics in America were really twisted individuals. I remember reading about one guy who was sterialized because his alcoholic dad told the doctors he was a troublesome child. A nurse who worked at that place where they experimented with eugneics was raped by one of the doctors. Instead of arresting the doctor, they classified that woman as an undisirable since she got pregnate out of wedlock, took her baby away to be raised in a more "wholesome" environment, and sterialized the woman. This took place in Virginia, USA; not Germany, and in pre-Hitler days. One species consciously selectively breeding itself like that would not work out because twisted minds would somehow find it's way of being in charge of the program.
 

nirgis

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"One species consciously selectively breeding itself like that would not work out because twisted minds would somehow find it's way of being in charge of the program. "


That's like saying that no government could work because eventually a wacko would be instituted. Whether slective breeding is moral or practical is another issue. I do think it could work however.

I don't think it should be government sponsored, more informal as xaigi suggested as in arranged marriaged. Perhaps sterilization could occur for all rapits, murderists positively proven guilty or any others of horrible crimes... There are problems with this of course, such as innocents being sterilized, but the vast majority of murderers would not continue their line.

This is really more like controlled evolution than selective breeding

 

sandmanwake

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That's like saying that no government could work because eventually a wacko would be instituted

Actually, I think that in the long run no government can work; or if it does, not as efficiently and morally as those who started it intended. Eventually, corruption would find its way into the most well meaning of governmental body. It may not necessarily be that power corrupts, but power tends to attract corruption. Plus, one person's moral standards aren't necessarily the same or strict as another person. There's power in government and power in being the one to choose what trait to breed into your species, so even if a "wacko" isn't instituted eventually, someone who's moral standards may not be what the majority would agree with may be instituted and the program would be corrupted.
 

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<< You know how they do selective breeding on plants. What if someone does that. What will the world be like. >>



People do this conciously and un-conciously when they make thier chioce of mate. Women are selective. For instance, some of them wont sleep with me.
 

Elledan

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Subconsciously Humans are already selectively choosing their partners and thus those with who they mate.

However, the Human race is not ready yet for extending this process to a conscious level, because they can not yet control their desires and emotions, nor are they capable of the kind of reasoning which is required for such a process.

For now we should let Nature decide who mates with who since we Humans are obviously not ready yet to do it ourselves.
 

kami

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Gattaca anyone? If I see anything in the future in regards to make a "perfect race" it is the themes discussed in that movie rather than just selective breeding.
 

freebee

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Any combination of breeding that can create people that look like Jessica Alba is fine by me.
 

Circlenaut

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I don't want to enforce such a thing. I just want to ask you what your views are if everyone in the world were like that.
 

Peetoeng

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As xiagi wrote above, selective breeding like marriage of equally educated/wealthy/aristocratic/caste/etc couple is a common practice, especially in asian cultures.

Likewise in the west, I read, sperm banks reported that sperms from men of certain characteristics (inteligent/atheletic/business-success/) are much more in demand. Who would pay $200 for a catridge of c*m from a 5'1", obese, high school graduate? Sadly, that's the way we humans do! And we call that progressive thinking:Q

Perhaps someday, having your own offspring as children will become an odd idea. Why having your own offspring while you could order from staples with pricematch and coupon a child with genetic make up of, say, Michael Jordan and Heidi Klum?

Jordan and Klum too much? I'd settle with Kloom and I (no petri dish please, only natural conception)
:D; in fact, that is actually a much better breeding...for me;).