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Selecting a CRT for classic gaming...

I wish I still had my old Philips. It had composite, s-video, component inputs AND an analog audio output so I could run the sound through my high end Aiwa bookshelf system. Xbox 360 games looked amazing on it too because of the free downsampling AA you get running from a higher res source to a lower res display. I'll never forget the shock when I got my first HDTV and COD4 actually looked worse on it than my SDTV. COD4 rendered at 1024x600 on 360 so looked awful on the higher res display but looked downsampled and AA'd on the SDTV. I learned a lot about perceived image quality that day.
 
I have an old 37" Mitsubishi, but I haven't used it in some time. I've gotten so used to the higher resolutions of emulators that I've quit hooking my PS2 or DC to it. Keep debating to get rid of it, but keep thinking maybe I'll make a MAME cabinet at some point.
 
My Sony XBR910 is still the highest-rated picture quality of all time (same exact tube as the XBR960 they discussed in the linked article). They pretty much just added CableCARD and HDMI to the 960 along with a MemoryStick slot that fits MS Pro Duo without an adapter (the 910 had HDCP-compliant DVI, and a MS slot that only supported full-size MS). I hate that the overscan is significant enough that Blu-Ray menu selections are often pushed off the screen and I have to have a special box that cost more than a Chromecast to get audio from my Chromecast, but it's still an AWESOME set.
 
CZroe said:
My Sony XBR910 is still the highest-rated picture quality of all time (same exact tube as the XBR960 they discussed in the linked article). They pretty much just added CableCARD and HDMI to the 960 along with a MemoryStick slot that fits MS Pro Duo without an adapter (the 910 had HDCP-compliant DVI, and a MS slot that only supported full-size MS). I hate that the overscan is significant enough that Blu-Ray menu selections are often pushed off the screen and I have to have a special box that cost more than a Chromecast to get audio from my Chromecast, but it's still an AWESOME set.
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Really nice TV. That's hilarious, I googled it and this thread came up. Look who's in it.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/64-di...-there-would-like-show-pictures-there-ht.html

#blastfromthepast
 
CZroe said:
My Sony XBR910 is still the highest-rated picture quality of all time (same exact tube as the XBR960 they discussed in the linked article). They pretty much just added CableCARD and HDMI to the 960 along with a MemoryStick slot that fits MS Pro Duo without an adapter (the 910 had HDCP-compliant DVI, and a MS slot that only supported full-size MS). I hate that the overscan is significant enough that Blu-Ray menu selections are often pushed off the screen and I have to have a special box that cost more than a Chromecast to get audio from my Chromecast, but it's still an AWESOME set.
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I wanted an XBR 960 so bad. This was back in like 2003-2004. I was working on my associates degree and I was poor as fudge. (sometimes I didn't have enough money for food. Never did get one of those things. By the time I actually had money again all you had were crappy LCD's.
 
Good luck finding a good CRT now for a reasonable price.

It looks like the cat is out of the bag and all BVM/PVM monitors are now on resellers radar, the latest victim of the "ZOMG RARE RETRO GAMING COLLECTIBLE" hysteria. Looks like resellers have swooped in like the vultures they are and are buying up all the BVM/PVM monitors to resell for hundreds now. Even Ebay it looks like the same guy selling most of them now for multiple hundreds and has "retro gaming" in the description. Anything that wasn't/isn't sold buy him was/is probably bought by him and immediately relisted.

If you want one you better find it now. In a year or two it will be like NES/SNES games and classic cars, you'll have pickers and resellers trying to flip broken and 10k hours used ones for $100k.

I got mine I want to say 5+ years ago for $50 and $100 shipping from a guy's private editing room with like 100 hours on it so I'm good for a long time.
 
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Ichinisan said:
Good CRTs that actually get used will eventually die. No one makes them anymore.
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A good upscalar that produces a integer scaled input and cropped output will be close enough.

The most important thing is using a raw RGB signal source instead of NTSC composite, honestly. That alone is worth 90% of the image improvement that you are seeing when people show RGB monitors.

Composite on my PVM looks nearly as bad as a regular TV. You can't just throw away 75% of your data and and re encode it in a no bandwidth and drifting and barely perceptible phase modulated analog signal and expect to get anything remotely perceptible back out of it.

Would be like playing a CD through the crappiest 99 cent store speaker you can find, in mono, with a wet towel wrapped around it, then recording it on a cassette tape in long play. You can then play that cassette tape back in the highest end gear you can find, it won't improve anything.

NTSC sux0rz.

Anyway, these PVMs are built like tanks for industrial used to be tossed around in vans and in and out of racks and stuff. UPS couldn't break one if they tried. Hopefully capacitors and stuff are easily substituted down the road... that's my only concern.
 
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