Seiki 50" 4k LED TV at TigerDirect 3840x2160 - $1299.99 shipped

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[AkumaX]

somewhat tempting.. except for the fact that it's 3840x2160 @ 30hz... :\

 

[13Gigatons]

What....just seems too good to be true.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

somewhat tempting.. except for the fact that it's 3840x2160 @ 30hz... :\

And the 50" part kind of sucks...

 

[Kaido]

That's awesome!

 

[BenJeremy]

Wow... I did not expect to see that sort of pricing this early.

Now where are my cheap 4k computer monitors? That's what I really want.

1080p is fine for videos and movies. 4K is overkill unless you sit 12 inches from your 60" LED, where you MIGHT notice the pixels (unlikely though, without sharply contrasted details, like text - and even then, many TVs can anti-alias so you'd never see it)

As computer monitors, though, I'd really appreciate the extra vertical pixels.

 

[Centauri]

And the 50" part kind of sucks...

Yes, very tiny. Suitable only for a bathroom.

 

[sm625]

Wow 30Hz? Why is there no compression going on with the data before it is sent over the cable? I would rather have 120Hz with some potential for compression losses than to be just stuck with 30Hz. That is incredibly shortsighted.

 

[Juddog]

Would make a nice desktop monitor if the input rate was 60Hz for 4k.

 

[dmoney1980]

the fact that it's 30hz has to do with HDMI's current limitation at this resolution.

 

[13Gigatons]

You guys are confusing refresh rate and frame rate. Most movies are 24 frames still and I believe many TV shows are 30 frames still as well.

The refresh rate could be 60hz or 120hz, it's not controlled by HDMI signal.

 

[chucky2]

Correct. Still though, the point of 4K was it was a subset of 8K until 8K could be brought to us. It'd stand to reason that a 4K TV would support not only 1080p60 (and all below resolutions and framerates for TV), but also 4Kp60 as well; and, ideally, 4Kp120.

If it can only do 4Kp30, that sorta sucks. Not surprising given the brand, but, still, sucky.

I wonder how this thing compares to a top line 2012 or 2013 LCD/plasma displaying something like a 1080p Blu-ray?

Time to head on over to www.avsforum.com ...

Chuck

 

[jimbob200521]

IDK what you guys are seeing, the screen refresh rate listed under specs is 120hz.

 

[Juddog]

The AVS forum threads in question regarding the set:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1466270/seiki-se50uy04-first-low-cost-4k-ultra-hd-tv

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1454633/inexpensive-2k-4k-tv-about-to-enter-us

 

[AkumaX]

You guys are confusing refresh rate and frame rate. Most movies are 24 frames still and I believe many TV shows are 30 frames still as well.

The refresh rate could be 60hz or 120hz, it's not controlled by HDMI signal.

Yah, you'd most likely be watching movies/TV shows in 24p/30p, so 30hz is plenty... but I would have LOVED to use this as my personal monitor :X

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Yes, very tiny. Suitable only for a bathroom.

lol Alright smarty pants, I get your point. I live in a ranch house so I have a bigger living room that requires a bigger TV. This would have been perfect for my old apartment.

 

[lazarus000]

Display
Display Class 50"
Display Type LED
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Contrast Ratio 5000:1
Resolution 3840 x 2160
Screen Refresh Rate 120Hz
Response Time 6.5 ms

 

[Roland00Address]

IDK what you guys are seeing, the screen refresh rate listed under specs is 120hz.

It can take a 1080p signal at 60 hertz or a 2160p signal at 30 hertz. Once the image is in the tv it can use frame extrapolation with its computer chips and make a fake 120 hertz.

There are very few tvs on the market can take a 120 hertz signal at 1080p. This is due to the limitation of hdmi, here are the resolutions hdmi 1.4a can do

2D Formats
4K × 2K, i.e. 3840 × 2160p (Quad HD) at 24 Hz/25 Hz/30 Hz
4096 × 2160p at 24 Hz (which is a resolution used with digital theaters)
3D Formats
720p50, 720p60
1080p24
1080i50
1080i60

To do 120 hertz at 1080p with hdmi you need a hdmi 1.4b cable as well as an output device and tv that support hdmi 1.4b...There are very little devices on the market that support hdmi 1.4b instead most devices use displayport and/or dvi for any resolution/detail over 1080p60hertz

 

[postmortemIA]

so, what are you gonna do with it? my cable is limited to 1080i.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

so, what are you gonna do with it? my cable is limited to 1080i.

And next gen consoles have already stated they will be max 1080p.

 

[poundruss]

yeah. this resolution on a TV seems pretty pointless, especially considering the 30hz.

i'll take a 1440p 27" 120hz monitor, though.

 

[Juddog]

And next gen consoles have already stated they will be max 1080p.

The games will be 1080p; the content delivery will most likely include 4k, based upon the initial PS4 specs released. The next blu-ray spec supposedly will include 4k as well (you should be able to squeeze a 4k movie onto a dual layer BD-ROM if H.265 is used).

 

[Juddog]

so, what are you gonna do with it? my cable is limited to 1080i.

This type of set would be fantastic for displaying still images; for example in a storefront or something of the sort.

 

[kalrith]

And the 50" part kind of sucks...

Yeah, considering that 1080p is sufficient for a 50" TV about 6' away, 4k seems like a waste for that size. If the source is 1080p, it won't matter much anyways.

 

[Roland00Address]

yeah. this resolution on a TV seems pretty pointless, especially considering the 30hz.

Almost all finalized video is broadcast with frame rates <= 30 hertz. US TV is 30 fps progressive, PAL TV is 25 fps progressive, Film is 24 fps progressive.