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Seems the Brits don't want to be left out when it comes to abusing Iraqi prisoners

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slick230

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January 19, 2005

Abuse Photos in Iraq Made by British Soldiers

These are pics of pictures released by a British Court Martial, Tuesday, Jan, 18, 2005 in Osnabrueck, Germany which claims to show Lance corporal Darren Larkin standing on an Iraqi detainee and Cpl. Daniel Kenyon taking a photograph in the rear that is to be used in the Court Martial of three British soldiers from the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers facing allegations they mistreated Iraqis. Corporal Daniel Kenyon, 33, and Lance Corporals Mark Cooley, 25, and Lance Corporal Darren Larkin, 30, are accused of abusing the men at a humanitarian aid camp known as the Bread Basket, near Basra, Iraq in May, 2003
The other shows Lance corporal Mark Cooley driving a fork lift truck with an Iraqi detainee bound to it.
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Originally posted by: conjur
#3.... wtf??

Well, they learned from the best.
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What does that mean, they learned from the best? Are you saying that the Brits followed Abu Ghraib examples? Man, that's so sickening, how you really do take pleasure out of bashing American military.

First of all, if you studied human nature, in high stress combat areas, things like torturing are quite common. Other places like South Africa, etc, have many cases of torturing. You think this sort of activity is limited to American and British military, and it appears that you seem to get off on any sort of bad press.

I don't condone the actions of Abu Ghraib, nor this recent case by the British, it is sick and vulgar. The Americans and British should be in Iraq to help these people rebuild their country. With images like this, it seriously hampers and damages credibility to our cause. But there are thousands of men and women in Iraq who are HELPING the Iraqi's, and with that statement of yours above, I feel disgusted to know that you degrade our military like that.

 
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: conjur
#3.... wtf??

Well, they learned from the best.
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What does that mean, they learned from the best? Are you saying that the Brits followed Abu Ghraib examples? Man, that's so sickening, how you really do take pleasure out of bashing American military.

First of all, if you studied human nature, in high stress combat areas, things like torturing are quite common. Other places like South Africa, etc, have many cases of torturing. You think this sort of activity is limited to American and British military, and it appears that you seem to get off on any sort of bad press.

I don't condone the actions of Abu Ghraib, nor this recent case by the British, it is sick and vulgar. The Americans and British should be in Iraq to help these people rebuild their country. With images like this, it seriously hampers and damages credibility to our cause. But there are thousands of men and women in Iraq who are HELPING the Iraqi's, and with that statement of yours above, I feel disgusted to know that you degrade our military like that.
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It was a satirical comment directed to the Bush administration. But, since you brought it up, our military *is* the best and members of our military committed horrible atrocities at Abu Ghraib. I'll let you fill in the rest
 
It was a satirical comment directed to the Bush administration. But, since you brought it up, our military *is* the best and members of our military committed horrible atrocities at Abu Ghraib.
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The members of our military that engaged in these behaviors were primarily Reservists, and therefore lacked the discretion, professionalism and ability to function under the stresses of a combat deployment. There is plenty of historical evidence from numerous wars that demonstrate the rigors of combat often result in the soldiers of one Army dehumanizing their enemies, particularly if the enemy looks different...Japanese POWs received far worse treatment then German and Italian POWs during WW2 for this reason.

And while what happened at Abu Ghrain is unacceptable and inexcusable, you do not see American soldiers running around beheading POWs, or crossing the line from humiliation to physical torture and abuse...the prisons we discovered throughout Iraq contained numerous and quite barbaric torture devices that Saddam Hussein's regime used to keep the people in line...what happened in Abu Ghraib is child's play compared to what our enemies would do to us.

Our active duty soldiers receive extensive training on the Geneva convention, and the concept of acting humanely even during times of war...to respect the sanctity of human life and the dignity of individuals...and I would contend that Abu Ghraib is the exception rather then the rule.
 
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
And while what happened at Abu Ghrain is unacceptable and inexcusable, you do not see American soldiers running around beheading POWs, or crossing the line from humiliation to physical torture and abuse...
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Don't follow the news much, huh?

 
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: conjur
#3.... wtf??

Well, they learned from the best.
Click to expand...

What does that mean, they learned from the best? Are you saying that the Brits followed Abu Ghraib examples? Man, that's so sickening, how you really do take pleasure out of bashing American military.

First of all, if you studied human nature, in high stress combat areas, things like torturing are quite common. Other places like South Africa, etc, have many cases of torturing. You think this sort of activity is limited to American and British military, and it appears that you seem to get off on any sort of bad press.

I don't condone the actions of Abu Ghraib, nor this recent case by the British, it is sick and vulgar. The Americans and British should be in Iraq to help these people rebuild their country. With images like this, it seriously hampers and damages credibility to our cause. But there are thousands of men and women in Iraq who are HELPING the Iraqi's, and with that statement of yours above, I feel disgusted to know that you degrade our military like that.
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welcome to liberal media and idiot americans that listen
 
Don't follow the news much, huh?
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Humiliating, or even beating a prisoner is not reckless endangerment of that POW's life...psychological warfare has many manifestations, and while most of them are not pleasant, there are different levels of abuse...what John McCain experienced and what these Iraqi POWs faced are on entirely different levels...I am not making excuses for what happened so much as illustrating that torturing of prisoners is not culturally accepted, practiced or institutionalized in the American military...the same can not be said for many of our enemies, past and present.
 
Originally posted by: Evdawg
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: conjur
#3.... wtf??

Well, they learned from the best.
Click to expand...

What does that mean, they learned from the best? Are you saying that the Brits followed Abu Ghraib examples? Man, that's so sickening, how you really do take pleasure out of bashing American military.

First of all, if you studied human nature, in high stress combat areas, things like torturing are quite common. Other places like South Africa, etc, have many cases of torturing. You think this sort of activity is limited to American and British military, and it appears that you seem to get off on any sort of bad press.

I don't condone the actions of Abu Ghraib, nor this recent case by the British, it is sick and vulgar. The Americans and British should be in Iraq to help these people rebuild their country. With images like this, it seriously hampers and damages credibility to our cause. But there are thousands of men and women in Iraq who are HELPING the Iraqi's, and with that statement of yours above, I feel disgusted to know that you degrade our military like that.
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welcome to liberal media and idiot americans that listen
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Welcome to reality and learn how to read.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Passions
Originally posted by: conjur
#3.... wtf??

Well, they learned from the best.
Click to expand...

What does that mean, they learned from the best? Are you saying that the Brits followed Abu Ghraib examples? Man, that's so sickening, how you really do take pleasure out of bashing American military.

First of all, if you studied human nature, in high stress combat areas, things like torturing are quite common. Other places like South Africa, etc, have many cases of torturing. You think this sort of activity is limited to American and British military, and it appears that you seem to get off on any sort of bad press.

I don't condone the actions of Abu Ghraib, nor this recent case by the British, it is sick and vulgar. The Americans and British should be in Iraq to help these people rebuild their country. With images like this, it seriously hampers and damages credibility to our cause. But there are thousands of men and women in Iraq who are HELPING the Iraqi's, and with that statement of yours above, I feel disgusted to know that you degrade our military like that.
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It was a satirical comment directed to the Bush administration. But, since you brought it up, our military *is* the best and members of our military committed horrible atrocities at Abu Ghraib. I'll let you fill in the rest
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Please dont blame the actions of a very few on the great President of this nation. Thank you.
 
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
And while what happened at Abu Ghrain is unacceptable and inexcusable, you do not see American soldiers running around beheading POWs, or crossing the line from humiliation to physical torture and abuse...
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Don't follow the news much, huh?
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Were the prisoners at Abu Ghraib ever struck?
 
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
And while what happened at Abu Ghrain is unacceptable and inexcusable, you do not see American soldiers running around beheading POWs, or crossing the line from humiliation to physical torture and abuse...
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Don't follow the news much, huh?
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Were the prisoners at Abu Ghraib ever struck?
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yes

 
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
And while what happened at Abu Ghrain is unacceptable and inexcusable, you do not see American soldiers running around beheading POWs, or crossing the line from humiliation to physical torture and abuse...
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Don't follow the news much, huh?
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Were the prisoners at Abu Ghraib ever struck?
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yes
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I thought they were only humiliated. Sexual pyramid, forced to masturbate in public, etc.
 
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Were the prisoners at Abu Ghraib ever struck?
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yes
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I thought they were only humiliated. Sexual pyramid, forced to masturbate in public, etc.
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Last week...

Graner Found Guilty in Iraq Prisoner Abuse

...He also allegedly punched one man in the head hard enough to knock him out, and struck an injured prisoner with a collapsible metal stick.
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Also, you might want to check out this thread.


 
Originally posted by: Anubis
am i the only one the doesnt give a fvck about this abuse?
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Not even close. There are approximately 50.9 million others.




:thumbsup: to your sig 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Anubis
am i the only one the doesnt give a fvck about this abuse?
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Not even close. There are approximately 50.9 million others.




:thumbsup: to your sig 🙂
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it has nothing to do with me being or not being in a political party, i just honetly dont give a flying fat fvck about it
 
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Anubis
am i the only one the doesnt give a fvck about this abuse?
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Not even close. There are approximately 50.9 million others.




:thumbsup: to your sig 🙂
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it has nothing to do with me being or not being in a political party, i just honetly dont give a flying fat fvck about it
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Not gunna work, dude. You're trying too hard.

:lips:
 
I dont care for this abuse. The people who do this should be punished, maybe a few slaps on the wrist. They went overboard with Graner

He was just softening up a few scumbags, plus he had orders to do whatever it takes to make them speak. It was totally wrong how they lynched Graner. Shame on you Bush and Rumsfeld for putting all the blame on this one man.
 
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