Seeking "intel" on OCZ PowerStream 600

[BonzaiDuck]

Does anyone have reliable information concerning the efficiency of the OCZ PowerStream 600?

I'm using the 520 model in my old P4 system. That model did not have active PFC, but the 600W model does. I'm wondering if they improved the efficiency ratings I saw for the 520 when they produced the 600.

I'd be very interested in the efficiency percentage rating for this PSU.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

I have no idea. I do know that there are much better units, than OCZ or Muskin offers.
There are VG units in the mid-70s or mid-80s.

VG 600W units can be had for $99~$170.


...Galvanized

 

[dBTelos]

I couldn't find anything either. But OCZ is rarely the best option.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I'd been looking at an Antec TruePower Trio 650, the OCZ GameXStream and some other units. For the trouble I've put into the research, I should probably just spring for a PC Power & Cooling -- eventually.

 

[Corporate Thug]

http://www.jonnyguru.com/PSU/GameXStream700/index2.htm

as you can see, the 700W is about 80% efficent. I would expect the same for the 600W

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Mr. Duck,
The Trio http://www.jonnyguru.com/ was testing blew up under load and had to be RMAed inorder to finish the review Not a good sign.

The GamXStream is based on the Epsilon of FSP...Both go out of ripple spec at heavy loads..Not a good sign.

Bang for buck would be the Enhance ENS-0560G for $100. It is the exact same unit as the Silverstone Strider ST60F

Do not over look the Corsair units..both the 520 & 620 are built by Seasonic and have a 5 year warrenty. pcp&c has a 3 year warrenty on thier Seasonic built Silencer series units.

 

[Corporate Thug]

nm, misread the post

 

[ryderOCZ]

All Information is right here: http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/PSUSpec.pdf

 

[BonzaiDuck]

ryderOCZ -- That's the same web-page I had consulted two years ago when I sprung for the PS 520. Since the PS 600 adds Active PFC, I would not be confident in just assuming that the efficiency ratings were in that "60s-to-70" range, but then why would reviewers not tout the 600W-model's efficiency unless it didn't measure up?

I've been very pleased with the PS 520, but we're looking at a new generation of PSU's from a majority of manufacturers, and it's time to "think out of the box." The 520 had passive PFC and the efficiency shown on the cited web-page.

It looks as though a good bet this time is the Seasonic S12 650.

I suppose I should be peeved about the shell-game that these companies follow: to get a known subcontractor or established PSU manufacturer to produce PSUs under the name-brand's label. But this is a hobby, and research is part of it. No quick decisions here.

Good to hear from you after so long, Galvanized . . . .

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Like wise

Do some reading at jonny's site. Yes it is a shell game of rebranding, some are VG, others not even close to the OEM.

Seasonic rates very well in both S12 & M12 series. Siverstone does well having Etasis or Enhance build what they offer.

The Siverstone 500W Element has 12V@35A combined. That's some power for a dual rail.
It is based on the Enhance ENP-5150GH. Specs at http://www.enhanceusa.com/

Do some reading in the PSU forum over at http://www.badcaps.net/


...Galvanized

 

[ryderOCZ]

BonzaiDuck,

The 600W does not have active PFC, unless you are using the UK/EU models. All US Powerstreams do not have Active PFC.

I don't quite understand what you are saying? That we published specs that are too low, or too high?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
Does anyone have reliable information concerning the efficiency of the OCZ PowerStream 600?

I'm using the 520 model in my old P4 system. That model did not have active PFC, but the 600W model does. I'm wondering if they improved the efficiency ratings I saw for the 520 when they produced the 600.

I'd be very interested in the efficiency percentage rating for this PSU.

My friend I messaged you!!

Also the OCZ brand is a nice brand as are most PSU`s!!
There are a few real bad PSU`s out there but OCZ is considered a name brand albeit rebadged but you will need to take the whole uproar over rebadged units with a grain of salt...

Just look around these forums as well as other forums you will not find a whole lot of posts about OCZ units going bad or having issues!

then again I suppose if you looked hard enough you could find examples of almost anything..

Thus the rebadging issue is really a non issue if you want an OCZ PSU!!

Don`t allow the rebadging issue to be blown completely out of proportion.

IMO it only becomes an issue if a certain brand starts having major issues with their PSU`s!!

other than that its really a non issue!!

Good luck!!

 

[dBTelos]

Come on Galvanized Give the Trio a chance to finish a review

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
Does anyone have reliable information concerning the efficiency of the OCZ PowerStream 600?

I'm using the 520 model in my old P4 system. That model did not have active PFC, but the 600W model does. I'm wondering if they improved the efficiency ratings I saw for the 520 when they produced the 600.

I'd be very interested in the efficiency percentage rating for this PSU.

My friend I messaged you!!

Also the OCZ brand is a nice brand as are most PSU`s!!
There are a few real bad PSU`s out there but OCZ is considered a name brand albeit rebadged but you will need to take the whole uproar over rebadged units with a grain of salt...

Just look around these forums as well as other forums you will not find a whole lot of posts about OCZ units going bad or having issues!

then again I suppose if you looked hard enough you could find examples of almost anything..

Thus the rebadging issue is really a non issue if you want an OCZ PSU!!

Don`t allow the rebadging issue to be blown completely out of proportion.

IMO it only becomes an issue if a certain brand starts having major issues with their PSU`s!!

other than that its really a non issue!!

Good luck!!

Shhh! We won't tell anyone that pcp&c are just rebadges. The Turbos being built by Win-Tact and the Silencers by Seasonic. Too bad the Corsair units built by Seasonic test better and have 5 years of warrenty compared to the Silencer's three.
Shhh! We won't tell that the Turbos use Teapo caps like some many mid-range PSUs like Enhance. Shhh!

 

[Kwint Sommer]

OCZ PowerStreams don't have active PFC but of the 11 power supplies I've used I prefer my OCZ PowerStream. The voltages are as stable as any of the other PSUs, what really stands out is the ability to accurately and quickly adjust voltages from the back of the unit. Further, decreasing the ambient temperature by 40C only results in only a 1.6% drop in voltages which can be corrected using the rear screws. The other adjustable voltage PSUs I've tried had 3% or higher variances in voltage over a 40C temperature change.

 

[pkme2]

I fiqure it's time for Jonnyguru: OCZ PowerStream

Enermax Liberty

You always got Seasonic S12 500W/600W or PC Power & Cooling.

IMO, I recommend Seasonic S12 600W or Enermax Liberty 620W.

It's now up to you. I use both and its your system now. Good luck choosing.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
Does anyone have reliable information concerning the efficiency of the OCZ PowerStream 600?

I'm using the 520 model in my old P4 system. That model did not have active PFC, but the 600W model does. I'm wondering if they improved the efficiency ratings I saw for the 520 when they produced the 600.

I'd be very interested in the efficiency percentage rating for this PSU.

My friend I messaged you!!

Also the OCZ brand is a nice brand as are most PSU`s!!
There are a few real bad PSU`s out there but OCZ is considered a name brand albeit rebadged but you will need to take the whole uproar over rebadged units with a grain of salt...

Just look around these forums as well as other forums you will not find a whole lot of posts about OCZ units going bad or having issues!

then again I suppose if you looked hard enough you could find examples of almost anything..

Thus the rebadging issue is really a non issue if you want an OCZ PSU!!

Don`t allow the rebadging issue to be blown completely out of proportion.

IMO it only becomes an issue if a certain brand starts having major issues with their PSU`s!!

other than that its really a non issue!!

Good luck!!

Shhh! We won't tell anyone that pcp&c are just rebadges. The Turbos being built by Win-Tact and the Silencers by Seasonic. Too bad the Corsair units built by Seasonic test better and have 5 years of warrenty compared to the Silencer's three.
Shhh! We won't tell that the Turbos use Teapo caps like some many mid-range PSUs like Enhance. Shhh!

No matter....show me pictures of the exact PSU under a different name with no modifications or any PC Power & Cooling touches...you can`t!!
Again there is nothing wrong with rebadged as you would call them PSU`s.
Then again whats your point?
I suppose your point could be that since OCZ is rebadged its somehow inferior to other brand or even the same PSU with the OEM name on it?

Then again I suppose you would also discount the fact that as others on these forums as well as other forums have stated - PC Power & Cooling can stand on their own reputation.

You probably would also label those who make such statements as being uniformed or possibly fan boi`s....

yet those of us who own one or even several have no complaints - why because a quality product is a quality product.

Doesn`t matter that people who do not own a PC Power & Cooling PSU would venture to say they are all hype. Then again knowldgeable people have statd they are a good product!

We don`t need to be quiet about this subject. we just don`t need to act foolish and fabricate stories or untruths to attempt to prove a moot point!!

In fact what this proves is that it is very possible for a company to put out a PSU that is not of the quality of other PSU`s that they might manufacture.

So all is good. We are at a cross road...som say only go with an OEM PSU and others will say it makes no differnce in the scheme of things!

You say potatoe...I say - potato......hehehee

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Kwint Sommer

Yeah, the 520 I've been using has been great. Per ryderOCZ's question: the efficiency ratings in the 60's and 70's are lower than this year's fare -- including the GameXStream 700. Somewhere, that unit tested pretty well in a review. Other "intel" I have from a friend in Albuquerque shows that THG "failed" the PowerStream 600 in a loading test.

I'm a lot pickier this year than I was two years ago, although a review of eight units by some web-site called "Tech Report" or "Tech Review" -- very rigorous testing -- put the PowerStream 520 at the head of the pack. They didn't have a PCP&C Turbo-Cool to review there -- they may even have mentioned it in passing. By contrast, Maximum PC put the PowerStream in a mid-range of its performance rankings, with the PCP&C on top -- although a two-page advertisement a few pages away from the Max PC comparison raises suspicions about implicit payola in advertising revenues.

Being a lot pickier has forestalled my "Conroe-build." It will be a very deliberate effort. Again, I will resurrect a ten-year-old computer case, this time, a Compaq ProLiant Server case -- a real monstrosity for its size. It almost seems as though I should simply buy a CoolerMaster Stacker, but I like the idea for extending the useful life of cyber-junk.

I'm going to start dremeling tomorrow on the Proliant box. Probably the first thing I order will be a PSU, to assess the need for pop-riveting any extra support for the PSU weight, or otherwise deciding whether to stick the PSU at the bottom of the case as opposed to the traditional location.

The ProLiant has a huge motherboard pan, with enough room to cut two slots for twin CoolerMaster Crossflow fans -- if one wanted to go to such an extreme. The original i486 motherboard was huge -- with an unbelievable number of EISA slots. I'm pretty sure that I will only need to drill one -- at most two-- holes to make the motherboard pan ATX compliant. I will have to customize an I/O plate, but that should only involve cutting a larger rectangle to fit the existing hole, and cutting a hole in that rectangle to fit the standard ATX I/O plate.