See Republicans, this is how Washington is supposed to work

Mxylplyx

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If both sides gets some, but certainly not all, of what they want, the extreme flanks of both parties are pissed off as always, but the moderates are happy, and America wins. This is how shit gets done in divided government as opposed to the constant hail mary passes Republicans lob that have no chance of becoming law. Hopefully the new Republican leadership wakes up and kicks these freedom caucus assholes to the curb by eliminating the Hastert rule so we can get back to governing in Washington.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/charles-schumer-paul-ryan-tax-infrastruture-moderate-214167
 

michal1980

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could have just as easily said 'See democrats this is how Washington is supposed to work'

Your bias is showing.
 

dank69

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could have just as easily said 'See democrats this is how Washington is supposed to work'

Your bias is showing.

Dems: We'll give you $10 of spending cuts for every $1 of tax increases.
GOP: No.

Yet another example of where the "BothSidesDoIt" bullshit doesn't fly.
 

michal1980

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Dems: We'll give you $10 of spending cuts for every $1 of tax increases.
GOP: No.

Yet another example of where the "BothSidesDoIt" bullshit doesn't fly.

did you read this story? Or are you just venturing off on strawmen building?
 

Mxylplyx

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Dems: We'll give you $10 of spending cuts for every $1 of tax increases.
GOP: No.

Yet another example of where the "BothSidesDoIt" bullshit doesn't fly.

Republicans: Obama, we demand to repeal the entirety of your signature healthcare law, even though we dont have the votes to do it ourselves

Obama: Umm, no.

Republicans: Ok, we'll meet you half way and just want to repeal the individual mandate, so the law will just collapse on itself.

Obama: Umm, no

Republicans: OBAMA WONT COMPROMISE!!!
 

michal1980

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Republicans: Obama, we demand to repeal the entirety of your signature healthcare law, even though we dont have the votes to do it ourselves

Obama: Umm, no.

Republicans: Ok, we'll meet you half way and just want to repeal the individual mandate, so the law will just collapse on itself.

Obama: Umm, no

Republicans: OBAMA WONT COMPROMISE!!!

oh goody you guys are building a starwman forest.
 

BurnItDwn

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Since about 20008 every single action by republicans seemed to be either some kind of obstructionist scam or playing politics with very little effort at all of trying to find the common ground, or putting the American people first. The democrats tend to be pretty full of shit, but they are not playing the same game.
 

dank69

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I'm sure it has, but i'm not going to waste time searching for it.

But if you need a refresher heres a link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man


Short version, I was talking about this article and the title of this thread. You brought up some other issue and attacked that.

IE you built a strawman.
So you admit you were talking out of your ass when you said it was explained to me. I didn't attack that other issue I brought up, dumbass. I brought up an example of Republicans refusing to compromise with Democrats when the Democrats were trying to compromise with Republicans. This example was supposed to illustrate to you how full of shit you are when you try to claim Democrats are as bad as Republicans when it comes to compromise. Unsurprisingly, the point was miles over your head, and undoubtedly still is.
 

michal1980

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So you admit you were talking out of your ass when you said it was explained to me. I didn't attack that other issue I brought up, dumbass. I brought up an example of Republicans refusing to compromise with Democrats when the Democrats were trying to compromise with Republicans. This example was supposed to illustrate to you how full of shit you are when you try to claim Democrats are as bad as Republicans when it comes to compromise. Unsurprisingly, the point was miles over your head, and undoubtedly still is.

so you brought up a different issue.

IE your built a strawman.

PS

my post said the below

could have just as easily said 'See democrats this is how Washington is supposed to work'

Your bias is showing.

Which was a direct response to OP post.

Did you bother read what the story was about? A democrat working with a republican,

Schumer working with Paul Ryan.

The same paul ryan you on the left hate.

IE the title of this thread could have just as easily said 'See democrats this is how Washington is supposed to work'.

But you are to dense to understand that fact.
 

dank69

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so you brought up a different issue.

IE your built a strawman.

PS

my post said the below
Bringing up a different issue is not the definition of straw man. It requires that I characterize the different issue as your argument, which I did not do.

IE your[sic] don't know what a straw man is or how to identify one.

PS

You're an idiot.

Which was a direct response to OP post.

Did you bother read what the story was about? A democrat working with a republican,

Schumer working with Paul Ryan.

The same paul ryan you on the left hate.

IE the title of this thread could have just as easily said 'See democrats this is how Washington is supposed to work'.

But you are to dense to understand that fact.
The problem is that you don't understand that Democrats have at least tried to work with Republicans on some issues during Obama's term.
 

michal1980

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Bringing up a different issue is not the definition of straw man. It requires that I characterize the different issue as your argument, which I did not do.

IE your[sic] don't know what a straw man is or how to identify one.

I was dealing with OPs title, you were dealing with some other issues



You're an idiot.
The problem is that you don't understand that Democrats have at least tried to work with Republicans on some issues during Obama's term.

tried, you mean like on Obamacare. They tried so hard they got zero votes.
 

dank69

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I was dealing with OPs title, you were dealing with some other issues



You're an idiot.


tried, you mean like on Obamacare. They tried so hard they got zero votes.
Obamacare is a great example. Democrats reached out to Republicans by starting with the Republicans' own plan. GOP replied fuck you and zero voted for their own plan because fuck Obama.