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Pliablemoose

Pliablemoose

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eits said:
can we please get back on topic? if you have any other questions, can you just pm me instead? this is getting ridiculous (as nick pointed out... you guys just follow me wherever i post and completely derail the thread for no purpose other than to cover-up the subject matter in the op and potential ensuing discussion).
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Because we see the basic moral ambiguity in your arguments and posts, you claim "big pharma" is a great evil and that many physicians collude with "big pharma" to dupe patients and cause them harm in the process. While you on the other hand derive your living from what many (dare I say most?) people consider to provide at best questionable therapy and at worst a stationary version of a traveling medicine show, bilking people out of their money and keeping many from seeking appropriate and efficacious medical treatment for their ailments that's proven by research and data.

Frankly, I see the health care industry in need of serious overhaul, but you ain't got the moral high ground here eits... and that's what makes me post in your threads.
 
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nick1985

nick1985

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I remember a kid on my high school football team brought a note from a chiropractor as his doctor's note to not have to practice.

Our coach rightfully laughed at him and threw him out onto the field.
 
nick1985

nick1985

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eits said:
right, point taken... anecdotal evidence works for things that are bogus as well. i understand that. however, the point i was making was that often times, anecdotal evidence may itself be true (especially if it makes sense physiologically), but does not warrant a conclusion. what it does do, however, is warrant more research.
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Anyone who believes in "reflexology" should be lined up against a wall and shot.
 
eits

eits

Lifer
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Pliablemoose said:
Because we see the basic moral ambiguity in your arguments and posts, you claim "big pharma" is a great evil and that many physicians collude with "big pharma" to dupe patients and cause them harm in the process. While you on the other hand derive your living from what many (dare I say most?) people consider to provide at best questionable therapy and at worst a stationary version of a traveling medicine show, bilking people out of their money and keeping many from seeking appropriate and efficacious medical treatment for their ailments that's proven by research and data.

Frankly, I see the health care industry in need of serious overhaul, but you ain't got the moral high ground here eits... and that's what makes me post in your threads.
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are you kidding me? did you even read the post? why are you inventing scenarios that aren't true whatsoever? is it so hard to let go of what you once thought that you need to distort things so they make sense in your mental construct?

i never said many physicians collude with big pharma to dupe patients and to harm them. i don't believe that physicians knowingly try to harm their patients at all. what i said was that big pharma tempts doctors into trusting their products enough to recommend them to their patients, even though the research may be fabricated or tampered with. also, you're right, the fda is a bad guy here, too... but they're mainly bad because of big pharma.

furthermore, i believe i completely dispelled your view that i'm at all treating patients with "questionable therapy" or that i'm a "traveling medicine show" or that i "bilk people out of their money". you can tout medicine all you want, but the fact of the matter is that the more you medicate, the less healthy we become. ask any doctor worth his salt and they'll say the same.
 
eits

eits

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nick1985 said:
Anyone who believes in "reflexology" should be lined up against a wall and shot.
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? ok? really? they really need to be shot? i don't believe in reflexology either, but that's a retarded statement.

either contribute to the discussion or run along and go watch a play or something.
 
nick1985

nick1985

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eits said:
? ok? really? they really need to be shot?
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Really, yes. They need to be shot for being so stupid.

firing_squad_2.jpg
 
eits

eits

Lifer
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nick1985 said:
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um, they were posted on the forums and were associated with a scam. if i put a picture of you in a thread and claimed you were a loser of below average intelligence, if i typed "loser of below average intelligence" in google images, i'd find your picture.

atot gets lots of hits and views. so, obviously, any picture of me that is posted in the forums where the word "chiropractic" and "scam" are mentioned, i should expect to find my picture.

by the way, thanks for increasing my google rank :)
 
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eits

eits

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cherrytwist said:
More proof that you're an idiot.
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um, no. it's just a fact. as opposed to getting patients healthy, most doctors would rather give them a script for something because it's too difficult to try and get patients to actually do the work on their own to become healthy.

do you honestly believe medications make people healthy? you don't think that medications, for the most part, manage symptoms of health problems? you really don't think that the best way to treat diseases is to not have them in the first place?

anyways, just go ask however many doctors you can whether overmedicating is healthy or not. see what they say.
 
Pliablemoose

Pliablemoose

Lifer
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Capt Caveman said:
I work in Pharma but trying to debate with eits is a waste of time.
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It's not eits I'm concerned about, if I can keep one person on the forums from going to a chiro, or taking a child for something that should be treated by a medical doc, it's worth it.
 
Gibsons

Gibsons

Lifer
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Pliablemoose said:
It's not eits I'm concerned about, if I can keep one person on the forums from going to a chiro, or taking a child for something that should be treated by a medical doc, it's worth it.
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eits himself has probably done more harm to the reputation of chiropractors than you or I ever could.
 
nick1985

nick1985

Lifer
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eits said:
cool, let's now assume this to be true.

can we please stay on topic (which has nothing to do with chiropractic care)?
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Surely you have noticed, with all of your "superior intellect", that any threads you make regarding the health care field are never on topic. EVER. Asking to stay on topic makes you look like a food.
 
alkemyst

alkemyst

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nick1985 said:
Other gems from the OP.

http://forums.anandtech.com/search.php?searchid=574333

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2060219&highlight=

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2058946&highlight=

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2056607

Notice how they end up locked. I wonder how long for this one...

It's like he doesn't get it. Every thread he makes regarding medicine turns into the same thing.
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It's not him getting those threads locked.

It's the TFNN chucklehut.
 
xanis

xanis

Lifer
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eits said:
um, no. it's just a fact. as opposed to getting patients healthy, most doctors would rather give them a script for something because it's too difficult to try and get patients to actually do the work on their own to become healthy.

do you honestly believe medications make people healthy? you don't think that medications, for the most part, manage symptoms of health problems? you really don't think that the best way to treat diseases is to not have them in the first place?

anyways, just go ask however many doctors you can whether overmedicating is healthy or not. see what they say.
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You know, I used to think, "Why is everyone ganging up on eits? He doesn't seem so bad..." Now I know. You're trying to tell me that certain medications don't make people healthy? Have you ever taken an antibiotic?

Also, yes, when I'm sick (with something more than a cold/flu), I WANT the doctors to prescribe me things to manage the symptoms. As far as I'm concerned, the less time I spend feeling terrible, the better.
 
nick1985

nick1985

Lifer
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alkemyst said:
It's not him getting those threads locked.

It's the TFNN chucklehut.
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No, its him and his ridiculous assertions. See the post right above this one for proof. The fact that people go to eits for any sort of treatment scares me. Might as well go see a shaman, at least then you would be entertained.
 
eits

eits

Lifer
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xanis said:
You know, I used to think, "Why is everyone ganging up on eits? He doesn't seem so bad..." Now I know. You're trying to tell me that certain medications don't make people healthy? Have you ever taken an antibiotic?

Also, yes, when I'm sick (with something more than a cold/flu), I WANT the doctors to prescribe me things to manage the symptoms. As far as I'm concerned, the less time I spend feeling terrible, the better.
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you're assuming i meant antibiotics... i didn't.

i agree with you, which is why it's my goal to eventually open a multidisciplinary practice with a medical dock and physical therapist on staff.
 
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