Secret US Senate report details CIA abuse (found to have misled congress)

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Oldgamer

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CIA repeatedly misled the US government over the severity and effectiveness of its interrogation methods, the Washington Post reports.

A long-awaited US Senate report said that the CIA used secret "black sites" to interrogate prisoners using techniques not previously acknowledged.

These included dunking suspects in icy water and smashing a prisoner's head against a wall.

The findings stem from the time of former President George W Bush.

Officials familiar with the secret document said that the CIA's interrogation programme yielded little useful intelligence.

They also said that this intelligence had then been exaggerated so that the interrogation programme looked more effective than it actually was.

Internal divisions

The report is the result of a wide-ranging investigation by the Senate intelligence committee into CIA activities which began in 2009.

The committee will meet on Thursday to decide on whether to send a summarised version to President Barack Obama for eventual public release.

Officials at the CIA's headquarters ordered officers to continue with harsh interrogations even after they were convinced that the prisoners had no more information to give, the Washington Post said.

One official said that almost all the valuable intelligence from al-Qaeda suspect Abu Zubaida was gained before he was waterboarded 83 times.

The report also spoke of divisions within the CIA in protest at the conditions prisoners were forced to endure.

A CIA spokesman told the Post the agency had not yet seen a final version of the report and so could not officially comment on its contents.

However, current and former officials told the paper privately that the 6,300 page study contained factual errors and misguided conclusions.

Earlier in March the head of the Senate intelligence committee accused the CIA of improperly accessing Senate computers during the investigation.

Senator Dianne Feinstein said that the alleged hacking "may have undermined the constitutional framework" of government oversight.

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Pretty much this:

Bottom line is now someone has to choose -- do they prosecute for lying to Congress, tampering with evidence, destroying evidence, war crimes, or crimes against humanity. If they don't prosecute the rule of law has no meaning and no other country is going to care what we say about how they treat anyone, including one of our own if they get captured
 

momeNt

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Since when is treating prisoners with civility more important than national security? If dunking someone in icy water keeps nukes out of this country. Dunk away.

Think of it like Bridge on the River Kwai where Alec Guinness pulls out the geneva convention and argues that officers need separate quarters and can't do manual labor. FUUUCK that, this is war. War is about winning, Americans win!

'Merka!
 

Oldgamer

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Business Insider has this report: Senate torture report, worse than anybody knew

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Quote: ..."prisoners were sometimes subjected to harsh interrogation techniques even when analysts were sure they had no more information to give, said the report.."

"Officials also said that millions of records show that the CIA's ability to obtain the most valuable intelligence information, including tips that led to the locating and killing of Osama bin Laden in 2011, had little, if anything, to do with "enhanced interrogation techniques.."
 

Texashiker

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If they don't prosecute the rule of law has no meaning and no other country is going to care what we say about how they treat anyone, including one of our own if they get captured

When it comes to the government the rule of law has no meaning.
 

blankslate

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But hey we hurt them enough that they said words that justified any and all actions we took in the ME.

It's all good... go back to watching 24hrs. see torture works!


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