Second hard drive not visible in Windows XP

[JohnnyBallGame]

New system build with Epox 9NPA motherboard, Athlon64 3000+, new Seagate 160gb ATA drive and older Maxtor 80gb ata drive.

The 2nd drive shows on boot up and in the bios setup menu, but is not visible once I start Windows XP. Any suggestions? Thanks!

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: JohnnyBallGame
New system build with Epox 9NPA motherboard, Athlon64 3000+, new Seagate 160gb ATA drive and older Maxtor 80gb ata drive.

The 2nd drive shows on boot up and in the bios setup menu, but is not visible once I start Windows XP. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Go into Disk Management and give it a drive letter.

 

[Ulukia]

Make sure the jumpers are correct on the HDs. I found CS (Cable Select) will not work half the time, at least when I use it with more than on drive, so make one Master and the other Slave.

 

[JohnnyBallGame]

I have the 2nd set as slave. I went into Disk Management, and it recognizes the drive, but all options except "delete partition" are greyed out. Thanks for the input so far. Keep it coming! Thanks,

John

 

[Ulukia]

Is there anything on the new drive? If not, delete the partition. Go into WinXP>Administrative Tools>Computer Management>Storage>Disk Management
Create a new partition(s) on the HD. This way its compatible.

 

[cheapherk]

1. Go to the Control Panel (switch to "classic View if it's not).
2. Click on Administration Tools.
3. On the left, under "Storage", highlight Disk Management. Now you should see your unpartioned drive.
4. Right click on the name of the drive, then select Format.

 

[Ulukia]

Thats basically what I said.
He mentioned that Disk Management states "Delete partition" which means there is a partition there, just not one WinXP recognizes. So he will have to delete it to create a new one. Disk Management cannot convert the partition unless its FAT(16/32). Either case, it would be better to delete and recreate.

 

[JohnnyBallGame]

Yeah, there is a partition on it (NTFS). It was the main drive in my old machine, so it has an XP on it also. Why wouldn't windows recognize it? I'd like to save a few things from it before I reformat it. Any suggestions? Thanks!

'ballgame

 

[kristof007]

You could maybe take it out and connect via and external enclosure or one of my friends have and IDE to USB 2.0 port but I have no idea where you can get that. That's all I can think of

 

[Ulukia]

SO it appears the NTFS partition is damaged. I would use Partition Magic to repair the partition, or convert it to FAT31 and back to NTFS.

 

[birdpup]

Originally posted by: Ulukia
Make sure the jumpers are correct on the HDs. I found CS (Cable Select) will not work half the time, at least when I use it with more than on drive, so make one Master and the other Slave.

Originally posted by: JohnnyBallGame
I have the 2nd set as slave. I went into Disk Management, and it recognizes the drive, but all options except "delete partition" are greyed out.

What is the jumper setting on the first hard drive?
Is the second hard drive on the same cable as the first hard drive?

 

[Farmer]

If it has an XP install on it, you can refomat the drive (NTFS) under the XP CD Repair Console.

 

[kristof007]

Yea but reformatting it would delete all his data. He wants to get stuff of it first .. right ?

 

[JohnnyBallGame]

I've got the working drive set as master, the one I can't view set as slave. Both on the same cable. I'd like to save some data on it, so reformatting is my last option at the moment. I'll try using partition magic to repair. Thanks!

 

[JohnnyBallGame]

I tried partition magic, but it won't initialize. It says something to the effect of "drive 1 has disk manager installed but is not running". Then it sends me back to the DOS prompt. Anymore ideas?

 

[JohnnyBallGame]

Sorry, double post.

 

[Ulukia]

Set that drive as Master. Unhook the old drive. Put in the WinXP disk and boot it up. Follow the directions below to do a repair installation.
http://helpdesk.its.uiowa.edu/windows/instructions/repairinstall.htm
Just an idea. I'll keep thinking.

 

[stevty2889]

I would temporarily discconect the CD-ROm and put it as the secondary master to see if it will see it.

 

[superfly27]

Duh, might be a dumb suggestion. But can't you just disconnect the first drive like one other guy said here and use a CD burner or DVD burner to save all your files? Then you could hook up the other one again and format the secondary one.

 

[Underclocked]

http://www.ubcd4win.com/ Suggest you build one of these anyway, everyone should have one laying around. Boot to the cd, programs, file management, A43 .....

If it sees it, you can move files needed over to the new drive... if not you still have a very useful disc available for future problems.

Hmm, wonder if you set the old drive to master then boot to your XP disc and recovery via console, run fixboot - or would it be fixmbr?- ....then set the new drive back to master and boot up (I've not done this) would not fixboot remove any disk manager?

One more thought,- get BootIt NG and makedisk (same site), create the bootable media, and see what that can do for you. I'm reaching here....

 

[JohnnyBallGame]

Superfly 27 -
I'll try it. I had so many problems when my old PC crashed that I hadn't even considered this (I just figured I could slap it in and copy files from it).

Underclocked -
Thanks. I'll check it out.

All,
Thanks for the suggestions. Something that I forgot to mention in my last post - Partition Magic 8.0 lists the unusable drive as having a GoBack partition which is using all of the allocatable space. Is GoBack the problem? Is there a way around it? I was going to install it again to see if it proved helpful, but if it causes this kind of trouble I don't think I want it. Thanks!

John

 

[RBBRMADE]

--- edit --- Below is good information, but I just realized you are using NTFS, which linux does not like. If you are networked, you can still use knoppix to send those files to another machine easily, but not write to those NTFS drives. --- edit --


If you boot to knoppix using a knoppix CD, you will be able to copy all the stuff over quite easily.
I just had this same scenario (except the old drive was Win98), and knoppix was the only way I could get to the data.
www.knoppix.org
DL the ***-EN.iso and burn the image to CD. Boot from that CD.
This direct link may work:
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/dist/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.6-2004-08-16-EN.iso">ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/dist/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.6-2004-08-16-EN.iso</a>


Don't freak out about linux for this task. This is easy stuff.
When knoppix starts, you should see your two HDDs on the desktop. I think you right click on each, got to 'action' and 'change read/write' state', or something very similar. Click on the folders, and there is your data. Drag and drop!
If you get the CD made, and boot to it and still cannot get to your files, post back. Someone here can help pronto!

Ron

 

[JohnnyBallGame]

RBBRMADE -

Could I use partition magic to make a 2nd small partition of my working drive, then format it as fat32 and use knoppix?

 

[RBBRMADE]

Originally posted by: JohnnyBallGame
RBBRMADE -

Could I use partition magic to make a 2nd small partition of my working drive, then format it as fat32 and use knoppix?

I have never tried that, but it should work.....
Let us know!

Ron

 

[Ulukia]

Why not use ERDCommander instead of Knoppix?