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Tim

And keep your recruits away from 14 year old females.
(serious reply)

The kid did something stupid, and he's going to pay heavily for it on every front. The fact that LSU was recruiting him has nothing to do with what he did. Those were his actions. LSU is a classy program, and I can tell you that after his, he will NOT be wearing the purple and gold. Bledat
 

Gibsons

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Huh, the computers think otherwise
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc10.htm

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 CONFERENCE          CENTRAL MEAN    SIMPLE AVERAGE  TEAMS      WIN50%

   1  PAC-10              (A) =  80.87      81.43  (  1)     10      81.14  (  1)
   2  SOUTHEASTERN        (A) =  79.84      79.56  (  2)     12      79.72  (  2)
   3  BIG 12              (A) =  75.42      75.64  (  3)     12      75.66  (  3)
   4  ATLANTIC COAST      (A) =  74.32      74.18  (  6)     12      74.20  (  6)
   5  BIG TEN             (A) =  74.18      74.72  (  4)     11      74.52  (  4)
Sagarin's ratings have 5 SEC teams in the top 20, vs. 2 Pac 10. The Pac 10 has a strong bottom half, so they come slightly ahead on the overall. Basically on the principle that Vanderbilt is worse than Washington State.

Oregon played, what, one close game all year? They pretty much dominated the conference from start to finish. I don't see how you can argue that the Pac 10 is really that great if only one team could stay within ten points of them.
 

preslove

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The talent level of the SEC dwarfs the other conferences. More 4 and 5 star recruits go to the SEC than all the other conferences by a pretty wide margin, and the same goes for SEC players going on to the pros. Each year, a couple SEC schools have the right mix of talented upperclassmen and coaching to really click and get going. This year it was Auburn and Alabama. Last year Alabama and Florida. For the last 5 years a clicking SEC team has won the national championship.

There are shitty and mediocre teams each year, sure. Vandy and Kentucky, and Ole Miss usually suck (though both had a couple good years recently) and then some teams go through a couple rebuilding years after a bunch of talent or a coach leaves, but they usually return to a high level.

How can you not see the last 5 years as other than total dominance? 5 straight years, 4 different teams.
 

pcgeek11

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National poll championships by conference membership at the time (1936–present)

SEC 1933–present 19
Alabama (8), Florida (3), LSU (3), Auburn (2), Tennessee (2), Georgia (1)

Independents 1869–present 18
Notre Dame (8), Miami (3), Army (2), Pittsburgh (2), Penn State (2), Syracuse (1)

Big Ten 1896–present 13
Ohio State (5), Minnesota (4), Michigan (2), Michigan State (2)

Big Eight 1907–1951 11
Oklahoma (6), Nebraska (4), Colorado (1)

Pac-10 1959–present 9
USC (7), Washington (1), UCLA (1)

ACC 1953–present 5
Florida State (2), Georgia Tech (1), Clemson (1), Maryland (1)

SWC 1914–1952 5
Texas (3), Texas A&M (1), TCU (1)

Big 12 1996–present 3
Oklahoma (1), Nebraska (1), Texas (1)

Big East 1991–present 2
Miami (2)

WAC 1962–present 1
BYU (1)

National poll championships by current conference membership (1936–present)

SEC: 19
Alabama (8), Florida (3), LSU (3), Tennessee (2), Auburn (2), Georgia (1)

Big 12: 18
Oklahoma (7), Nebraska (5), Texas (4), Colorado (1), Texas A&M (1)

Big Ten: 15
Ohio State (5), Minnesota (4), Michigan (2), Michigan State (2), Penn State (2)

ACC: 10
Miami (5), Florida State (2), Georgia Tech (1), Clemson (1), Maryland (1)

Independents: 10
Notre Dame (8), Army (2)

Pac-10: 9
USC (7), Washington (1), UCLA (1)

Big East: 3
Pittsburgh (2), Syracuse (1)

Mountain West: 2
TCU (1), BYU (1)
 

rcpratt

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National poll championships by current conference membership (1936–present)

SEC: 19
Alabama (8), Florida (3), LSU (3), Tennessee (2), Auburn (2), Georgia (1)

Big 12: 18
Oklahoma (7), Nebraska (5), Texas (4), Colorado (1), Texas A&M (1)

Big Ten: 15
Ohio State (5), Minnesota (4), Michigan (2), Michigan State (2), Penn State (2)
Nebraska should be with the Big Ten now, which means we win lawlalwlawlawl.
 

pcgeek11

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Nebraska should be with the Big Ten now, which means we win lawlalwlawlawl.

Funny. For 2010 I don;t see them listed:

2010 BIG TEN STANDINGS

Ohio State
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Iowa
Illinois
Penn State
Michigan
Northwestern
Purdue
Minnesota
Indiana
 

rcpratt

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The point is to place the team where they were when they won the title. For example, see: Miami.
The point of the one that said "titles by CURRENT conference membership" is, um, not to show where they were when they won the title. That's the point of the one above.

For example, see...Miami.
 

CallMeJoe

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The point of the one that said "titles by CURRENT conference membership" is, um, not to show where they were when they won the title. That's the point of the one above.
For example, see...Miami.

By current membership, Nebraska is still Big 12. Check your NCAA basketball conference schedule.
 

rcpratt

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By current membership, Nebraska is still Big 12. Check your NCAA basketball conference schedule.
This isn't about basketball. The next conference football Nebraska plays will be of the B1G variety.

But anyways, technicalities aren't really the point. Actually, there really wasn't a point, because total national championships is a pretty poor way to measure conference strength, especially when we're talking about ones that weren't even won while in that conference.
 

Ackmed

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The 49 SEC players taken in this year's NFL draft were the most ever for the conference in the modern era. The previous high was 47 in 2002.

Back in the 1950s, the draft consisted of 30 rounds.

The SEC's 49 selections were 15 more than the next conference. The Big Ten had 34, the ACC had 31, the Big 12 had 30 and the Pac-10 had 29.

The SEC also ruled this year's draft in terms of premium selections, producing 23 players taken in the first three rounds. That was eight more than the Pac-10, which had 15 players go in the first three rounds.

The SEC has now led or tied for the most selections in the NFL draft for 11 of the last 13 seasons and for the last four drafts.

Since 1990, the SEC has had 782 total selections in the NFL draft, an average of 37.2 selections per year. The Big Ten is second with 672 selections.

Florida finished the draft with a nation's-best nine players selected, including a school-record six players taken in the first two rounds.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/10429/noting-the-sec-and-the-nfl-draft

Once again, shows the SEC is the best conference. Not only while playing college ball, but also by having more players chosen in the draft. Its not even close.

Fact: SEC is the best college conference, get over it.
 

Zargon

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By current membership, Nebraska is still Big 12. Check your NCAA basketball conference schedule.

sorry dude, Nebraska Football is BIG TEN now.

when basketball seasons is over, they will switch too

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/10429/noting-the-sec-and-the-nfl-draft

Once again, shows the SEC is the best conference. Not only while playing college ball, but also by having more players chosen in the draft. Its not even close.

Fact: SEC is the best college conference, get over it.

in football. what about the other major college sport?(basketball)

Also, it was already shown in another thread that the Big Ten dominates in actual academics :)
 
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Tim

Not if you're an alum you dumb twit.

I feel sorry for guys like you... and go fuck yourself too ;)

And I feel sorry for morons like you who argue an incorrect point of view over and over. I really don't care that you think it's improper to use "we" when refering to a sports team. Your just mouthing off an opinion (still incorrect) and we all know that opinions are like assholes.
 
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Oil

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For football, sure. Since more of us get degrees from these schools than play football at them, how 'bout those SEC academics?

I graduated from LSU and I still wouldn't recommend going to an SEC school for anything other than engineering and (maybe) business
 

preslove

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sorry dude, Nebraska Football is BIG TEN now.

when basketball seasons is over, they will switch too



in football. what about the other major college sport?(basketball)

Also, it was already shown in another thread that the Big Ten dominates in actual academics :)

The Ivy League dominates the Big Ten in actual academics...

This thread is about football, not academics or Basketball.

The SEC has been the dominant football conference for the past several years and there is no reason to think that this won't continue for the years to come. Hell, we might as well just replace the National Championship with the SEC championship.